<p>What'd you get?</p>
<p>Arachnotron--</p>
<p>What you should have asked is...</p>
<p>How many research papers have you gotten published in professional journals? (3)
How many national science awards have you won? (2)
How many years of University Internships have you completed? (3)
How many editorials have you written for national newspapers? (1)
How many national conferences have you been a keynote
speaker? (2)</p>
<p>Then...
What is your SAT? </p>
<p>See how meaningless that question becomes?</p>
<p>How many research papers have you gotten published in professional journals? (1)
How many national science awards have you won? (numerous)
How many years of University Internships have you completed? (4)
How many editorials have you written for national newspapers? (0)
How many national conferences have you been a keynote speaker? (numerous)</p>
<p>Then...
What is your SAT? I'm just afraid it's so low my application wouldnt even get to the dean or something ><</p>
<p>Don't be mad at me.</p>
<p>This is the kind of competition you will face at the top-tier
universities - you can dismiss it, or deal with it.</p>
<p>Way to avoid the question.</p>
<p>I prefer the 2400 SAT for personal reasons, but taking such s low SAT II score with it might make the 2400 SAT look less magical, so for practical reasons I would go with the 2400 SAT IIs. Oh yea, btw, I've heard that SAT scores are taken first to weed out the competition, so the interrogation would begin with what is your SAT score before all the other questions are asked. Just saying.</p>
<p>Arachnotron, 1234d</p>
<p>Before I tell you my SAT score you tell me, with my credentials, the minimum score I need to get in P,Y or H?
a)1950 b)2190 c)2320 d)2400</p>
<p>I'll add that I go to a very strong high school, have taken the most difficult track, and have also co-authored (with my professor and a graduate student) a research grant for $73,000.</p>
<p>Remember, "big picture" thinking here. We could very well be facing one another for the final spot in a top-tie university.</p>
<p>This is fun!</p>
<p>
<p>It's that simple.
- Do you think that by discussing this, we are implying that these small details are IMPORTANT? No; we're just discussing, on a forum dedicated to standardized test scores, standardized test scores.</p>
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<li> Nice username.</li>
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<p>Poseur,</p>
<p>Huh?</p>
<p>Instead of making fun of each others' users, why don't you just appreciate mine? takes the tension away from this meaningless argument.</p>
<p>Dareallycoolguy0 --</p>
<p>Finally, someone who knows the difference bewteen content and process.</p>
<p>You are clearly someone who will get into anywhere you want.</p>
<p>
<p>Huh?
You accused us of having "tunnel vision." I said that by discussing standardized test scores, we were not, in the least, implying that they were all that were important; therefore, your assumption was inaccurate.</p>
<p>I think standardized test are very important and well worth discussing. And those that score high deserve praise.</p>
<p>My point is that after a certain threshold the SAT becomes irrelevant and other factors will "make it or break it" for all of us.</p>
<p>I apologize if I offended you.</p>
<p>
[QUOTE]
Arachnotron, 1234d</p>
<p>Before I tell you my SAT score you tell me, with my credentials, the minimum score I need to get in P,Y or H?
a)1950 b)2190 c)2320 d)2400</p>
<p>I'll add that I go to a very strong high school, have taken the most difficult track, and have also co-authored (with my professor and a graduate student) a research grant for $73,000.</p>
<p>Remember, "big picture" thinking here. We could very well be facing one another for the final spot in a top-tie university.</p>
<p>This is fun!
[/QUOTE]
</p>
<p>I'd say you'd be fine with the 2190. Now what did you get?</p>
<p>SAT I
...2230...</p>
<p>SAT II
800 Math 2
800 Chem
720 Latin</p>
<p>Not that it really matters :)</p>
<p>
<p>What you should have asked is...</p>
<p>How many research papers have you gotten published in professional journals? (3) How many national science awards have you won? (2) How many years of University Internships have you completed? (3) How many editorials have you written for national newspapers? (1) How many national conferences have you been a keynote speaker? (2)</p>
<p>Then... What is your SAT?</p>
<p>See how meaningless that question becomes?
</p>
<p>Those are really only important if you are competing with other kids from other strong high schools, because most of those require opportunities not available to kids in rural areas, or at weak schools. Connections help with these, money helps, the proximity to a research university helps. Not all kids have these, and thus, how can they be expected to accomplish them? They aren't the end all you make them out to be.</p>
<p>Edit: Am I seeing the big picture here, by noticing that socioeconomic factors and location can influence accomplishment? It didn't get me into Stanford.</p>
<p>My family has little money, I made all the connections myself, I travel over an hour by bus to get to the University for my summer internships, and my school has students from all over the city, representing all economic classes. </p>
<p>With the internet, the world is a global village where anyone - including me - can make his/her own opportunities. Remember, all you need is a pencil and paper to write the next great American novel.</p>
<p>My motto in life--
No excuses given, none accepted.</p>
<p>By the way, I'm sorry you didn't get into Stanford if it was your dream school. How did you do on your other choices?</p>
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<p>Coincidentally, I'm halfway through one. Also, while what you have done is commendable, it doesn't necessarily apply to the majority of cases, and, as you pointed out yourself, you are still in a city where public transportation exists. I'm in a town of 2000 (with a school district size of 10,000). We have no public transportation, and aren't a city. Additionally, I think you are over emphasizing a bit the capacity of the internet.</p>
<p>I heard that colleges more or less consider your SAT I score and all of your SAT II scores the same.</p>
<p>Personally, I got 2380 on my SAT I but haven't taken any SAT II's yet (only a sophomore).. but I am preparing for the SAT II Math Level II, and I have to say that SAT II's are, in general, MUCH easier than the SAT I.. such as physics, math II, etc. There are a few tests that are hard to get 800's on (math I, lit, etc.).. but in general, the SAT I is much more difficult.. and should thus be counted more. Not that it is..</p>
<p>^ SAT1 is harder to do well in, but that doesn't make it more useful as a predictor of success (and hence be "counted more"). ceteris paribus, I'm quite certain that someone who gets 2400SAT1 and 1500SAT2 will do worse in college than someone else who gets 1500SAT1 and 2400SAT2.... just my 2 cents</p>