<p>Good point zman, SAT tests how much you've learned in high school not how well you can do in college. AP classes do that.
If you got denied, appeal, thats the only thing I can say. Give them something n</p>
<p>So Zach,
How much is it going to cost $$ you at LSU ???</p>
<p>If I get all the awards the office of admissions said I was up for, it'll be about $3,500 a year.</p>
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I think a lot of the students on this thread (but not all) are full of themselves. Whether you want to believe it or not, there's a reason why you got rejected. Stop blaming your shortcomings on affirmative action, holisitic admissions, the "economic climate," and all other concoctions you've managed to come up with.
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<p>So much word.</p>
<p>On an interesting note, I got in with a 3.6 unweighted, 1210 SAT. ... Granted, I had a 32 ACT, but crappy essay.</p>
<p>Oh. I forgot to mention, I'm hispanic.</p>
<p>-feeds flame-</p>
<p>^^^^^
Sorry, Hispanic here with 1360 Sat REJECTEDMUNDO.
Puts out the flame?</p>
<p>Poor testers simply don't retain knowledge as well.
explain it otherwise.
the SAT tests you on different subjects, not on the history of the SAT.</p>
<p>i'm a freaking ethnic pileup, by the way.</p>
<p>My son started school in Florida, Grades 2 thru 5. Top student in his school, won some small awards for academics. Moved north to a community where education is really pushed hard. Tough AP Program and competing against groups that use outside educational facilities to keep their children on top. If he stayed in FL, I am sure he would have been in top 10%, if not top 5%.</p>
<p>I am not crying foul here. But to those who believe that FL is using the best methodology to admit kids, I beg to differ. Grades reflect a level of achievement in a course compared to fellow students and taught at a specific level. For anyone who feels that FL has the best High Schools in the country, then they are smoking something. Check your national rankings and you will realize that the system is far from best. I am not saying it is bad, but let's be for real here. There are always kids that are top of their class and score perfect SAT/ACT scores. But there just seem to be less of them by percentage in FL then elsewhere. </p>
<p>SAT's and ACT's do a reasonable job to permit comparisions of kids across the country. GPA's are much more subjective. Some kids test well and other do not test well ever. In business, you are tested all the time, so you know where I fall on the subject. It is clear that the standardized test scores in many states outside of FL relect higher scores due to better teaching facilities. Therefore, to compare a 4.0 in FL to a 4.0 in the North is just not reasonable. To compare them wihin the state of FL is more reasonable. The key is that this is a University supporting the kids of Florida and not a school that wants to have a mix of backgrounds. Prineton could fillits classes from NJ alone, but chose to ensure a mix of students from all states and many nations. They believe this is the better way.</p>
<p>It may sound like I am complaining, but I am not! I am losing no sleep of having him rejected. I am not saying those accepted from FL are lesser students. I am just saying that this is how the system is designed to work and it is biased to benefiting kids from FL over OOS kids. FL pays the taxes to support the school and the Lottery picks up the tab for the gifted kids. It works as designed. </p>
<p>If you are from OOS and understand what the design is, then you realize that you have to be accepting that your child may not get accepted at this school, no matter how perfect they are. But if they are that good, I am sure they got into other schools without any problems. </p>
<p>I know one kid that was accepted at Yale and rejected from what he thought was his safety school of UF. I guess he will just have to settle for Ivy League.</p>
<p>Congrats to all that made any school and hope they make the best of it. For the UF fanatics....CHOMP!</p>
<p>How were your UF essays?</p>
<p>Truth Defense has nailed it!</p>
<p>We could very well have the worst Admissions Policies in the country!</p>
<p>Well florida is a state school, not private. of course its going to admit its own before it goes oos.</p>
<p>Well almost half of UVA's incoming class is from OOS.</p>
<p>UF should start admitting more OOS students.</p>
<p>I had no idea florida was such a tough school to get into? I didnt apply but i read this thread and damn</p>
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We could very well have the worst Admissions Policies in the country!
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<p>No, that would be Texas where the legislature has ruled that any Texas student who is in the top 10% MUST be admitted to any Texas school they want, including the flagships - UT or A&M. It doesn't matter what SAT/ACT score they got, they could draw a happy face in the spot for essays, they could have been convicted of a crime, they will still get a spot based on class rank ALONE.</p>
<p>That's the worst policy!! :)</p>
<p>BTW, I have a senior at UF - OOS, non-top 10% kid, but a NMF, with high SAT score. He got in UF in his major, he didn't hear back from UT (our state school of choice) until May that he had finally gotten in - he told them to jump in a lake! Go Gators!!</p>
<p>Up till a few years ago, UF had the guaranteed admission for the top 10%. It was discontinued about 3 years ago, I believe.</p>
<p>Not the same program...</p>
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"In Florida, the [Talented 20] plan has almost no bite, it has almost no effect," says Dr. Gary Orfield, co-director of the Civil Rights Project at Harvard University. "Nobody's very disturbed about it, because it actually does very little." </p>
<p>The Civil Rights Project took an in-depth look at the Talented 20 in 2003, and the resulting report eviscerated Florida's program to replace affirmative action in university admissions. </p>
<p>Among other things, the report claims the Talented 20 fails to guarantee admission to the top students in Florida's state schools, like the Texas program does. Instead, Talented 20 students must meet individual admission requirements for state colleges.
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<p>In Florida, top 20% gains admission to A state school, not The state school of choice.</p>
<p>Helpful Mom....if I'm not mistaken, that policy was for the top 5%....and there were other conditions like minimum course load.</p>
<p>No, the talented 20 is a different program.
Yes, rogracer it was 5%. I had a different article that I can't find but you can see it here:
<a href="http://www.ocpaonline.org/What_s_New/GovReports/apr2002.doc%5B/url%5D">http://www.ocpaonline.org/What_s_New/GovReports/apr2002.doc</a></p>
<p>Going back a bunch of pages (I think page 2).
If you're a valedictorian, but made a 1000-1100 on the SAT, you're a bonehead.</p>
<p>I (and many of my friends, who are in the bottom 30% at my school) made higher scores than that in 8th grade.</p>
<p>A person like that should send up red flags to an adcom that say:</p>
<p>"The only reason I make good grades at all is because I waste my life studying my brains out for them! I have little to no natural intelligence, so nothing comes quickly to me! I will be absolutely befuddled by higher level college courses!"</p>