@coolweather - no, since you can self-report the scores can just go in as part of the ap. itself. Check the Yale admissions page because they will allow Nov. scores to be submitted (you can probably just report those via the portal but check the admissions page for guidance).
“Send both. Sending one is not following instructions and it looks like you are hiding something. A 710 in USH is not going to be the reason you get rejected.”
Did we miss something? Yale currently doesn’t specify how many subject scores to send.
You are right. Two scores used to be the recommended number, but it looks like there is no set number now. However, I still would still recommend sending both scores rather than 1.
@BKSquared oh okay thanks! I’ll submit the two right now, and update my score in November if I do better. @coolweather anyone can take November tests and report through the Yale Portal
@BKsquared - thank you - you have confirmed what I thought I had read before the current application cycle! It DID used to be 2. I think most will submit two out of habit anyway.
@coolweather, the November option was a potential option for my son because his test center closed for the one and only set of subject tests he was scheduled for in Aug. Then his Make-up testing date was scheduled for a weekend with a hard conflict. It was October or bust and I was worried that something could happen then too. That’s when I thought I had read that the Nov. was allowed. Here’s the footnote:
“*SATs and SAT Subject Tests taken in November may also arrive in time for consideration in Yale’s Single Choice Early Action program, but applicants should complete and submit Yale’s required standardized testing from previous test dates. For Single-Choice Early Action applicants who plan to take November SATs or SAT Subject Tests, admissions officers will begin the evaluation process with the official or self-reported scores already on file.”
The page pretty clearly states that the deadline is in October so probably not a good idea to use November as an option unless you really need to. However, it was a relief for us to know that it was available as a fall-back. The reason I mentioned it in my previous post and advised to ‘check the website’ was that I couldn’t exactly remember if there were exceptions attached to that date.
^ Have no clue. The November loophole sounds more like an exception than the rule. The rule seems to be October. You’ll need to trade off the “tardiness” factor against the perceived increase in score (or the ability to include a score in the first place). In my son’s case he would have called Admissions to give them a head’s up first.
And I think self-report can be done via “Update Application” link/button. But it could be a risk for students who have not taken any ACT/SAT before November.
The kid clicked the submit button on the Yale application last night just before bedtime. I have to admit that there were some things that I wish he could have found a way to express in his application, stories about himself and that story about our family’s odd history with Yale. But it’s not MY application it’s HIS application and I’m proud of what he did.
So now it’s all over but the waiting. Good luck to you all.
On the current topic of the thread, my son never took the subject tests. He’s developed a loathing for standardized tests in general (though he usually scores pretty well). We went to a presentation by admissions officers from Yale, Harvard, UVA, Princeton and Wellesley and a young man asked specifically about subject tests, whether ‘recommended’ really meant ‘required’. The lady from Harvard said that it did, unless you had a very good explanation for not taking the test. The guys from Yale and Princeton both said that having a strong subject test result was a positive point to your application, but not having subject test scores was not a negative (if that makes any sense). They said that they read applications looking for reasons to admit you. Any strong subject test score could be a reason to admit you, to be weighed against other kids with similar backgrounds and strengths.
My kid decided that he has other strengths that he would prefer to spend time on developing rather than relearning things that he’s done with for a set of subject test scores. I admit (in this forum that he doesn’t read) that I have some misgivings about his plan.
But again, it’s his life and his decision and I honor him for knowing his own mind.
@ninakatarina that’s an interesting view of it, and I kind of agree. to me it seems AOs are deliberately vague about subject tests. I just don’t see how it could truly be that important, but your point about it being one strength in your favor if you’re being compared to another applicant does make sense. ah! so nerve wracking. congrats to your son for submitting! that must have been such a surreal moment
Now the only things still in the way are the CSS profile and teacher recommendations. :Last year’s English teacher was going to be one of the recommenders, but he left the school system with no forwarding address. So kiddo is scrambling to get on other teachers’ recommendation dockets and trying not to let them know that they were the third choice.
hey everyone! it feels super weird to be part of this discussion and to be a senior… wild. i just had my on-campus interview about an hour ago and it was honestly a lot of fun. i hope everyone’s college admissions processes are going well, and good luck to all of you
Hi everyone! I’ve been reading the Yale SCEA forums since last year and now it’s finally my turn to apply but to be honest I’m very nervous. Yale is my dream school, however my standardized test scores aren’t the best and I didn’t really have the opportunity/money to do many extracurriculars but I’m top 5% of my class with a 4.0, yet I am just so scared. I don’t know if I would consider myself a hook student, I am a minority, immigrant, and first-gen student and I was selected as a QB College Prep Scholar and QB National College Match finalist (although I didn’t rank colleges because I wanted to apply to Yale SCEA with the QB app because I felt my chances were better that way). Even so, my chances aren’t too great because I am not as outstanding as other people who are applying, so at this point I am prepared for the worst but hoping for the best. I advise others who feel the same way to do the same and just remain positive, remember that an acceptance/rejection to a college does not define who you are as a person and does not determine your ability or future success. I tried my best and if I’m not what Yale is looking for this year, then so be it.
Also, 50 more days until decisions are out!! (Or I hope so, at least, I called the admissions office and there was an automated message saying Dec 15th at 5 pm eastern time but I’ve heard they usually do it on the Thursday of that week.) Good luck to all!!!
Does anyone know if we need to have the CSS in by the EA deadline in order to be considered for EA? I think we’ll have everything else submitted from teacher reqs to school reports, but I don’t have the money to send in the CSS until my paycheck deposits on Friday.
My kid never took the subject tests so he’s not submitting any of those. He took some APs. I think I wrote up thread about our visit to the information session with Yale, Wellesley, Princeton, UVA and (ptui) Harvard. A student asked about subject tests and whether ‘recommended’ meant ‘take them or have a damned good reason not to’. Harvard said that she did have that policy. Yale and Princeton said that having good subject tests was a plus on your application, but not having them was not a minus. Since my kid loathes standardized tests we were very happy to hear that.
good luck to you!!