<p>yea im from san diego and i took all my transferable classes at mesa college, and also they don’t offer a AS-T for computer science at mesa college as well</p>
<p>I am from san diego, took 11 credits at mira costa while in hs, 2 ap credit exams, took classes in washington for my freshman year and then 33 credits @ sbcc. I tagged ucsb an did the associated degree for transfer in poly sci to Sdsu. I have a plan from my transfer advisor that if I keep the tag gpa with required classes to ucsb and Sdsu for my major, from any of my credits from any school, that are equivalent, I will get the tag and have priority to get into Sdsu. That fact would also apply to anyone in that similar type of situation.</p>
<p>TAG for UC’s and TAG for SDSU are two completely different things. If you took classes anywhere other than at a school in SDSU’s local area, you are not eligible for TAG at SDSU. An ADT does not give you priority into the school you apply for, only into the CSU system. If you have not taken any classes at a local SDSU school (Mira Costa does not count unless CSUSM does not offer your major) and you did not list a San Diego address, you are not eligible for SDSU TAG or local residence preference.</p>
<p>You can tag 100%sdsu, for atleast ccc as far north at Santa Barbara cc, because i go there and have the paper that says so and its on their website. You can tag Sdsu whether you live in sd or not. I’m not certain of other ccc more north, but if you check on their websites and it should tell you details and look at their transfer academy link or atleast see how it is detailed on the sbcc transfer academy link if you want more info. </p>
<p>So for those who say that you have to take classes in the local area only is incorrect. Please check with your local ccc, but I know for a fact that statement is incorrect…</p>
<p>An ADT is only relevant in the CSU system- correct; and does give you an advantage over people transferring in without one. </p>
<p>Please check facts before listening to some comments on this website, and get worried about if you can or should have done something to get In. Some people’s comments are a little inaccurate.</p>
<p>Good luck to everyone!!</p>
<p>@5nonnegotiables I don’t see SDSU listed on the SBCC Transfer Academy website as having a TAG agreement. So if you found a loophole that guarantees admission to out-of-area students, I bet there are a TON of people here who would love to know what it is! ;)</p>
<p><a href=“Transfer Admission Guarantee (TAG) - Santa Barbara City College”>http://www.sbcc.edu/transferacademy/TAG.php</a></p>
<p>This is straight from the SDSU website:
Local Transfer Admission Guarantee (TAG)</p>
<p>If you apply to a major covered by the TAG, you may qualify for guaranteed admission if you: Complete 100% of your transferable units from community colleges in SDSU’s local admission area or complete 100% of your transferable units from Palomar or MiraCosta community colleges and apply for a program that is not offered at CSU San Marcos.
AND if you meet the following five admission eligibility requirements:</p>
<p>60 Units—Complete a minimum of 60 transferable semester (or 90 or more quarter) units by the end of the spring term prior to fall admission. Transferable units are defined as course units that are applicable to a baccalaureate degree.
General Education—Complete a certified package of General Education courses.
Major Preparation—Complete all major preparation courses by the end of the spring term prior to fall admission.
Grade Point Average—Meet and maintain the cumulative GPA required for your major or 2.4, whichever is higher. Your GPA is based on all transferable units attempted.
Prior SDSU Coursework—If applicable, maintain a 2.0 or higher GPA for any SDSU Regular Session, Special Session, Open University or Cross Enrollment coursework. This is in addition to the cumulative GPA listed above.
Get details about SDSU’s Transfer Admission Guarantee (PDF).</p>
<p>All Other Transfer Applicants
All other transfer student applicants will be admitted on a space-available basis and will be ranked on how closely they meet the five requirements above. An additional overall GPA may be required. This GPA is determined based on the applicant pool and may be higher than the GPA required for the major.</p>
<p><a href=“Transfer Students | SDSU”>Transfer Students | SDSU;
<p>You can transfer from any school, however, in order to be covered under the SDSU TAG agreement, you must complete 100% of your transferable classes from a local area school. If you read over this entire thread, you will see plenty of other posters reiterate this. It is important to check anything a transfer counselor says against the official word from SDSU. There are plenty of people who get into SDSU without TAG. I think jimtruong has an excellent chance, even without a TAG agreement, especially since he took prerequisites only offered at SDSU. But I digress, I am unsure of how TAG/ADT works if the CC does not offer the ADT for your major. He very well still could be covered under TAG since he has only taken classes from within the SDSU local area. If someone else can clarify, that would be awesome!</p>
<p>It sounds like if anyone is concerned about their tag or adt, then they need to check with the transfer academy at the ccc where they are going. Check with your transfer advisor, who can get you the paperwork of how the agreement is spelled out, and in my case actually call a counselor at both ucsb and Sdsu while I was in their office to confirm everything, so you are educated on the process specifically to you. It’s a lot of information and can be confusing and if anyone is unclear with all this info floating around, my advice would be to go see your transfer academy and make an appt with your transfer advisor.</p>
<p>Good luck to everyone!!</p>
<p>Good luck to everyone,</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>@joogman23 @brett8</p>
<p>Wait, so both of you mentioned the taking of classes (even though it was approximately 1/4th of the total coursework taken) at a local-area community college as well as San Diego residency may have given you an advantage?</p>
<p>Also, brett8 can you thoroughly explain what this whole “tier 1” “tier 2”… “tier 5” system is? People keep throwing these terms around but I would like someone to precisely clear up what they mean and how this tier system works, and what type of student exactly is in each tier?</p>
<p>So here is my analysis of the situation. Please comment if you think I misunderstood or got any part of it wrong.</p>
<p>Both SDSU admissions and their website (unless both are liars and misleading) indicate only certain majors have an applicable ADT. </p>
<p>Again, please carefully review this link:
<a href=“Transfer Students | SDSU”>Transfer Students | SDSU;
<p>I quote from the link above: “Applicants who earn an Associate in Arts for Transfer or an Associate in Science for Transfer degree (AA-T/AS-T) in one of the following SDSU-approved majors listed below and apply to the appropriate CSUMentor major will be given admission priority.”</p>
<p>There is no Accounting, or Finance, or Real Estate mentioned as equivalent SDSU majors that an ADT can help me with. From my best unerstanding (again, unless both SDSU admissions personnel as well as the above website are misleading) in Business related majors, an ADT could only help me if I were to apply for the Business Administration (General) or Business Administration (Financial Services) major. Is this correct or incorrect. Because honestly, I don’t see how else the above link would make any sense. Think about it. Why would column one mention Business Administration twice and column 2 only mention 2 majors (Business General and Financial Services) if the ADT somehow gave me an advantage to Accounting? If it really gave me an advantage to Accounting, would it not make sense to insert another row in that chart with “Business Administration” on the left hand column and “Business Administration (Accounting)” on the right hand SDSU-equivalent column? </p>
<p>Furthermore on that same page linked above, near the bottom it says: </p>
<p>"Local Transfer Admission Guarantee (TAG)</p>
<p>There is no guaranteed admission under the Transfer Admission Guarantee (TAG) for any major for which there is an SDSU-approved Associate Degree for Transfer (AA-T/AS-T degree)."</p>
<p>Again, correct me if I am wrong, but from my understanding this means that you cannot both have a TAG and an AA-T/AS-T degree. You either have one or the other (or none). </p>
<p>So for example, if you applied for accounting you are either TAG (completed 100% of your units in SDSU’s local area and are guaranteed admission if you met all the minimums) or you are everybody else (with perhaps some slight priorities given to people with residences and some classes taken at SD community colleges, kind of like joogman is). </p>
<p>On the other hand if you applied to Business Administration (General), you are either ADT (meaning you are given priority consideration), or you are everybody else (again, maybe some extra priority is given for residence, or some CC classes taken in local area). However, there is NO TAG whatsoever for Business Administration (General), meaning there is no “guarantee” for anyone who has taken 100% of their requirements at SD local area. </p>
<p>^ Again, I know it is a mouthful, but please verify or dispute what I just said. Is this a fairly accurate picture of the admissions process?</p>
<p>Would it be fair to say that if I had …</p>
<p>A) residence in San Diego
B) taken classes at SD community colleges (though not the majority of them) and completed an ADT
C) Applied for Business Administration (General) major, in which case ADT would give me priority consideration (AS WELL AS AVOIDING THE HORDES OF “GUARANTEED LOCAL TAG” who probably took up nearly all the accounting spots while maintaining a 2.9 GPA + finishing prereqs)</p>
<p>Then perhaps I would’ve had a much better chance of being admitted (+perhaps switching major later on)?</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure the TAG agreement only works for locals in the SDSU area. Earning units from a community college in SDSUs local area is one of the requirements for TAG. There is no debating it. This is what the counselors at the community colleges have been saying as well as their website.</p>
<p>@trsansfersd </p>
<p>I think this is true as well. TAG agreement works only for locals in the SDSU area and only works for those who have finished all the major/GE requirements with the minimum required GPA, and have completed 100% of their community college units in SDSU’s local area. It also only works for majors that don’t accept an Associate Degree for Transfer (AS-T or AA-T or as some people have abbreviated on this thread, “ADT”). This probably means that transfers applying for majors like Accounting out of Area had almost no chance of getting in (since so many spots were taken by “guaranteed locals”), but I’m guessing substantially more transfers outside the local area got accepted into the Business Admin (General) major (although local area applicants may have still gotten a slight advantage based on residence, or taking some comm college classes in SD, just not a “guaranteed” spot). I feel as if I should’ve done the AS-T/AA-T route and simply applied to General Business. That way, I wouldn’t have to put up with having to compete local accounting transfers, many of whom probably got in with GPAs barely above the 2.9 minimum. </p>
<p>Even if SDSU cracks down on “change of majors” (which some people here claim is just scare mongering) after transfers, even with a General Business major, I’d have a lot of flexibility in choosing upper division and elective classes. Nothing that would substantially slow me down from getting CPA requirements, and nothing preventing me from applying to accounting internships. Perhaps its a good idea for me to try this route next year, so I’ll have both priority consideration and less competition (due to no TAG). In the meantime, I can further build up my GPA as well.</p>
<p>@F2014Accounting You are correct, it would indicate that a major either gives ADT candidates priority or has a
TAG agreement. It can’t have both.</p>
<p>If you look at the criteria I posted on the previous page, it says that all over applicants will be ranked based on how closely they meet these 5 criteria. Therefore, someone who has a lower GPA than you could be ranked higher because they more closely meet the criteria (IE took some classes at a local school). In highly popular majors, GPA has very little to do with admission decisions, especially if the majority of applicants are local.</p>
<p>If you look at SDSU’s stats on their website, historically, 70% of new transfer admits have come from the San Diego County while less than 5% are chosen from each other county/area. </p>
<p>This probably won’t clear things up, but as a north county student both my transfer counselors said Sdsu does not offer TAG to people outside their local area which i believe is north of the 52 freeway.</p>
<p>@nthoside This is true, but if CSUSM doesn’t offer your major then you are eligible for the TAG program.</p>
<p>I am a resident and took all classes needed and was still denied so being a resident doesn’t really help :(</p>
<p>@knhofto</p>
<p>Yes, I think what you said seems to be accurate. Just to clarify though, are local residents (meaning those with an address or living in the local SD area) who took some classes given priority consideration over out of area residents even though they do not qualify for TAG? </p>
<p>In other words, (1)TAG applicants get in first (as long as they meet minimum requirements), then </p>
<p>(2)local SD applicants without TAG who fulfilled all the criteria (who completed all of their required classes, GE’s, units, GPA reqs, etc, (but not 100% of them were from CCs in local area, perhaps even a minority of them were, hence no TAG) are given priority (though not really a “guarantee”) </p>
<p>and (3) only after that everybody else? </p>
<p>Did I get the above sequence of priorities correct? That seems to be the only explanation for how joogman may have gotten in and I didn’t. He doesn’t quality for TAG, and Accounting clearly does not accept ADT (which I think explains why someone with a 3.7ish GPA and ADT did not get accepted. The ADT simply didn’t do them any good for Accounting). He simply has local residence address and took 25% of his classes in SD’s local area, which gave him priority (just maybe not the “guaranteed” priority that TAG gave to other locals).</p>
<p>Also, what about AS-T/AA-T majors that do not have a TAG, such as General Business? The website clearly says that AS-T/AA-T do not have “guaranteed admission” for local applicants like TAG majors do. However, lets say an SD resident applies for Business Administration (General) with an AS-T in Business from Grossmont College (a local SD Community College), has all requirements met and a 3.7 GPA. </p>
<p>If another person who is a not an SD resident applies from a community college outside of SD’s local area, also goes for Business Administration (General) with AS-T/AA-T, has all requirements met and a 3.7 GPA. </p>
<p>Both parties have AS-T/AA-T degrees, both are applying for majors that don’t have TAG for locals. However, does the SD local with the AS-T/AA-T have an advantage over the out-of-area applicant (who also has AS-T/AA-T, same major, same GPA, same reqs fulfilled)? Would the SD applicant still have slight priority in this case?</p>
<p>@nthoside</p>
<p>I believe this link has a list of all the majors that qualify for TAG for those who took their classes at Palomar and Miracosta colleges.</p>
<p><a href=“Transfer Students | SDSU”>Transfer Students | SDSU;
<p>Major - Economics with a specialization in quantitative analysis
Decision - DENIED
Location - Temecula, CA All units taken at Palomar College in San Marcos
GPA - 3.52
All General Ed and Pre-major requirements completed</p>
<p>I think it’s utterly ridiculous that someone on this thread earlier posted they got accepted as an Econ major with a 2.8 GPA. I guess working hard and getting good grades doesn’t matter, just where you live matters. I live an hour away from SDSU and the only CSU closer is San Marcos. Do I not have an option where to go? Getting better grades doesn’t give me an option where to go? Unbelievable. I’ve even completed Calc 2, 3, linear algebra, and differential equations and still have a 3.52 and that’s apparently not good enough.</p>
<p>SDSU was my backup to UCSD but now I’m pretty scared since I haven’t heard back from UCSD yet and I would think that UCSD would be much harder to get into.</p>
<p>Do you guys think I would have success appealing? The only thing I think that could be considered besides my decent GPA and relative closeness to San Diego is that my major is specific and isn’t offered at CSUSM. Economics is offered but not with the specialization in quantitative analysis. Then I could be considered a TAG right? What do you guys think?</p>
<p>did anyone with a Sociology major get a reply yet???</p>
<p>@blondie1967 there’s never any harm in appealing. I’ve heard that it’s always good to try and appeal (with the help of your counselor) if your stats all meet the standard. </p>
<p>So who’s going to open house this Saturday? I’d like to go but I haven’t found out my status yet so it’s kinda weird just in case I didn’t get in lol.</p>
<p>Also, can you guys post whether or not you have earned the ADT when you post your stats on here? I’m curious about when ADT decisions will roll out and will be posted on this thread. Thanks! April 1 seems so far away…</p>