<p>affirmative action is deliberately trying to recruit under-represented minorities, ie blacks, hispanics, NATIVE AMERICANS lol. thus, standards for these groups tend to be lower. the same kind of thing applies for people who live in areas that traditionally dont send a lot of students to top schools (ie midwest)</p>
<p>Aaaah I remember now, thanks.</p>
<p>Yes that is a bit silly. Fair enough if any of those minorities were actually treated differently in society, but they’re not. I think it would be interesting to see what happened with admissions if race, gender etc were not mentioned in college applications.</p>
<p>It don’t matter if you’re black or white… <em>bursts into song</em></p>
<p>lol at your singing hahahha</p>
<p>but yeah that would be interesting. I’d imagine half the ivy leagues would be asian xD which would not be desirable. I don’t disagree that to some degree affirmative action is necessary. It’s just that I, as an overrepresented minority, cannot help but see a huge unfairness</p>
<p>But if the Asian kids are the best candidates, then… why not? I think it should be done more on social factors, like regard the student in respect to the opportunities they’ve had. If someone of African descent, one of Asian, one white, and one Native American all went to the same high school and grew up in the same town, they pretty much had the same opportunities, so they can be compared in that way. Of course, there’s always going to be personal issues and family histories, but who’s to say that a caucasian kid had any better an upbringing than one from a black family? I do think it’s unfair to give someone an unfair advantage for their cultural background.</p>
<p>I think a lot of it has to do with this obsession with political correctness. It bugs me.</p>
<p>^thanks for supporting my stance. I was afraid I was going to get yelled at or called a racist lol. I’m Lisa btw nice to meet you!</p>
<p>I am Joey. Nice to meet you, also!</p>
<p>People are so afraid of racism these days, it’s crazy. And mostly unnecessary.</p>
<p>I know ugh. can’t people see that forcing equality leads to no good. America is heading toward communism I tell you. and dang I thought I was a liberal</p>
<p>re: portugeseninja’s “Fair enough if any of those minorities were actually treated differently in society, but they’re not.” I wish this were true. There has been incredible progress in the last 50 years, as Obama getting elected showed, but I can tell you that racism is alive and well in many parts of the US. It’s rarely explicit hatred for a certain race, but it’s still there. I’m from a very white, somewhat hick small town, so I understand that those of you from the suburbs and cities have had probably had very different experiences. But trust me, it’s there.</p>
<p>Having said that, I agree with ninja that promoting socioeconomic diversity should be more of a priority than simple ethnic diversity.</p>
<p>hey guys
well, i think the whole affirmative action issue is pretty controverse
however i feel like it doesn’t make sense anymore as bein asian or white does not guarantee a life full of opportunities
i really agree with ninja’s statement…it is the way one grew up that determines the opportunities you get or lack</p>
<p>and yes, i know that racism does exist and i have been confronted with it multiple times and i doubt that these incidents will ever stop completely, but i believe that there are ways to deal with it, as long as it is no extreme racism</p>
<p>by the way i am black and i did not think for one second that the things stupefy or ninja have said made them racists</p>
<p>however stupefy,
i read some of your posts on the harvard posts and they make it seem like you only want to use Yale as a backup which isn’t really fair to those who apply SCEA because yale actually is their first choice ;)</p>
<p>I in no way was trying to say that what people here were saying was racist, just that racism still exists and does limit opportunities.</p>
<p>@hajkami
i hope you don’t feel offended i was just saying that because of what stupefy had sad in a previous post ;)</p>
<p>chocolate curl- harvard was my “first choice” then because my parents have exalted it all my life. in doing my own research, yale has become my first choice. besides “fairness” doesnt exist in college admissions…I bet you half of the people who apply SCEA are people who are deciding between HYP and would just like to get a head start on their applications. theres nothing wrong with that</p>
<p>@hajikami I’m from a fairly liberal suburb, so no I havent experienced much racism here. I know it exists in rural areas, especiall south and midwest. and I think that’s sad. America is above all a nation of immigrants, and its strength especially economic is entirely due to its diversity</p>
<p>if fairness doesn’t exist in college admissions then i guess the both of us should stop asking for it as I can’t the change the fact that yale’s EA is nonbinding
and as you can’t change the concept of affirmative action</p>
<p>if yale’s EA was binding, I would still apply. just to let you know that it is my first choice college right now</p>
<p>with the whole binding thing i was referring to those who want to get a head start on their apps ;)</p>
<p>^gotcha :D</p>
<p>good we talked about it :p</p>
<p>but i kinda have a question…going over my supplement again i wondered if the free afternoon is a regular, normal, average free afternoon
or is it a “dream” afternoon?</p>
<p>i know the question is kinda stupid…but i don’t want them to wonder what i was thinking when they read my supplement 
(wow…this whole process is making me paranoid)</p>
<p>^I asked that to a lot of people here and they said not to worry about it. yale doesnt use it as a true admission factor, just to get to know you a bit better
I made it like a fantasy afternoon-if I could do anything, this is what I’d do</p>
<p>I sent out my common app & supplement today!!</p>
<p>lol don’t make that response sound too quixotic or they might be like…duh fuhhh?</p>