<p>I was just thinking about medical school and stuff. I just got this idea. Can anyone tell me if it's good or not. Thanks </p>
<p>What people should do is to finish high school then go on to a state school so that the tuition will be less. Get a degree there then transfer to a better college for medical school.</p>
<p>Is this a good idea? I want to go into medicine. I am a smart student, but I don't want to have to pay so much for schools like Yale or John Hopkins. Would this be a good plan for me. Thanks</p>
<p>that could potentially backfire on u big time. You may be accepted as a transfer but there may be an issue with the pre-med credits u r carrying over because the courses at a pre-med and yale r in no way equivelant to many state schools. That plus, lets say they do transfer out, ur GPA may totally crash in a school like johns hopkins or yale because its just so diff. </p>
<p>Why do that anyway, excel in a state school, be high in ur class, get a greta GPA, do well on the MCAT and you wont have a problem. Im pretty sure theres also rules about when u can transfer and stuff. I dont think u can just decide to transfer senior year of undergrad. Why would u, by that time, you might have found yourself lifelong friends. You gotta think about this stuff logically and not just in terms of medical school.</p>
<p>THE absolute worst thing you can do. I don't get your assumptions- the name of the undergrad school won't get you into a med school. </p>
<p>Also, why would you want to give up the environment, relations, and overall experience you've had at a state school just to risk it all at something that may hinder your chances of getting into medical school?</p>
<p>dude go to a state school...excel be at the top of ur class, do well on the MCATs have great EC's and med shcools will take u</p>
<p>if u go to a JH or Yale, ur gonna be competing with insanely intelligent and cut-throat pre-meds, no med school can accept all pre-meds from JH so its gonna be tough, stick with the state school</p>
<p>Food for thought-My cousin is successful vascular sugeron and has a chair at Mt. Sinai medical center in NYC. He graduated from CUNY Queens college (City University of New York)</p>
<p>i say take a school like yale or hopkins...you will be competing with insanely smart people but competition is part of life. and if you do premed in hopkins, you will probably learn alot more and have a lot more educational experiences, enabling you to do even better on your mcat.</p>
<p>A similar situation happened to me. I used to live in a town (state school) that was not so "bright" exactly and i was one of the smartest people there...but then i moved to a different town (hopkins/yale) which was "smart" and found that there was so much competition that i had to do double the work just to have a rank in the top 30. Even though my rank was higher in the other school, i am happy that i went to the new n more competitive school because i feel that i got a lot more out of it and that i am overall smarter than i would have been if i stayed in my old town.</p>
<p>it all depends on what you want...do you want to go to a top school and compete with the top people and get a great education and experience?.....or do you want to go to a state school, compete with people who i think are probably not even comparable to those in hopkins or yale and just get a high gpa?</p>
<p>go to the best school u can get into and get the best education you can get, not some secondary education at some state school....unless the state schools your best...which i doubt.....</p>
<p>well ya i agree with study hard, but if i ahd to choose between state school and JH, based upon my grades and how i work, id go to a state school where i know id stand out.</p>
<p>In this conversation, I detect a very strong presumption that you will actually get higher grades at a state school than at a private school like Yale or JHU. </p>
<p>I find that basic assumption to be highly questionable. The fact is, private schools, especially the top Ivies like Yale, are far less loathe to hand out lots of bad grades than the public schools are. This ties into the discussions of grade inflation. Case in point - I would argue that Berkeley and, say, Northwestern have roughly the same quality of student body, yet the fact is, Northwestern tends to give out higher grades on average.</p>
<p>The upshot is that you may end up with LOWER grades by going to a state school than you would have had by going to an elite private school. Sure, you might be competing against a lower-quality group of students. But on the other hand, public schools tend to hand out lower grades, These are countervailing forces and whichever one happens to be stronger for a particular school and a particular individual is an empirical question. The point is, you should never presume that you will get higher grades just because you go to a lesser school. In many cases, you might end up with LOWER grades by going to that lesser school.</p>
<p>And to make matters worse, if you go to a bottom tier school like Cal State Where the Hell Am I, you'll be hurt even if you get spectacular grades.</p>
<p>State schools offer just as good of an education as Ivy. One person in this thread hinted that its easy to be at the top of ones class at a state school. There are tons of highly intelligent kids who go to state schools on scholarships, and alot go there because they were slackers in high school, and even more because they realize that harvard isnt worth 40k a year</p>
<p>It's not about 'hating' the state schools as in realizing their limitations, particularly when it comes to the issue of grade inflation/deflation. The fact is, grade deflation hurts when it comes to med-school admissions, and state schools tend to be grade-deflated. </p>
<p>Look, you might say that that's unfair to the state school students. Yeah, I agree with you. But fair or not fair, that's how the game is played. Like it or not, med-school admissions are unfairly tilted against those schools that practice grade deflation, which often means the state schools. That's not a matter of 'hating' the state schools as in realizing the tilt in the game.</p>
<p>you gotta also understand that while some state schools do practice grade deflation many such as Univ of Michigan, UVA, UNC-chapel hill, SUNY Stony Brook, UCONN, are all schools that are very successful when it comes to sending students to medical school. So you have to be careful of which state school you are talking about. </p>
<p>Besides if you succeed anywhere you'll be fine.</p>
<p>So I guess it depends on whether you think that a 60% premed placement rate (as opposed to the national average of ~50%) is what you would call 'very successful'. </p>
<p>Speaking for myself, I would say that a very successful placement rate would be something like ~90%, as demonstrated by places like Harvard and Princeton.</p>
<p>one again, sakky doesnt look at the big picture</p>
<p>ive been to info sessions at all those schools...the drop out rate of pre-meds at harvard and princeton is astronomical plus their review board keeps their % rates high. HOWEVER at Univ of Mich and UVA, they have low pre-med drop rates and dont have review boards. Either way, both schools will have practically similar % rates.</p>
<p>Obviously Harvard and princeton have 90% placement rates.. the students in those universities are pretty bright, they have to be, to get in... Dont u think?</p>
<p>the HP rates are so high because they have review boards that choose who and who wont get their letter of rec, those who get the letters of rec can apply and will most likely get in. This is why for those ivies, the % are so high, they dont tell u how mnay pre-meds there actually were in the program before the review board.</p>
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<p>ive been to info sessions at all those schools...the drop out rate of pre-meds at harvard and princeton is astronomical plus their review board keeps their % rates high.
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<p>And once again, let me repeat. THERE IS NO REVIEW BOARD AT HARVARD AND PRINCETON that chooses who will and won't get the letter of rec. How many times do I have to say it? If you are so sure that this exists, perhaps you can provide a link that proves that such a review board that bars bad candidates from applying actually exists. </p>
<p>So who's not looking at the big picture now?</p>