<p>"hey man this is the yale forum"</p>
<p>i hope you were addressing netshark in that one. and you applied to harvard.</p>
<p>The implications of this are obvious:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.org%5B/url%5D">www.gradeinflation.org</a> :)</p>
<p>The Harvard envy at Yale is simply that many more kids at Yale were rejected from Harvard than vice versa. So they are angry, even if they weren;t going to go there anyway. Harvrad rejects a lot of talented east coast suburban kids to get geographic diversity, Yale is happy to get them. Harvard wants to get the elites from every state, in the hopes one of them will be a President. I guess their strategy has backfired. Since JFK, not a single national candidate has gone to Harvrad.</p>
<p>Don't forget Al Bore (Harvard '68), whose roomate was the great actor Tommy Lee Jones!</p>
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<p>Al Gore, you mean? I thought he was in the class of '69. I'm not sure I agree with you, mensa160. HYP gets a lot of overlap candidates; I'm not sure that a Harvard reject would fare much better at Yale or Princeton.</p>
<p>Harvard, of course, has always won the great majority of common admits.</p>
<p>But if H wins 65% of the common admits, isn't it likely that most kids would rather go there, so that many are at Yale because they didn't get into H.</p>
<p>Harvard gets more than 65% of common admits.</p>
<p>This is primarily why the Harvard yield rate is so much higher.</p>
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<p>The NBER study says that Harvard is likely to win 58.5% of common admits with Yale. (It would win 50% on a coin toss.) So they are pretty close in that regard.</p>
<p>"The Harvard envy at Yale is simply that many more kids at Yale were rejected from Harvard than vice versa. So they are angry, even if they weren;t going to go there anyway."</p>
<p>I don't think you'll find that the Yale kids are angry. The rivalry is simply an expression of school spirit - a bonding broght together by a common "foe" that most Yalies don't take seriously. A lot of these kids have good friends at Harvard, and they enjoy the goading and teasing. It's just for show, much like the USC/UCLA rivalry, and the Cal/Stanford rivalry in California. These traditions are very old, and I think, lessening a bit now that getting into all of these schools has become an accomplishment in itself. The students I've come across who have been accepted into Y (or H,S,P, or even Cal) feel very happy/relieved to be there...not angry.</p>
<p>I see your point. Harvard has become a cliche people use for the best school, like saying something is the "Rolls Royce"of whatever even though everyone knows Mercedes are better cars. Harvard's much vaunted edge on cross admits between Yale and Princeton is based almost totally on cross admits of kids from the midwest and moutain states. It's dead even for students on the more college-savvy coastal states. In fact, I think yale and Prinseton now have the edge over H among the saviest students. Still, if I had any chance, I'd pick Harvard because the vast majority of people think your a genius if you go there. I like that!</p>
<p>Tsk tsk, mensa. Basing an important decision like where to spend the next four years of your life merely on prestige can't be a good idea. I'm not saying you won't have a great time at Harvard, but prestige shouldn't be the deciding factor. Ahh it's been said. Go to Harvard. I'm done.</p>
<p>P.S. I'm just joking about the "tsk tsk" part. I'm not that condescending in real life. :)</p>
<p>Harvard generally wins 3/4 of the common admits from its leading competitors - Stanford, Yale, Princeton and MIT.</p>
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<p>Yeah, Havrad has struck out, but Harvard has done rather better: Al Gore has been mentioned, plus George W. Bush is a Harvard grad. He earned his MBA there.</p>
<p>lol I like how you try to put a spin on mensa's typo, but in the process of doing so, make a typo out of the typo. good job, coureur. now, which one of you looks dumber for accidentally pressing the little buttons with letters on them in the wrong order? ;)</p>
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<p>The NBER study says that Harvard is likely to win 58.5% of common admits with Yale. (It would win 50% on a coin toss.) So HY are pretty close in that regard. H does win 75% over Pr.I'll take yer word on St and MIT. Seems plausible.Harvard's much vaunted edge on cross admits between Yale and Princeton is based almost totally on cross admits of kids from the midwest and moutain states. It's dead even for students on the more college-savvy coastal states. </p>
<p>coureur -- it's declasse to point out typos on internet chat brds.</p>
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<p>Sorry. The point was not the typo (Lord knows I make my share of them). That was just a little joke. The point was that, I'm sorry to say, George W. Bush is a Harvard alumnus.</p>
<p>You misread the Revealed Preference study by Hoxby, et als, and fail to remember that it is, after all, a limited sample of students at 100 schools nationally in a particular year, and does not pretend to be 100% accurate as between any two schools. The Harvard/Yale cross-admit data is well known, and the rough but persistant 4 out of 5 edge for Harvard has been acknowledged - at least obliquely - in publications at both schools.</p>
<p>For whatever reason, Harvard has usually enjoyed a larger edge over Yale than over Stanford or Princeton in most years, and has had its tightest battle with MIT for a common-admit pool heavy on science/math students.</p>
<p>Your other assertions Mensa160, are, based on what I know, total fantasy.</p>
<p>Particularly THIS one: "Harvard's much vaunted edge on cross admits between Yale and Princeton is based almost totally on cross admits of kids from the midwest and moutain states. It's dead even for students on the more college-savvy coastal states." LOL! Where'd you get THAT one! In any event, even if true (which its not) its an odd, peevish sort of rationalization!</p>
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Dude, check out Table 3 on p24 of the study, and do the math. If you get a different number from me, explain my "mistake."</p>