94% entering in-state freshman admitted under Top Ten Rule?

<p>I took a Campus Visit trip with my son this past week to UT-Austin. Unless I heard it wrong, the admissions official stated that 94% of the in-state freshman entering in the fall of 2009 were admitted under the top 10 rule. I believe that this is up from 81% the year before. He further stated that they expect this percentage to climb a couple of points for the class entering in the fall of 2010! Has anyone else heard similar stats?</p>

<p>I haven’t seen it confirmed, but if that’s the case it’s likely that it will not be possible for non-top-ten students to be admitted next year.</p>

<p>Thank Zeus I got in this year!</p>

<p>The 94% figure given by the tour guide seems extremely inflated. During the latest legislative battle over changing the Top Ten Percent Rule this past May, Representative Dan Branch and others cited that UT’s 2009 Fall class would consist of 86% admitted under the Top Ten Rule. Branch worked closely with President Powers on the House compromise bill, so I would think that the 86% number he gave to sway his colleagues was accurate.</p>

<p>This Dallas Morning News article cites the 86% 2009 admittance number:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-top10_31tex.ART.State.Edition1.512385e.html[/url]”>http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-top10_31tex.ART.State.Edition1.512385e.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>TXEX86. I hope that your figures are closer to reality. It is hard to accept that with +2200 SATs, probable NMF status, excellent EC’s, and a rank in the second decile of a highly competitive DFW HS, my son has a higher chance to be admitted to any public University in the nation OOS rather than his flagship State U. with in-state status.</p>

<p>Formertarheel, I can understand your frustration given your son’s credentials. I strongly believe that 86% is correct for 2009. However, it would not surprise me if the 2010 class has over 90% admitted under Top Ten given how the total number of students admitted has trended downward the past few years. Your son may want to explore majors that are less difficult to get accepted into, such as Liberal Arts, and eschew applying to more competitive majors (admittance based on class rank) such as Business, so that he can have a more favorable chance of being admitted. He can always internally transfer to a different major after his freshman year.</p>

<p>We are touring tomorrow. I’ll make a point to listen up. Or just ask.</p>

<p>Ds is in the same place. SAT over 2200, will graduate with a dozen or more AP classes, MN Commended and Natl Hisp Scholar, but not top 10% so too bad for him, I guess.</p>

<p>Wait, I am mixed up. Could this be it? </p>

<p>Of “the Texas kids who decided to attend this fall 2009,” 94% were Texas kids admitted under the top 10% rule and 6% were Texas kids admitted holistically admitted holistically?</p>

<p>Could these 94% kids could be 86% of the total freshman class - and the other 14% of the total freshmen class are the Texas kids admitted holistically, the OOS kids admitted holistically, and the international kids admitted holistically. ?</p>

<p>It will help when UT reports actual numbers on the make up of the freshman class.</p>

<p>That could be it. The OOS kids and International kids need to be factored in.</p>

<p>Unfortunately that does seem to explain the bridge between the 86% and 94% figures. If only 6% of the in-state students admitted this coming year are from the holistic evaluation pool (non-top 10) - the only numbers that may get you in are a 95 MPH fastball or a sub 4.3 40.</p>

<p>The numbers they usually quote don’t include OOS kids because they compete for a seperate slate of spaces entirely from the in-state kids. They have certain positions reserved for them.</p>

<p>I don’t believe the 86% cited for Fall 2009 would be out of the total enrolled freshmen class. Take last year for example:</p>

<p>Fall 2008 enrolled numbers:</p>

<h2>Total enrolled: 6715</h2>

<p>Total Texas high school graduates enrolled: 6322</p>

<p>Top Ten % enrolled: 5114 (81%)</p>

<h2>Non-Top Ten % enrolled: 1208 (19%)</h2>

<p>OOS/Foreign students enrolled: 393 </p>

<p>The 81% figure for Fall 2008 cited in a previous post comes from those actually enrolled at UT under Top Ten. So, it seems that the 86% figure cited during the Legislature’s latest session would be pretty close to the Top Ten freshmen enrollment % for this fall. </p>

<p>I have a hard time believing that if 94% of the entire freshmen class was to be enrolled under Top Ten this Fall that that number would not have been used by Senator Shapiro and Representative Branch in the hopes that Top Ten would have been amended even further this past Legislative session. They cited 86% repeatedly in reference to UT’s Top Ten enrollment. </p>

<p>UT has an pretty good idea how many Top Ten students there are each year in the state. The TEA supplies them with this info. It is my understanding that UT comes up with a total enrollment number for each freshmen class prior to offering admission, broken down by Top Ten, non-Top Ten, and OOS/Foreign. Perhaps that 94% quoted is out of the 86% they “budgeted” for Top Ten enrollment. </p>

<p>Page 9 in the link below has a good summary of enrollment since Top Ten’s inception: </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/HB588-Report11.pdf[/url]”>http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/research/HB588-Report11.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>FWIW, the Admissions Office said that more out of staters were admitted for this year. (The Admissions Office uses UT students from the out of state students assn to call admitted out of state h.s. seniors to see if they have any questions.) </p>

<p>Don’t know if this lead to more out of state enrollees.</p>

<p>OK, I asked in this morning’s info session how many kids in this fall’s freshman class were admitted under the top 10% rule, and she said 85%. Take it for what it’s worth.</p>

<p>Also, she said they admitted 2,000 OOS kids, and 600 are coming.</p>

<p>Youdon’tsay, thanks for asking. Hopefully your speaker was more informed than the one in our program. Good luck to your son!</p>

<p>"OK, I asked in this morning’s info session how many kids in this fall’s freshman class were admitted under the top 10% rule, and she said 85%. Take it for what it’s worth.</p>

<p>Also, she said they admitted 2,000 OOS kids, and 600 are coming."</p>

<p>Any idea if the 1400 spots from OOS who declined were given to instate or secondar OOS kids??</p>

<p>I didn’t ask, but I doubt it. Projecting yield is an art and science, and they know that not everyone offered a spot will take it. They compensate for a less-than-100% yield by accepting more kids than they really want.</p>