<p>Personally, I think it's a policy hand-written and instituted by the hand of God himself, but realistically, it's obviously unfair.</p>
<p>In my case, I think it's fair. I'm an "opressed" first-generation Mexican immigrant longing for a better life in Amerikka. I emphasized that tremendously in my college essays. Indeed, I got in everywhere, including 1 Ivy (Yale! Class of 2012!!!)</p>
<p>Your thoughts?</p>
<p>im asian...</p>
<p>Wow, that says a lot. It says you're bitter. Ya?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, I must say, contrary to popular consensus, you DON'T need to be the best of the best to attend an expensive daddy's boy Ivy League school. Nay, my SAT is a mediocre 1650. </p>
<p>I encourage the discouraged to reconsider.</p>
<p>Here what I wrote for a previous thread on AA a while ago:</p>
<p>"See, I'm Asian. And while I may have good grades and various extracurricular activities, my family is a far, far cry from the rich well-off Asian families in parts of California like Cupertino, Palo Alto, Fremont, San Jose, etc. I go to a pretty crappy high school (little to no competition) and have had to make due with what I've been given; nothing has been handed to me. Here, the majority of the students are Latino, with a large chunk of Blacks, Filipinos, and Pacific Islanders, sprinkled with some Whites and East Asians and I am certainly not better off then anyone else at this school. It is not fair that I have to be judged against those Asians in the competitive schools when I pretty much grew up in the same situation as the URMs affirmative action so seeks to help."</p>
<p>And really, even if I was helped by AA, I still wouldn't like it as I'm one of those people who has to get things the right way, on my own merit and talents, than through help- and the fact that the only reason I got in over some better qualified candidate only because of my race? That would kill me. And I don't know, but I would almost even feel cheated, like saying that I wasn't good enough to be admitted solely based on my grades and ECs, but they had to drag my race into it. If I got into a great school, as an Asian female, I would KNOW that I was accepted based on my stats and only my stats.</p>
<p>his statement may show that he is bitter, but for good reason--it shows, in a condensed form, an acceptance of what is essentially true, and the implications carried by the statement.</p>
<p>this topic has been debated many times before--the epic battles may be perused through a simple search of CC archives.</p>
<p>note: by the way, the attempted trolling could be better.</p>
<p>A lot of us really do need AA. AA is so subjective, really...</p>
<p>Statistically, Asians don't need it and I doubt you're an outsider point in the correlation of Race vs Annual Income.</p>
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yes, i'm aware of this. But every year CC is flooded by newbies and newcomers. Their fresh thoughts are very welcome.</p>
<p>almost every argument concerning AA has been argued already. the fresh thoughts are less than so to those who have partaken in them in ages past.</p>
<p>One can hope.</p>
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/b/tard 4 evar!</p>
<p>I'm a WASP, so, salvete noblesse oblige, I have no opinions on AA.</p>
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<p>By what right does anyone decide who needs this sort of aid? If the most qualified applicants to a university are overwhelmingly Asian is that necessarily a bad thing? Why should Barack Obama's girls be given an unfair advantage when the FOB whose parents don't speak a word of English will be judged by a wholly less sympathetic criteria. Doesn't that just strike at the very core of what the civil rights movement was all about; equality of opportunity. We don't combat racial discrimination by discriminating on the basis of race. We shall overcome indeed!</p>
<p>Bitter Asian here. :D</p>
<p>But seriously, I think they should implement these policies based on socioeconomic circumstances in addition to (or maybe in lieu of) race. Unless they already do. Otherwise, I'm sure they're some low-income inner city WASPs and working class Asian immigrants going WTH when decision time rolls around.</p>
<p>I think these topics usually end in flame wars. Hopefully we can keep it civilized.</p>
<p>AA is the absolute embodiment of racial profiling and discrimination</p>
<p>I know more than enough hispanics and blacks who are wealthier and more well off than I am. I know there are whites and asians living in cities like Compton, yet AA still gives the advantage to a black person living in a city like san marino. Basically, AA assumes every white and asian is rich and every hispanic and black is poor.</p>
<p>FTR, Half-Asian who got into #1 choice EA (chicago).</p>
<p>So I'm not that bitter :rolleyes:</p>
<p>u got into yale with a 1650?...great example of affirmative action at its best right there.</p>
<p>looks like your just starting this thread to show of how u got into a good school because of affirmative action....rather immature if u ask me</p>
<p>Wow incognito, we're in the exact same boat. </p>
<p>I was planning on writing my essays about it too (even before I even knew what AA was) on my apps when that time comes, so hopefully I'll be as fortunate as you. :)</p>
<p>But yeah, AA can be unfair in some ways but I feel the 'advantage' is completely deserved in my case.</p>
<p>And tennis, you're the immature bitter jackass saying he is only successful because of his ethnicity.</p>
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<p>Actually, AA assumes nothing of the sort. It assumes that there are too many Asians and Whites and not enough Blacks and Hispanics. Advocates for AA, including Ted O'Neill the dean of admissions at U Chicago, have stated that they think Barack Obama's children deserve AA aid because their experiances make for a "more interesting campus." The dark secret of AA is that they know that the Obama girls will benefit from this program, and that the poor white student will be hurt, and they don't care.</p>
<p>I dislike AA but colleges can do whatever they please. As much as I would like for a college app system that expressly forbade the inclusion of your name, race, etc. I don't really see it happening. Financial Aid is even more ridiculous. If you're poor and not a minority, you get way less opportunities, pathetic.</p>
<p>dont get bitter with me cono bc u need aa to help u get into college. ur the selfish one saying aa is deserved in ur case</p>