<p>Ok i have a horrific low sat I(new version) score of 1150, due to the fact I am the first generation of immigrants. I moved to US recently...
I have a gpa of 3.1weighted 2.99unweighted and i've taken 8 ap classes. My question is if this would kill my chances to any 4 year, or would colleges consider my situation and understand my low sat score?</p>
<p>some schools im thinking on applying to are,</p>
<p>Safety
-Niagara University(EA)
Match
-San Francisco state University
-San Jose state university
-Cal state San Bernandino
-Cal state Domingez Hills
Reach
-UC Irvine
-UC Riverside
-University of la verne</p>
<p>They will be more lenient if you are a) majoring in math-science type of thing and b) have a very good score on the math part of the SAT
By the way, when did you move to the U.S.? I am an immigrant myself :)
Good Luck</p>
<p>With an 1150, you shouldn't be worrying about getting into a 4 year college. That is well above the national average, and the majority of the students will go to 4 year colleges. You should be able to get into most state schools.</p>
<p>um, I don't think so...1140 is only 380 average per section. Even if you totally bombed english, even if you're only a decent student, math is the same in any language. You should've at least gotten ~500 in math if you're college-bound at all. That only leaves ~300 pts each for the reading and writing which is crazy low, practically impossible to do if you're trying at all. And your english isn't THAT bad, just judging from your post.</p>
<p>Nothing, even the fact that you're a first gen. immigrant (there's quite a few of us) excuses that kind of score. 4 years isn't that short a time span. I went from ESL to accelerated in a little over two years. If I can do it, you can bet other people can. Valedictorian at my extremely competitive school is first gen, too, with 35 ACT.</p>
<p>Either this post is some sort of weird joke or you mean old version of SATs or you just totally messed up the test, like bubbled in an entire section wrong or something. Because this is insane.</p>
<p>"the 3.1 does not include my senior gpa,and im currently taking 4 AP's which would impact my final weighted gpa."</p>
<p>State universities or CSUs/UCs don't consider your senior GPA unless it's below 2.0. (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong?)</p>
<p>But hey, unless this is a joke, talk to your guidance counselor about your options since we don't exactly know your situation and ah everything else.</p>
<p>As Crayon suggested, you may wish to speak with your GC about your situation. There are schools out there that will consider you without looking at your SAT scores...go to <a href="http://www.fairtest.org%5B/url%5D">www.fairtest.org</a>. Your GPA is a B average, so all is not lost. You may chose to specifically look at schools that are more understanding and nurturing. Your GPA does indicate that you can handle the work, but I would suggest that you aim smart...so that your college experience will be manageable for you. Better, I think, to aim a little low and shine...than to aim too high at this point and struggle. Remember, you can always transfer to a better school if your first two years are successful.</p>
<p>Don't let people discourage you. But, do work hard to shore up areas of weakness (it would be helpful to know why you experienced such difficulty with the SAT) and get some advice from one of the GC professionals at school. Lay out your situation, then lay our your goals and dreams. Good luck.</p>
<p>Immigrant of 4 years has no right to claim situation. Good colleges have enough fine domestic kids without making an exception for an immigrant. If they run out of those, they can go international and welcome all the kids who'd love a shot and have spotless records and, even better, are willing to pay full tuition.</p>
<p>Sorry, but that's the harsh truth of it all. If you weren't ready for high school when you immigrated, you should've stayed back a few years. A friend of mine did that, same age as me and she's only a sophomore but at least she's got a 4-point to show for it.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you're just going community college or something, you've got nothing to worry about. You'll probably be top of the class. I sometimes forget myself when I ghost over from my usual haunts-most often Columbia, where everyone's a freaking genius and I have to remember to reset my standards to more humanly levels when I leave those areas.</p>
<p>Soumanyon ~ Cut Ana111 some slack. Please try to remember that at one time, someone in your family was an immigrant and needed a helping hand to get ahead, not a back hand. While an 1150 (new) is low, a B GPA isn't bad. Obviously OP can work and achieve, just standardized tests aren't OP's thing at the moment.</p>
<p>I hope that when you stumble and fall, and dear soul you will, others are more supportive of you than you are of Ana111.</p>
<p>I strongly believe that we here on the board should offer up reality with a spoonful of sugar. No situation is so bad, so desperate, that there can't be a positive outcome. You're certainly smart enough to see that positive outcomes are often based on positive attitudes, so I feel it's our job to encourage, encourage, encourage. We should want to insert a very positive audio tape in the heads of people who post here, and treat them with the utmost dignity. This is our common humanity.</p>
<p>Ana111 ~ Head up. Work hard. Follow your dreams. OB</p>
<p>I think that SAT score is really going to hurt, so you may want to look into community colleges with high transfer rates to four-year schools. After 2 years at a CC, they won't even look at SAT(usually). It seems like you are capable of getting a good gpa, so this may be a good way to get into a four-year program.</p>
<p>Other options: Take the ACT or take the SAT over</p>
<p>"at one time, someone in your family was an immigrant"</p>
<p>Please don't think that I'm the proverbial bystander poking fun; I'm not. The "someone" in my family includes me. I'm a first gen. immigrant, only been in the US for five years myself. I think that gives me a pretty accurate picture of what she's facing. My grand total of 17 years of life has been split in 3 countries and 2 continents. Oh yeah, I definitely know that, at some time, someone in my family was an immigrant.</p>
<p>And unfortunately, despite idealized views of the world, immigrants get treated like trash. They're expected to catch up and if they can't, they shouldn't've come in the first place. It's "hard love" in a way. Is it unfair? Sure, but life isn't fair; it's a long series of trade-offs.</p>
<p>I've known my share of stumbles and trips and flat-on-my-face falls and while support and encouragement are wonderful, so's honesty. And honestly, I don't see how a 1150 on the new SAT is going to get you into a decent university if your best excuse is that 4 years ago, you immigrated.</p>
<p>There's encouragement and support and there's supporting a delusion. Personally, I think you're able to make better educated choices if you get hard facts to base them on, and while sugar-coating and innocence is nice, planning out your life is something you want to do with the most accurate information.</p>
<p>Treating people with dignity is respecting them enough to let them form their own choices and opinions after you hand them the facts. Focusing on only the positives of life is coddling and babying. There are negatives in life and everyone has to accept that someday.</p>
<p>I truly admire your optimism and I'm not trying to get into a debate with you; you seem too nice. But our views of the world and appropriate behavior towards others in the world conflicts. You have your views and these are mine.</p>
<p>But for UCR or UCI, your GPA is kind of low, and your SAT score will hurt you somehow. As OrangeBlossom said, you can go to a communtity college for 2 years and do Junior-transfer to a UC or CSU. </p>
<p>I am also a newcomer to this country (but not as an immigrant, there is a long story behing this). I came here 2.5 yrs ago. I know how hard it is to do well in high school and how difficult the SAT is. But keep trying and don't be discouraged. Add Oil!!!</p>
<p>soumanyon :
380 math 400cr 410wr
Yes, I was actually mistaken, 1180 not a 1150.
And yes, I am aware that my scores are terrible, especially the math section. I was barely in the second half of Algebra I when I took the SAT I. Now I am in Algebra II, retaking the SAT in Nov. </p>
<p>"Nothing, even the fact that you're a first gen. immigrant (there's quite a few of us) excuses that kind of score. 4 years isn't that short a time span. I went from ESL to accelerated in a little over two years. If I can do it, you can bet other people can. Valedictorian at my extremely competitive school is first gen, too, with 35 ACT"</p>
<p>Thanks for your honesty, but I do believe situations vary from person to person. There is an major difference between an immigrant that comes from an educated family and an immigrant that does not, there are also other influential aspects as prior education, problems and tragedies an indivual might had faced.
Yes, indeed, immigrants do face many challenges and problems, however some are more serious than others. In my case, no members in family went to college hence I had no help from family members. In addition I did have a strong pre high school preparartion due to the bad public education system in my country and in top of that I was in therapy for two years, and faced many other personal problems that affected my academic development . I do not think is right that you to compare ones's achievements to other's achievents without knowing enough information about the person.</p>
<p>"I do not think is right that you to compare ones's achievements to other's achievents without knowing enough information about the person."</p>
<p>Then why are you asking for opinions if you acknowledge that you haven't presented enough information about yourself and that you think it's right to compare when you don't have that necessary information?</p>
<p>Of course situations vary from person to person. But if you didn't have strong prehigh school preparation, maybe you should've waited a few years before starting high school, especially if you were in therapy and you knew that your family wouldn't be much help on the academic front. Waiting a few years because of all of your reasons listed would have been an excusable solution, given that few colleges care about your prehigh school record. But if you plunge ahead knowing you aren't ready for it, there are going to be consequences that you'll be forced to accept.</p>
<p>All I'm saying is that the people with the best qualifications should get into a college over less qualified people if their excuses are situations that could have been remedied. But that's probably not the way colleges think, so I won't debate this with you since you've obviously formed your own opinions and don't need mine.</p>