<p>"Every year there is one senior that gets screwed by the deadlines because the GC decides not to send in the applications until its too late."</p>
<p>that sucks</p>
<p>that was my situation. My GC told me that i wouldn't get in anywhere with my 3.2 G.P.A....i actually got into the universities where i wanted to attend (cal state LB and SLO....yea....u guys are prolly saying "It's freakin Cal state...anyone gets in"...but trust me, they are decent). She overlooked everything else on my transcript...cuz course selection really matters and that's what helped me. So yea, your GC's are not always right.</p>
<p>Sophia - that's terrible. I can't believe that a California g.c. would have told you that, knowing full well that a B average is all that is required for a CSU. I can see public school g.c.'s being ill-informed about out-of-state and private options -- after all, the vast majority of students attending public schools who go on to college will go on to public universities. But I don't understand how the GC would be ignorant of the basic premise of the tiered California college system: top students to the UC's, the top 1/3 to CSU's (with automatic admission to based on a 3.0 average), cc's open to all. So to tell a Californa kid with a 3.2 GPA that she can't get into college is outright fraud.</p>
<p>TMWZ
Check out the Baylor merit aid, they give quite a bit of $$ for kids with decent SATs (read 1200+) and good class rank.</p>
<p>My D got in there, but did not end up choosing Baylor, due to something she needed which they do not ahve, but if not for that one details, it coulda been a great place to be!</p>
<p>Dang, good money for 1200+. I took the SAT this year, as a sophomore, and I scored an 1800, but I'm assuming you mean the old one obviously. My math and verbal without writing added up to more than 1200, not sure exactly what it was, I've forgotten.</p>
<p>I should research Baylor more extensively, but it really sounds like the right college for me. I saw a picture of their student health/athletic center and it is amazing. The pool was immaculate and they have excersize equipment like a resort would.</p>
<p>Do any of you helpful people know if they require first year living on campus. I'm not sure if I'm against that, but I'm not exactly for it. I suppose it depends on what kind of roommate I end up with. I'd like to have the option to live at home to lower the stress so I can focus on school work.</p>
<p>There are not many schools that I really advocate AGAINST, but Baylor is one of them. The school censors the content of what professors can teach. My opinion is that the bad aspects of the Baptist roots remain and the good do not. I would not pay the tuition for my kids to attend Baylor- not that they would have even considered it. Oh-and against the background of all the Bible-thumping we have the basketball player murder by another player a couple of years ago which revealed the coach's dishonesty.</p>
<p>MWC:
Maybe some conservative families would prefer the content at Baylor? Or maybe some liberal families would enjoy the opportunity to learn what those conservatives are thinking.</p>
<p>MY D did get into Baylor with $ and we considered it and we did therefore research the various scandals, etc., and through research, felt she would be fine there. That being said, I am not from TX and have no up close experience, but the $$ and the early acceptance were sure nice, as was all the follow up email and phone call attention received. It seems like they have had some issues and controversies, but are working hard to improve. That's my $0.02 worth. It would require a visit there to be sure!</p>
<p>The censorship is common knowledge, which makes the issue of any positives moot as far as I'm concerned. I am in Texas, and while many kids do choose to go to Baylor for convenience and ease of entry, it is not particularly well regarded.</p>
<p>Censorship would be the clincher for me and my D as well. Where does that stop?</p>
<p>Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but censorship usually occurs in history and literature courses as far as I know. I don't really believe in being hammered with Shakespeare and ancient history, so I wouldn't mind Baylor. As long as they aren't censoring the blood and guts I'll see in medical school, I'll be alright.</p>
<p>I've researched the undergraduate college and the medical school, and I discovered that the vast majority of Baylor medical students attended the undergraduate school, a matter of loyalty to alumni I suppose.</p>
<p>I doubt the tuition would be an issue for my family either. The only schools my family couldn't pay for are the very prestigious schools where I might not be as large a target for the scholarship darts. I won't need much financial aid though.</p>
<p>Texasmathwhiz - Baylor University in Waco does not have a medical school. Baylor College of Medicine in Houston severed its ties to Baylor in Houston many years ago and now is totally independent. Though Baylor University's (Waco) pre-med grads per your research may get some attention from Baylor College of Medicine, it's not because of any institutional arrangements. Also, very well-regarded Baylor Hospital System in Dallas (which has a dental school but no medical school) has no institutional ties to Baylor University in Waco as well.</p>
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<p>Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but censorship usually occurs in history and literature courses as far as I know.</p>
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<p>Well, and on the editorial page of the student newspaper -- an editor supported gay marriage in an OPINION piece, and he was condemned by the administration, which vowed to never let such a thing happen again. And I'm sure it won't. Which is, by itself, enough to make me cross Baylor off any of my clients' lists.</p>
<p>Well it's a religious school, I'm not saying that's right, I think it's wrong, but that shouldn't be brought up at a religious school.</p>
<p>Being a Texas democrat who isn't homophobic, I don't speak up about my beliefs much as to not start arguments all the time. I know how to be polite and accept everyone's opinions.</p>
<p>I'm not talking about whether they have a right to run their religious private school any way they want. I'm talking about whether the way they run their religious private school makes it unworthy of respect as a center for intellectual inquiry, i.e., a university.</p>
<p>Okay. Well it is definitely unsuitable for religious intellectual inquiry; but it's a religiously affiliated school, people go there for the religion, not to argue with it.</p>
<p>For those who strongly believe in a different faith, Baylor is not a suitable school. My family is Catholic by heritage, but I remain non-denominational. I'm not so stuck in one sect of Christianity though, that I would be bothered by the religious tendencies of the university.</p>
<p>Folks. The Baylor of Robert Sloan no longer exists. The Regents will elect a new president who will right the ship. Professors will no longer be asked religious litmus test questions. Sloan's trojan horse plan to turn Baylor into a large Wheaton(Ill.) has been cut off at the pass.</p>
<p>The school will remain conservative, and predominantly Christian as it has been throughout its history. What will be gone are the attacks on faculty freedom from Sloan and his minions, and the horrid, and indefensible ethno-centric faculty hiring practices. Baylor will quickly earn its reputation back as a conservative but thinking University. Probably way too conservative for some on the board-my D included, and if so,don't look. But if you are a conservative that wants a good pre-med education, you can certainly get one at BU at a very reasonable cost. (and BTW that Bball/murder stuff could have happened anywhere.)</p>
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<p>The Regents will elect a new president who will right the ship. </p>
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<p>That's good to hear. It's not like you can't have a conservative, religiously affiliated school and still allow political and cultural debate -- when this blew up at Baylor, the administration at Texas Christian stated publicly that it would not do the same, and that students were free to take both sides of difficult issues in the student paper. SMU gives its students similar leeway (as do many Catholic universities which have close ties to the church).</p>
<p>I know a guy who's dad knew the murderer.</p>
<p>Stuff happens in big cities, I don't intend to play sports there, so it's all good.</p>
<p>Waco isn't what I would call a big city. Murders do happen everywhere. It was tragic, but the dishonesty of the coach- who had already been shown to be a dishonest person at prior universities- was upsetting as well.</p>
<p>I'm pretty familiar with Waco, it's not a small city, but I didn't mean it was Dallas in any way. It depends on personal experiences, the perception of a big city.</p>