would it be obnoxious to ask for a chancing?

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<p>White Male
Private School in NC
I am currently a junior
Freshman GPA: 4.11 took some honors classes
Sophmore GPA: 4.16-Took AP Stats and various Honors classes
Junior GPA (Sem.1): 4.66</p>

<p>Jr. Year Schedule: AP US History, Hnrs. Spanish IV, AP Chemistry, Hnrs. Precal, Hnrs. English III(taking AP Language exam through the class), and Honors Green Campus Initiative (application required class that basically is moving the school towards a more environmentally sound operating system)</p>

<p>Senior Schedule: AP Euro, AP Spanish, Hnrs. Physics, AP Calc BC, AP English, AP Gov/Pilates/Creative Writing (dont know yet), and a study hall</p>

<p>PSAT: 219 Selection Index (Possible National Merit)
SAT I: Math: 700 CR: 680 W:740
Taking SAT II's in May</p>

<p>Awards/Societies Etc.: NHS, Mu Alpha Theta, Cum Laude, Spanish Honors Society, Honor Roll, Junior Marshal, All-State Wrestling, </p>

<p>Extracurriculars: Tutor Hispanic children 3 days/week, Do research/shadow at Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center, Volunteer/Entertain sick children w/magic tricks on weekends,steady job, 2x State qualifier in Wrestling (#2 seed this year), Freestyle/Greco-Roman State champion, Member of NC Jr.Nat'l Freestyle/Greco team and competed at Jr. Nat'ls, Member of NC East Coast Dual and Disney Duals Team, Recycling Manager for school, Founder/Pres. of Film Club/Actors Guild, Member of Democratic Student Union, Member of Celebrate Diversity Club, Class Secretary Freshman year, had works published in school publication</p>

<p>Summer Plans: Jr. Nat'ls in Fargo for wrestling again, Month in Argentina with an Argentinian host family through an immersion program, working, more tutoring</p>

<p>Just wondering if anyone had a clue what my chances would be at Columbia, I was smitten with the campus on my first visit and was wondering if I had what it takes to be an Ivy leaguer</p>

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<p>yes</p>

<p>oh, and i didn’t read beyond the title</p>

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<p>On the “obnoxious scale,” I’d say your comments outweight his chances thread by tenfold.</p>

<p>OP: You have almost a year left to go, I recommend retaking the SAT’s at least once more. (Don’t let Columbia’s low average SAT score fool you. Princeton’s average SAT score is 2220, yet ~75% of people with ~2330’s are rejected; just using Princeton as an example, since Columbia doesn’t provide detailed admissions statistics analyses.) Since you got 219 on the PSAT, you obviously have more potential than your 2120 has demonstrated. If the math is what’s irking you, I recommend using Rocket Review. (It got my math from 590 to 760 in two weeks, using BB tests as diagnoses.) In terms of extracurriculars, I’m not really qualified to assess what you’ve done; just make good use of your summer and try to accomplish something meaningful.</p>

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<p>how is he obnoxious? this is just like any other chance thread on the site. and i’d say your chances are okay but it’s better if you can bring up that GPA and SAT</p>

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<p>class rank?
fresh and soph grades are a little lackluster, so try to get near-perfect grades junior an senior year
retake the SAT, or maybe try the ACT.
very good EC’s – keep up the good work
good luck. you’ve got a year still. The second half of junior and first half of senior year was the most prolific time for me as far as getting honors and awards. So stay busy and put off the sleep until this time next year.</p>

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<p>the school i am at does not rank numerically however i do know that i am in the top 5% out of about 110 students if that helps</p>

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<p>Don’t worry much about your “chances” until your senior year. Not to say that you should slack off now, but yes, colleges can wait for now. You seem to be an able student, just try and maintain that.</p>

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<p>That’s kind of the “everyone’s special in his own special way” theorem. And when applied practically, this theorem does not in fact prove very valid. Yes, you can just “do your best,” not worry, and live in Happynoworrycomplacentmediocrityland for a year. However, when you apply the aforementioned theorem, elite colleges will not necessarily see you for your own special self. You can remain complacent about the extremely high standards of the Ivy League and hope they’ll accept you for who you are, yet you can’t change those high standards. You can only change yourself, because Columbia and its 9 (?) billion dollar endowment don’t really need you as much as you need Columbia. </p>

<p>Remain conscious of Columbia’s standards, and maybe you’ll decide to study for that Biology test which you could easily get a 95 on without studying, but which you would ace if you decided to study. Apply the “you’re not actually that special” theorem, while keeping in mind the demanding standards of Columbia, to every test you take, most importantly the SAT, and maybe you might just get in. </p>

<p>Or, you can sit in front of the TV and think about how special you are.</p>

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<p>What the hell? </p>

<p>How are the OP’s GPAs “lackluster”?</p>

<p>“and i’d say your chances are okay but it’s better if you can bring up that GPA”</p>

<p>Lol, because a 4.66 Junior year is so bad.</p>

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<p>It’s not bad, but it’s not that impressive either. He’s probably getting 10 pts. for honors classes and 12 for AP, and considering he’s all AP or honors classes, his 4.67W is probably only around a 3.6UW, which is a 91.</p>

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<p>Ha, people actually get that many points for labeled courses?
That’s outrageous!</p>

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<p>Yeah, but how is that true for every school? 12 points for an AP? I’ve never even heard of that… It’s ignorant to think that’s the norm everywhere.</p>

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<p>I have read that most ad coms use their own scale of 93 and above for A so if that is true then- they do however like reporting the “juiced” up gpa’s on their stats. Also it is quite a feat for the OP to have accomplished so much while maintaining grades. I wonder if he will be a recruited athelete? </p>

<p>I haven’t heard of 12 points for an ap but I have heard of 1 on a 4 pt. and 3 on a 11 pt. scale. I think most would use the 1 for a 4.00 scale but that really only matters for rank. Like I said- they have to refigure the gpa, then match it up with corresponding SAT II’s and AP’s. That gives credence to your grades. If you get a stellar grade in an AP then a low AP/SAT II test score then they would be left to wonder about the true value of the grade. IMO of course.</p>

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<p>Weighting at my HS:
“Regents level” classes: 1.00 x avg.
Honors level classes: 1.05 x avg.
College level* classes: 1.10 x avg.
AP level classes: 1.15 x avg.</p>

<p>Sooo, if you get a 100 avg. in AP Anything you can end up with a weighted average of 115… but that doesn’t happen, because you’re lucky to pull 90’s in most AP classes after Euro. </p>

<p>(This was just a for-the-record kinda response due to the outrage at a potential 12 points for AP)</p>

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<p>I think a 10% weight for AP/IB classes is reasonable, and anything beyond that is ridiculous. Any GPA over 4.4 is the result of grade inflation. (Not to knock the OP, it sounds like you do really in school. My problem is with the system your school uses, not you.) I also prefer weighting done as a percentage because it rewards those who do the best. I hate curves for the same reason. (Those who do the worst are given the biggest reward, while those who do the best recieve almost no benefit.)</p>

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<p>youre gonna have to pull up SAT to at least the high 1400s or 1500, or 33+ ACT, but you have a while. great job! hey, im in Cum Laude too!!!</p>

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<p>“would it be obnoxious to ask for a chancing?”
Is that a rhetorical question?</p>