<p>2010>2011 in terms of population? That's weird lol.</p>
<p>Not really, they're trying to lower the teacher to student ratio. One way to do that is to accept less people. A much better way is to hire more faculty.</p>
<p>hiring more faculty= more money to pay salaries = higher tuition</p>
<p>That's why they have the $1000 you pay at the entrance of the semester.</p>
<p>a lot of people are quick to jump in defending UF's admission decisions. they like to argue with an idealistic approach... that the whole app is considered, that something was lacking. but this is reality and in reality, there are not only consistensies, there are... er gaps in judgment? i dunno what else to call it. it's not flawed (of course not) but it is not what some keep inferring as flawless (there is a difference)</p>
<p>I totally understand that such points in that applications are given a comprehensive review, all that stuff...</p>
<p>and it can be very true those applicants with lower scores might have other strong points</p>
<p>but believe me, a lot of people i know who got in weren't all that amazing, in and out of the class</p>
<p>but really, there are no bitter feelings towards them... </p>
<p>it's just that some people definitely deserved to get in, but they were cheated</p>
<p>(not saying that it was intentional or malicious or anything. it wasn't at all)</p>
<p>for the record, i think UF puts heavy emphasis on grades and probably not the entire app as a whole. they probably see a couple of ECs and go, aw that's nice! and that's it. (think of all the applicants they have. the admissions officers are not going to sit there and read each with attentive sentiment)</p>
<p>i'm in the top 10% at school. i have decent ECs. i got a 1290. i might not have had a superb GPA (not like, valedictorian ranked) but i know i had a strong essay. and yet, i didn't get in.</p>
<p>my uncle was shot and killed. i moved 5 different times in the last 3 years (all across the nation) as a result. things happened, more things happened. </p>
<p>so if you're going to say, they consider everything else, and if you're going to label the rejects as nothing more than bitter, closed-minded people, you should think about your own closed minds</p>
<p>i am not one to say, zomg that kid got a 1000 and got in, wtheck</p>
<p>because yes, there is a lot more to a person. i understand that more than anyone. </p>
<p>but again, UF's admissions process is not flawless. it's not just inconsistent but outright weird (people with 1400s not getting in? that's kinda crazy... because yeah, UF isn't exactly Harvard, like someone said).</p>
<p>i do agree though, that if you don't get in, you don't get in and that you shouldn't go complain or cry (ah, the dumbness) >> because as someone said life isn't "fair" (our favorite word). however, you should not push away the fact that UF's admission process was inconsistent. it should be acknowledged that some people who didn't get in deserved to get in (i'm not talking about myself, i know a good amount of candidates who were rejected). yes you didn't get in, end of story, but the whole point of this thread was to elaborate on admissions (logically, intellectually, whatever), so if you're going to lecture someone on...ohLIFE, find the right topic, then post. the claim that "it's only those who got rejected" who are making threads like these is a faulty generalization. it is irrelevant and immature.</p>
<p>OK about the admissions complaining BS people need to face up to the facts. Just because you have great "stats" does not guarantee you entrance. Your essay ECs (and not just any ECs community service based ones that show you were truly in voled ex: starting a cancer fund at a children hospital like a friend of mine did... and he isnt going to UF he got accepted to standford). Everyone is constantly listing their gpa, SAT/ACT, good ECs (which is different in everyone's opinion) and that they do not understand why they didnt get in. Unfortunately for those who do not wanna hear it i'm gonna say it... your essay is a big part (30% and i have this number coming staright from mike powell and abou 5 other admissions peopl's own mouths). And you cannot say you wrote a good essay because you truly do not knownly the admissions people actually know if your essay has what they are looking for. Maybe you were bragging too much, didnt answer the question the way the wanted (which you do not know because your not them), or just were nothing special. And if you think the essay shouldn't be a big deal your wrong. I pose this question would you hire someone woth amazing credentials and recs. without ever meeting them... the answer if HELL NO, and thats because that person can be a total a$$ hole, not a team player, or a lying scumbag. UF does have interviews so the only thing they have to really know who you are and if they actually want you at their school is through your essay. Why do you think their essay has nothing to do with academics or your grades because all that info is on the previoues page of the application and know its time for them to see and learn about you and what you can contribute to UF and if they want you they'll take you. You may think someone deserved to get in but do you really think that an admissions person sits there reads a specdtacular application, essay, etc and says hey i think they belong here then take a out a red stamp that says rejected... if you do your a fool. And for those who think that getting in as an URM is a guarantee your wrond cuz lemme tell you this. My school is UFs #2 feeder school and a black haitian friend of mine got a 1570/1600 on his SAT, 35 ACT, and he got deferred ED and he went to the black scholars program. All in all UF knows what there doing (how you think there rank keeps going up.... 50-47 and guaranteed to raise this year). Plus do not think because you have various circumstances in your life either guaratees you entrance because if it did then admissions would really be BS. Oh yeah and this was mainly for Moshi.</p>
<p>sorry bout the typos in my post i'm posting while typing an essay for lit class. i wanna correct one thing UF does NOT have interviews for undergrad admissions.</p>
<p>Well the thing is that the people who keep on defending the way admissions works are the ones who got in....put yourself in our shoes for five seconds, lets say instead of getting in, you got rejected-wouldn't you feel stiffed if you thought you were well rounded, and you're only rejection came from your state school (not saying that it is inferior). But you want to know what exactly is that your state school is looking for because they dont have a consistent track in there acceptances.</p>
<p>You can always transfer into UF, or you could come to graduate/professional school here as well. But also keep in mind that FSU is a excellent university, with a really welcoming atmosphere. I really think that you are going to love it there, I sure had a great time when I used to visit almost every weekend while at UF.</p>
<p>If i got rejected (which i thougt i did at first because during the ED decision day i couldn't get into my account until 2 days later) the first thing i looked at and thought was maybe it was my essay. It's the only thing i can change now and my GPA and SAT are strong but either way they cannot be changed at this point so maybe i need to work on what i can change (i did get in ED tho so i guess everything was all good). And be honest with yourselves people do you really think they read and application love it and a truly believe you deserve to be there, (and want you there) then take a out a big red rejected stamp..... you know thats not true. Just because your have amazing stats does not men your wanted there by UF that just means your academically capable of being there, Your essay (closest thing they can do to an interview) is what decides if they want you to be apart of the school. your grades let them know that you did work hard an that academically you can be at UF but like an interview if they don't like you after meeting you, don't ecpect to tget a job there. If you got rejected there is a reason because to them you did not deserve to get accepted (atleast not over someone else). and i did get in and ofcourse i am gonna defend them but if i didnt get accepted i wouldnt attack them or even question there decision i would reflect and see what i could have done better ( and unfortunateley sometimes you don't knowwhat you can do better because you do not why the exact reosno for your rejection.) And back to the essay you never know if its "good" (atleats by UF standards). A 9 essay to your lit teacher may not be what UF finds that they want. I used the same essay for six schools (literally the same one) and got into all of them but that doesnt mean it perfect.</p>
<p>And you really think they have time to read 25k essays..yea right, lets be honest to ourselves if they spend more than 10mintues per app I would be surprised/ And that goes for most schools not only UF</p>
<p>Uh...... yea i do think they read all essays because have you heard of even one person not writing the essay portion and getting in.... i think not (well maybe one but even thats not likely)? And what even gave you the idea that they do not read all the essays in the first place; if your argument is it takes too much time or they don't feel like it your argument is lacking. Why do you think it takes about three months to make a decision and that they require you to write only 500 words. They want you to write a good essay that answers the question the way they want it answered, and do it in an elegant and concise fashion. Also if you break it down mathematically 25k apps & essay, over three separate 2 and a half months periods, divided among atleast 10 people (atleast), 25k apps & essays to read and review is pretty managable.</p>
<p>Also reviewing and app and reading a 500 word essay probably doesn't take them more that 10-15 min (20 tops). these are well-trained and experienced admissions officers who do this all the time. they immediately know what to look for and what is a + or a - and what who they want at UF (and not only UF any college or university in this country though Ivies like Harvard I know for a fact spend more time on apps because they even have interviews like some kids at my school had to go to and more criteria but you get the picture).</p>
<p>This thread fails it's purpose.</p>
<p>Dark i think you missed the point i was trying to make, which is that your essay is only one component of many, in your last few post you claimed that the essay was the largest portion of your evaluation, i really think they just skim through it, they dont sit there with a blanket reading it intently...</p>
<p>true that it is one component, and yea ofcourse they skim thru it, they know what they want in an essay and do not need much time to know if you essay has it, but don't get me wrong its not the MOST important part, I am just emphasizing it because it is a part many people neglect to give as much attention to as they do GPA and SAT/ACT (as can be seen when everyone just list off their gpa and SAT when complaining about not getting in). If you have one and not the other do not ecpect to get an acceptance letter. But w/e does anyone know the stats for the admissions rate for this year from a solid source.</p>
<p>lol....i think they read essays. would explain why some ppl with 1380's get rejected. because they wrote a crappy essay! and i guess some other factors may contribute as well.</p>
<p>Uf's admissions is a complete joke. I was defered rd1 and accepted in RD 2. I am deciding whether to attend UF or Cornell. Anyways i really think that UF admissions is the biggest crapshoot. There is a huge disparity between the acceptees.</p>
<p>"There is a huge disparity between the acceptees"</p>
<p>When you are comparing regular applicants versus URM applicants you are absolutely correct. But this can be applied to almost all public universities.</p>
<p>^ Totally agreed, I know this for a fact.</p>