<p>ssobick: i'm from NJ....UCF is definitely on the radar, especially for honors program and for some majors......</p>
<p>and unless you are entrenched in college admissions, most people do not know how difficult it is to be admitted to UF, especially from OOS.....but does the quality match up to the selectivity? are you in massive lectures? taught by TA's? etc.....</p>
<p>as I said, UF is not on our radar up here due to selectivity....we have adult family members in FLA who are alumni who are amused by how difficult it is to be admitted.....</p>
<p>^^yup, but what's the huge difference between a 3.7 and 3.9....a couple of B+'s in AP's? Is it the same as the difference between a 1400 and 1200?</p>
<p>i'm not advocating forgetting about GPA....nor am i saying SATACT should take precedence...and i'm not advocating acceptance of a very low gpa with a high SAT...</p>
<p>but some people are talking about miniscule differences in GPA's, out of context of their schools with SAT's hundreds of points higher....</p>
<p>If UF doesn't really care about SAT's, they should state so, or even, go optional.....that would be very interesting, wouldn't it? increase their selectivity even more......</p>
<p>"UF is not on our radar up here due to selectivity"</p>
<p>It honestly does not matter that much what people from NJ think of UF (not exactly the nicest state if you know what I mean). I know people from NYC have heard of this school, and a heck of alot of alumni make up the Gotham City Alumni Association. Our presence there is 1000x stronger than UCF almost anywhere is the USA or abroad.</p>
<p>Visited school last week and was advised the following:</p>
<p>GPA based upon Four Major Subjects and Foreign Language
Standard point values of 0 for F thru 4 for A
Additional .5 for Honor classes
Additional 1.0 for AP classes
GPA is given greater priority than SAT or ACT
Class Rank appears also to have strong influence
Description of EC's more important than you might think. Embelish such activities and stress your compassion for same. Saying you are playing a sport means little. Reference awards, tornaments, training, commitment. You are selling yourself by an app and this is really your only way for them to find out who you are.</p>
<p>My son had approx 4.0 weighted by UF rules
SAT II's were 700, 760 and 800 (I doubt they even look at these and are not required.
ACT 30
OOS Student </p>
<p>I doubt UF knew anything about his NJ HS - After all, it is a Florida State University.
He was admitted in Honor programs at comparable schools</p>
<p>Lesson learned? For Florida, A's are more important than Honor B's. If you have the choice, go with the A</p>
<p>Class rank seems very important</p>
<p>Out of State - seems to work against you. (Were advised that only 5% of admissions were from OOS. Not sure if % admitted reflects the % of applications.)</p>
<p>No crying here, just a little disappointed as he liked the school. Great Tour Guides (Cameron & Vu)</p>
<p>Good Luck to all and Congrats to those who got accepted.</p>
<p>ssobick: based on info in thread above, that Gotham City alumni assoc you speak about may be hard pressed to sustain itself into the future.......5% of admissions from OOS; then you have to account for yield, FA, etc.....and not all of them are from NY/NJ......</p>
<p>Truth Defense: thanks for posting....i'll go back to ignoring UF threads on CC as I had previously....no offense to anyone....congrats to those admitted!!</p>
<p>Enrollment has always been that way. Florida, Texas, and California are primarily made up of In-State students (notice a pattern with the highly populated states)</p>
<p>UF has a ton of Broward, Palm Beach, and Dade county students. Alot of them have strong ties to NYC. People refer to these 3 counties as the 6th borough.</p>
<p>I'm not surprised there are a lot of people with high test scores that got rejected. Quite a few of my friends with 1400+ SAT's got rejected from UF. While it stings (for some) to have hard working people of average intelligence get admitted and smart but lazy people get rejected, that's really what UF wants and nobody can really tell them otherwise. That is the kind of student they feel is most apt to succeed at UF and beyond. UF is at the point where its primary mission is not to educate the masses but to produce people who will make a name for UF.</p>
<p>What people with high SAT's need to realize is that there are many different kinds of intelligence. I know this from personal experience because I look extremely good on paper, but this past year I've been taking a martial arts class and I learn new forms barely at the average pace simply because my mind is not very gifted at learning physical techniques. Another kind of intelligence is "social" intelligence whereby some people are able to network much better than others. There are so many types of intelligence that cannot be measured on a test like the SAT, so things like leadership positions in clubs and awards are used as a proxy for the other types. Let's be frank: the world is not a meritocracy. Choosing people for a university based solely on academic ability completely neglects other paths to success such as good networking aptitude and schmoozing ability.</p>
<p>"While it stings (for some) to have hard working people of average intelligence get admitted and smart but lazy people get rejected, that's really what UF wants and nobody can really tell them otherwise. That is the kind of student they feel is most apt to succeed at UF and beyond. UF is at the point where its primary mission is not to educate people but to produce people who will make a name for UF."</p>
<p>That is a good point, but the cynic in me believe that it is a left-wing agenda being promulated to force a kind of social engineering on this flagship university and the alumni we produce. Why are student getting admitted to Top-25 privates, but fail to be admitted into UF (it's not because they are lazy, but more that we just do not have room after all the hollistic admits are accounted for).</p>
<p>Also UF admissions does not speak for the entire Gator Nation. Surely most of the alumni would like UF to focus on achieving excellence.</p>
<p>At a MINIMUM if you didn't even score at least the 1270 you needed for the 100% Bright Futures scholarship you don't deserve admissions into UF.</p>
<p>How hard could it be to met a MINIMUM standard in the state of FloriDUH?</p>
<p>Specifically these kids from my HS only took Honors, no AP's.
I challenge myself with 7 AP's and this is what I get.</p>
<p>I guess I should not have been laughing at those ass kissers groveling for every extra point and askfor ing extra work when they bombed a test to keep their GPA up. I guess I should also have turned my english reports into "art projects" like those other suck ups at my school did.</p>
<p>Good luck to UF graduating hundreds of sociology, psychology and history majors.
The future UF "worker bees" are on their way!</p>
<p>hmmmm^^interesting....is it possible that UF is playing the financial card? by not having to pay 100% BF for those who didn't make the cut, they can get more $$ w/o scholarships? this would certainly make more sense in this econ climate......</p>
<p>"I have faith that the UF Admissions staff know what they are doing."</p>
<p>I have absolute faith they know what they are doing. What they are doing is Social Engineering, and they are doing a damn good job at achieving their objectives.</p>
<p>The question is: does it violate the equal protection clause? is the pattern that we have been seeing fair to the best & brightest?</p>
<p>^^^^
Doubt it.
The state of Florida thru the loterry pays for BF.</p>
<p>They are however playing the USNWR ranking game by going for the "top 10% points"
There are more points to be had with top 10% points than with high SAT's point's.</p>
<p>I think a lot of the students on this thread (but not all) are full of themselves. Whether you want to believe it or not, there's a reason why you got rejected. Stop blaming your shortcomings on affirmative action, holisitic admissions, the "economic climate," and all other concoctions you've managed to come up with.</p>
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One last vent
At a MINIMUM if you didn't even score at least the 1270 you needed for the 100% Bright Futures scholarship you don't deserve admissions into UF.</p>
<p>How hard could it be to met a MINIMUM standard in the state of FloriDUH?</p>
<p>Specifically these kids from my HS only took Honors, no AP's.
I challenge myself with 7 AP's and this is what I get.</p>
<p>I guess I should not have been laughing at those ass kissers groveling for every extra point and askfor ing extra work when they bombed a test to keep their GPA up. I guess I should also have turned my english reports into "art projects" like those other suck ups at my school did.</p>
<p>Good luck to UF graduating hundreds of sociology, psychology and history majors.
The future UF "worker bees" are on their way!
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<p>As people have stated, people have different intelligences.
I'm taking 3 AP classes, 2 of which are math and 1 which can be used for some math majors.
I'm not a good test taker to tell you the truth but I'm strong in school, all the teachers I have do NOT give extra brownie points or extra credit. Yes the whole GPA/ranking is busted as well but what would schools base their valedictorian on?
One of my classmates who is taking 7 AP Classes got a low 1200 SAT but he's passed every AP with a 4 or better. He's extremely smart when it comes to Math or science.
The SAT/ACT is not the best way to measure intelligence.
What about the essay?
I haven't seen that being talked about too much. What about ECs?
Some people have faced obstacles, and its pretty easy to tell when someone's telling the truth or lying.
ECs do help.</p>
<p>I had pretty good SAT scores, a good UF GPA (3.8), and good ECS. I did the most I could with my academics while in high school. Instead of blaming the University of Florida for my rejection, I am getting myself ready for my college experience. I hopefully will be going to LSU in the fall. They are a school on the raise both academically and athletically. Remember folks, this is your life, don’t get discouraged or depressed. Look forward to your possible options and maximizes opportunities.</p>
<p>May I also add that the SAT doesn't test how smart you are, it only test how well you take the SAT. So don't say, "how hard could it be" because some people don't test well in that type of environment. I have a friend who failed out of UF after getting a 1400/1600 on his SAT. The SAT is a base attempt to see how well you mastered high school; it's not that indicative of your college success.</p>