<p>Disclaimer: Rankings are worthless. And if you base your educational aspirations on silly U.S News you will be extremely disappointed one day.</p>
<p>But yeah I saw this the other day too. I was surprised, considering how comparable the two schools are, to see Penn jump two spots (#6 to #4) while Cornell slipped one. </p>
<p>Interestingly, when you look at the top 15, one thing that all the schools share–excluding Cornell and Dartmouth–is that they are located in or close to a major American city. You could say what about Duke? But Duke isn’t that far from Raleigh and Charlotte–which are quickly becoming thriving business and financial hubs. </p>
<p>Does this help explain Cornell’s decline and the upward trend of schools like Penn, Northwestern, and WashU in U.S News? Maybe, I don’t know. Ithaca is the best anyway.</p>
<p>This is a little bit annoying - because Cornell should be placed above Hopkins, Wash U and Northwestern, and I’d advocate above Penn as well…but Cornell seems to be in perpetual decline…</p>
<p>haha…I’m sure - you have to go to one of the above mentioned schools - because where does Ivy League status factor in to the ranking criteria…unless you are implying the rankings are manipulated, in which case every other university ranking becomes questionable and you still have a problem…so which one is it? </p>
<p>Just refer to the US news world rankings for my reasons for advocating Cornell over certain schools…based on substantive criteria like academic peer review, employer review, etc…</p>
<p>Who cares? Regardless of what USNEWS says, all of these schools are awesome. </p>
<p>Besides, Cornell is more reputable/known than schools like NW and WashU(at least from my personal experience). LOL, I’d estimate that 90% of the population has never heard of WashU/think that WashU is in Washington.</p>
<p>Rather than criticizing where Cornell is, perhaps it would be more constructive to criticize the methodology that got it to where it is…</p>
<p>My understanding is that Cornell generally does better in peer review, and worse in student/faculty ratio, class sizes, etc. So if you go to Cornell, know that you’re getting your education at a true research university!</p>
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<p>I’d disregard btp, who evidently gets his thrills by hyping up USC, while ■■■■■■■■ around Cornell and Yale’s forums with trite remarks.</p>
<p>Cornell is better than Duke and much better than Brown
UCLA better than UVA that is weird, and UCSD come on have you seen that school
I think they change things around just to change
If year after year, same list who’s going to buy it?</p>
<p>Hmm… I’d be interested to see how Cornell A&S + Eng would do in the US News algorithm. After all, even just considering those two colleges, Cornell would still be quite a bit larger (in student enrollment) than peers and other than a few exceptions (like Northwestern), Cornell’s peers are just comprised of Arts and Engineering colleges.</p>
<p>also obviously certain programs vary in quality from school to school. where would penn be ranked without wharton? by the same token, AEM as a program would probably deserve to be associated with a school of higher rank (not that i don’t think cornell is outstanding!)</p>
<p>do the US news rankings consider Grad programs as well within the university ranking? I was under the impression they did grad schools separately.</p>
<p>People who post rankings needs to get a life.
People who takes rankings seriously need to get a life.
You go to college so you can get a better job.
You need the right college to get that better job.
The right college has the right courses and job resources.
No ranking can tell you that.
Stop being lazy and start researching every college instead of overlooking them.
Fact: There are more than 100 colleges in the US than the rankings lead you to think. You have the choice to choose from 5,758 colleges. You DON’T start choosing colleges by looking at rankings.</p>