<p>Hi,</p>
<p>here's what we have, please comment on reach vs match vs safe and if we're missing any lacs. We can afford ED.</p>
<p>strong ecs
will have around 10 ap classes by graduation</p>
<p>far reach:
Wesleyan
Northwestern
brown
columbia</p>
<p>reach:
cornell
washington</p>
<p>match:
emory
univ michigan
mcgill
reed</p>
<p>safe:
tulane
northeastern
suny geneseo
rice
univ vermont
nyu (not stern)</p>
<p>Those schools look good, but some are definitely in the wrong category. </p>
<p>switch wesleyan and cornell</p>
<p>mcgill is a reach</p>
<p>rice is probably a reach</p>
<p>nyu is a match</p>
<p>What’s washington? WUSTL, university of washington, something else?</p>
<p>NYU, Tulane = Match
Rice = reach
Northeastern closer to a match
Emory and Michigan Closer to reach.</p>
<p>thanks for the feedback:
u of michigan - looks like a match based on naviance.
northeastern - stronger than 90% of all accepted applicants based on naviance, very large sample size
rice - very small naviance sample size, thanks for the feedback
washington = wustl</p>
<p>chance for ed at any of the far reaches? seems like cornell would be the best bet…</p>
<p>thinking about a 2nd try for the sats (proctored practice test was 2250) but it concerned it may create a larger skew btw gpa and sat.</p>
<p>no way to edit posts here after a certain amount of time?</p>
<p>I would say you’d have a fair shot at ED at the far reaches. ED would probably bring them down to reach, and Cornell is the best bet percentage wise I think.</p>
<p>Did you really call rice and NYU safties <em>sigh</em></p>
<p>A safety is a school you are 100% sure you can get into. Even if your in the ranges got NYU and rice, it does not guarantee your acceptance.</p>
<p>Other than some poorly thought out categories, I think your list is pretty good.</p>
<p>thanks for the feedback on nyu and rice. From our school, 19 people have been accepted at nyu (using naviance) with the same or weaker credentials, 1 person was rejected with stronger credentials. so let’s call it a 95% chance. also, at this particular school, it’s not possible to take more rigorous classes.</p>
<p>maybe I have the wrong definition of a safe school?</p>
<p>Rice is a reach.</p>
<p>Can you afford NYU? If not, then it is not a safety.</p>
<p>Quietdesparation: since you are using Naviance as your guide, make sure that ED’s are counted as such on there; a lot of schools do not distinguish on Naviance between RD and ED…</p>
<p>As others have said, I think you’ve miscategorized a number of schools. But when all is said and done, it’s probably not a bad list</p>
<p>thanks for all the feedback, I’ve changed the list to incorporate everyone’s feedback. does this look closer? </p>
<p>this was useful as it showed we need to come up with another safe school.</p>
<p>far reach:
Northwestern
brown
columbia
cornell</p>
<p>reach:
Wesleyan
washington
mcgill
rice
emory
univ michigan</p>
<p>match:
reed
nyu (not stern)
tulane
northeastern</p>
<p>safe:
suny geneseo
univ vermont</p>
<p>I think your list is very top heavy… Too many far reach and reaches on the list. Some reaches are really far reach as well (WSTL).</p>
<p>Geneseo is not a safety. More a Match that you hope to get into (very competitive as you know.) You should get in, but can’t count on it as a safety.</p>
<p>You need more appropriate match schools you would like to attend.</p>
<p>thanks for the feedback, any ideas on other schools that fit in with the list?</p>
<p>Perhaps I’m looking at safe schools the wrong way (I note someone else made a similar comment). On naviance, 65 people have applied from our school over the last 3 years, 41 of those have been accepted. There are no rejections for anyone with the same gpa. There are no rejections for anyone with a similar SAT and 2100 is 120 points higher than the avg.</p>
<p>this is not a safe school?</p>
<p>as I mentioned in another post - admissions are getting more competitive each year. As you said - Naviance has data for last 3 years. I would move the averages right and up to discount data from 3 yrs back.</p>
<p>are you sure your son/daughter has done enough research on each of those schools? seeing as you’ve made some pretty extreme errors in labeling categories, it doesn’t seem as of you have more than a cursory idea of what each of those schools are</p>
<p>quietD</p>
<p>A few comments in general --</p>
<p>First, your stats make you difficult to rate. Let’s look at Northwestern. 3.7-2100 probably puts you slightly below the average attending student, but certainly within the range. So, is this school a “Match” because your stats are in the range or a “High Reach” because NU’s overall acceptance rate will very likely be below 20% so someone with your stats statistically has less than a 50% chance of getting in?</p>
<p>This is semantic – however it comes into play because I’d say that Michigan is a clear match for you (not a reach), still, there is a significant chance that you won’t get in (such is life). NB – On your list, Michigan kind of sticks out – it is much larger than any other school on your list and the campus has a very different feel – that’s another story, though.</p>
<p>Tough questions – given that you’re going to be competitive at many top schools, I think you’re taking the right approach in applying to many and mixing in other schools. In any event, your application is likely to come down to ECs, Recommendations, Essays, what you’re studying, whether you have hooks and intangibles.</p>
<p>Naviance – You’ve questioned people’s advice here because of Naviance data you have. Ok, I guess, but if you want to rely on Naviance for your list, why even ask here?</p>
<p>Overall – as I said before, I think your list looks good. I might quibble about how you’ve classed a few (but again, this may be semantic).</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
<p>thanks z, I take your point on northwestern (for example) and it bears thought. I guess it depends if northwestern is rejecting lots and lots of candidates with similar credentials or are most of the candidates rejected not as strong? hard to know but it bears real thought. </p>
<p>I also take your point on naviance, but we’re at the beginning of the search and it was very useful to get people’s input. I don’t know how much to rely on naviance and there’s been some great input on increasing competitiveness and looking at er vs ed applicants (which I haven’t figured out how to do).</p>
<p>my sense is that if we go ED on a reach school, apply to the rest, RD, there is close to 100% probability of at least 1 admit and a very high probability of 3 schools which I think is a pretty good place to be.</p>
<p>thanks again for your well thought out reply.</p>
<p>Not sure what your intended major is, but I would think SUNY Geneseo a match, not a safety, a safety SUNY might be Albany or New Paltz but all SUNY’s are harder to get into year by year. You might also look at schools like Pitt and Delaware, U Mass and U Conn.</p>
<p>I agree that NYU and Reed are both statistical matches (note that stats are only 20% of Reed admission criteria), but it’s hard to imagine two more opposite-ends-of-the-universe college experiences. Reed is small and bucolic on the edge of Portland with first-name professors and a nature preserve in the middle of campus, NYU is a huge bureaucracy in the middle of Manhattan with no traditional campus (coincidentally our two daughters attended these schools). The four years will pass in a flash, but I can imagine a student who likes one environment might detest the other. But if he has visited and likes both, all the better! :)</p>
<p>"… there is close to 100% probability of at least 1 admit and a very high probability of 3 schools …"</p>
<p>Simply by the numbers, when applying to 10 schools each with a 50% chance, there’s a one-in-a-thousand chance of rejection by all. :)</p>