<p>URM usually have gone thru much more in life than nonURM, if I remember correctly wasnt there a civil rights act passed in oh.... 1965 thats not even 50 years of equallity (and you know fair treatment did not start immediately after it was passed). Recovery from inequality and racist treatment does not happen in one generation so it should be expected that they are going to be treated differently Ofcourse they are going to be trated differently and trust being a URM does not guarantee entrance. My school is UF's #2 feeder school and only 4 blacks and about 6 or 7 hispanics (all had atleast 1200s one even had a 1570 on SAT, and 6-20 APs, and 4.4s+) got acceppted and many other URMs with over 4.0s and atleast 4 APs got denied at my school. So being a URM does not help to the exaggerated extent that everyone thinks it does. Just had to get that off my chest sorry for getting all racial and ethnic.</p>
<p>I personally would not include the "URM usually have gone thru much more in life than nonURM" argument when speaking about admissions. There are many non-URM that have gone through problems of there own. The one issue I have had with some black people (african-american ancestry) is that they think everything is about race. There was a study done (if I can find it, I will post it), where it showed that most of the black people in ivy leagues and top universities were either born or raised by parents from Caribbean or African (the continent). Also many of the successful blacks in the US also come from what previously mentioned.</p>
<p>If anyone remembered what Bill Cosby said, that caused an uproar and couple of years ago. I totally agree with what he said. Its just hard for some to hear the truth. </p>
<p>Also when I was agreeing with SS, I meant that URM's could get in with 1200+ and 1300+ because that was the high average for URM's that applied. While Asians and Caucasians had a high average of 1300+ and 1400+. Even though the average was lower for URM's they were still qualified.</p>
<p><strong><em>For anyone thats going to reply, don't turn this into a race thing</em></strong></p>
<p>Wasn't trying to make it a race thing only responded to what someone else said? Why then do URMs get in more easily then?</p>
<p>Sorry bout the "URM usually have gone thru much more in life than nonURM". I know everyone has had various struggles in their life and (race aside) and have all had to deal with it in different ways. But you have to understand that it gets annoying constantly hearing the URM complaint (espacillay when you are one cuz i'm from Jam) all the time. Majority of the people getting accpeted are nonURM so my point is everyone who applied pretyy much had an equal shot and being URM does not give you a drastic increase to the point of guarantee but i will say that UF admissions was hard and tough to getthrough but calling it unfair is not something I would agree with. </p>
<p>P.S. Asmaj i heard about that study somewhere to and to an extent i agree with a lot of what your saying.</p>
<p>i'm not saying this is true, because i know people make stuff up...but i heard that state schools were required to accept certain percentages of people with different gpa/scores...idk that would make more sense, but i'm not sure if it's even true...has anyone heard of this?</p>
<p>They are called 'institutional needs'. Factors that play are ethnic make up, socioeconomic status, talent, etc etc. Although many of UF's applicants had amazing credentials, they should not take their rejections personally, because public universities need to fulfill their needs that I mentioned above to create a more enriching and diverse learning environment.</p>
<p>I wonder how the new "one deadline/one decision date" for Fall 2007 applications (for Summer/Fall 08 admits) will affect the admission's stats at UF? Will they really evaluate the 25K applicants as a whole, or will the adcoms divide the applications into piles of: summer vs. Fall, URM's/diversity, honors (>1400SAT/4.0 GPA), and other categories. Wondering if this new single deadline will really even the playing field or just make it more difficult for average applicants (B students with lower end SAT's) to get in? Why should they admit a 1250 SAT when they have so many applicants with over a 1350?</p>
<p>Thank God i don't have to worry about appyling next year</p>
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<p>I feel this is how they will go about this with some overlapping in between. (e.g urm's with honors credentials, average applicant deferred to summer, etc)</p>
<p>ok so one of my friends recently went up to UF admissions office and asked about some of the admissions statistics. These are not the exact numbers though...</p>
<p>Total applications submitted roughly 25,000
Accepted summer roughly 3,000
Accepted fall roughly 6,000
So around 9,000 total incoming freshman...</p>
<p>Um the 9k that got accepted are not all going to be attending.....</p>
<p>true true. I just put up the numbers they told my friend...</p>
<p>Actually its closer to 9,800 admitted. UF only has space for ~6,600 students, which they base on previous years retention rates. If more student end up coming, it will be a big financial burden for UF and many of the colleges, esp CLAS.</p>
<p><strong><em>My 500th post!</em></strong></p>
<p>so how much lower will the acceptance rate really be just for this year? Talk seems to point to an even more competitive admissions season next yr.</p>