A Senior Member's Ode to College Confidential

<p>Well, a journey of 2 years is all over for me, and for most of us that in the (high school) graduating class of 2007. I was accepted at every college I applied to: Harvard, Yale, UChicago, and Georgetown. After some financial aid haggling (suggested by CCers) I am headed to New Haven, CT next year, and I couldn't be more excited to attend Yale. But let's get to the point: up to literally the last hour before I finally made my decision, I was getting help from CCers. I absolutely could NOT have done any it without help from the many knowledgable people here.
There are certainly people in this forum from all walks of life: former admissions counselors, undergarduate students, and many scared high schoolers around the globe. Then there was me. I go to a public school in rural Illinois that has, to my knowledge, NEVER sent a student to an Ivy League school as an undergad. Our town has crime and major drug issues, and the guidance counselors have to deal with social and emotional issues in students more than college. The school was on the state academic watch list due to low test scores (we had an ACT average of about 19). We also have money issues; our textbooks are falling apart and teachers that retire are often not replaced. There were threats about the state government taking over our school if our class did not do better on the Prairie State exam. Occasionally someone would sneak into Northwestern or Notre Dame, but quite frankly my guidance department had no idea what was going on when it came to admissions at this level. Community college, if any college at all, is the most popular path here.
I began my college search mostly unguided, but happened to stumble upon collegeconfidential.com. I had never even considered Ivy caliber schools as an option. I didn't know the first thing about financial aid, and I was slow to become the 3rd person in the entire school who knew what an SAT II was. I read thread after thread here, slowly gaining knowledge about the dos and don'ts of the search process, the application, and interviews. Because I had the luck to happen upon this forum early, I was able to discern the best way to prepare for tests, especially the "Ziggy method" for the SAT and ACT, and most importantly which practice tests were the best preparation. After getting the best test scores my school had seen in a long time due in large part to this forum, I knew I had a chance to break into the most elite schools in the country. With help from CCers, I planned a summer road trip to visit schools on the East Coast that appealed to me, and interviewed on-campus at each stop.
It was CollegeConfidential that first put the idea of self-studying an AP test in my head, and I used CCers advice on what study books to use on my way to a 5 on the AP U.S. Government and Politics exam. My school only offers 6 AP classes, and before CC, I did not know that there were more than that, or the standards for what constitutes a good score in the admissions world. My classmates thought I was crazy, but that test would play a big part in bringing out my academic interests on the application.
On the application itself, I know I would have absolutely bombed the essays without the help I got from both CC and the Harry Bauld book on college essays, which was of course recommended by CCers. Without them, I would have never thought of adding a sheet of more in-depth extracurricular information, I would have never contemplated whether to put down a prospective major or not, and I would have never questioned the minute implications of every piece of information you provide the college.
In the elite college admissions world, people talk a lot about getting kids from diverse backgrounds, whether that be racially, regionally, or socioeconomically. Whether you agree with it or not, it is in search of these types of kids that Harvard and other schools scrapped Early Action and Early Decision, two terms I had never heard before I first logged on here.<br>
Nobody from any of these schools makes a recruiting trip to my high school or any school like it, and often the guidance departments at schools such as mine do more harm than good as far as informing the kids who could make it. One of the smartest kids in my class thought he was going to apply to Berkeley, JHU, and other top schools. Until he found out that SAT IIs were required, and it was too late to take them. Other kids missed the EA date for UChicago because they didn't even know about Early Action or its potential benefits. Others in the class below mine visited Northwestern, then immediately rejected the idea of even applying because they "couldn't afford $45,000 a year", knowing nothing of financial aid. Even the kids who do "research" colleges here simply pick up a USNews at Wal-Mart and take it as the word of God.
In short, I never would have been able to apply or attend an elite college without the help of the College Confidential community. CCers don't know everything or get everything right, but for those in the ghetto, the boondocks, in towns small enough to have more dogs than people, or kids anywhere with inept guidance counselors, College Confidential can be an instrumental source in overcoming disadvantages and increasing opportunities. I want to say, in all seriousness, that much more than anyone else, the vigilant commenters of CC have helped me realize my wildest dreams. </p>

<p>Thanks, College Confidential!</p>

<p>Awww, thank you. I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.</p>

<p>This is a terrific post. Thanks for taking the time to summerize your journey.
Good things do happen to people and I am very happy for you. Are school is in a very similar situation and it makes it very hard. Best of luck to you!</p>

<p>Heh, how nice.</p>

<p>My high school counselors are like yours. My school isn't horrible, but nobody goes off to the top schools. The counselors guide students either toward unknown state schools or community college. I wasn't informed about SAT IIs until a few months into my junior year, and I have a few friends who didn't find out that they're required for UCs until recently (many past the deadline to sign up). They don't talk to us about doing passion-based ECs, or recommendations, or awards. They don't alert us about scholarships or other opportunities. So, like you, I've found a lot of value in CC. We'll have to see how far that value takes me in next years admissions! =D</p>

<p>Thanks for taking the time to show your appreciation, too. =)</p>

<p>Wow Drummerdude,</p>

<p>Congratulations on deciding to attend Yale. I glad that the money part worked out and I hope that you have an amazing experience in New Haven. I can see this posting has shown how much you have grown over the 2 years that you have been on CC (I know that we bumped heads on a thread or 2 in your early days). </p>

<p>So as you embark on this new exciting journey to live out your wildest dreams, I hope that you come back and post on the boards (let us know how its going at Yale) and pay it forward so that you can let the next kid in rural town USA know that this could happen for them too.</p>

<p>All the best!!</p>

<p>S</p>

<p>Congratulations! Thanks for taking the time to describe your journey and to express appreciation to CC. Your post warmed my heart. I hope you'll drop us a line now and then from New Haven. That would be nice encouragement to others who come from places that aren't that sophisticated about college admissions.</p>

<p>This needs to be a featured thread. Thanks alot!</p>

<p>Awesome, just Awesome! Wishing you every success at Yale, Drummerdude.</p>

<p>That really IS a great story.. congrats drummerdude!</p>

<p>But what you've said hits a chord of a different kind, too. I do not think I know anybody at my school who has not at least heard of College Confidential (which may or may not be somewhat associated with my school's successes college-wise), even though no one else frequents this site or posts on it very often. I learned of the reason Harvard and Princeton dropped their early programs (unfair/unknown to the less advantaged of college-bound students) through CC, and some people here are still under the impression that that is not the true reason. No one here feels as if we are really a part of an awesome educational district, mostly because it's the only educational district we've ever known, but those of us who get to hear from students such as yourself, drummerdude, get to learn of the existence of school systems far ours behind in academic progress, when we would have otherwise considered our own merely the American average. That is pretty depressing, but I am really glad to hear another story of someone who has triumphed the such setbacks.</p>

<p>Congrats again! I consider finding College Confidential a blessing myself, though I am unsure if I could have put to to as great a use as yourself, drummerdude.</p>

<p>Congratulations and much success.</p>

<p>Drummerdude,
I echo every one of your comments and thank you's to cc'ers. My S and you are in a very similar environment. He too was accepted to Yale, as well as Duke, Vanderbilt and Notre Dame. I cannot state how grateful I am to cc for all the advice and recommendations I read over the last 18 months.</p>

<p>We are in boonie Indiana, a small rural poor school. 3 AP's and I'm positive no one else knows about cc. The only person to attend, or apply, previously to an Ivy was a recruited athlete in track.</p>

<p>The GC told the class not to worry about SAT II's; they didn't matter. She refused to write a school profile, stating "no one looks at them and they don't matter." At financial aid meetings, completing the Profile was never mentioned. EA-never discussed. Ditto,ditto,ditto.</p>

<p>Again, thanks to everyone for their help. I don't think he'd have the same choices without the time I spent on this forum.</p>

<p>Great post - when D is done with her journey I had thought of doing the very same thing, but you've said it all! </p>

<p>Our first post to request the assistance of the amazingly knowledgable people on this site was labeled "Daughter confused, parents clueless". We are much less confused and clueless due to the help of the people of CC. When I tell people about CC, I always add, "You won't believe these people, they know everything!!". </p>

<p>D's mediocre public high school (only one in our town of 25,000) has TWO APs and one is so bad there is no reason to take it. They try, but don't really know much outside the realm of the technical college, the local college, and the two large state Us. CC has been our counselor, and we couldn't have asked for a better one!</p>

<p>Thanks for sharing your story, DD - we all appreciate knowing that the work done here, especially by our volunteer mods, has helped someone achieve an important goal. Congrats on your acceptances, and good luck in New Haven!</p>

<p>Congratulations! I've very curious about what the "Ziggy Method" is. Could you please post information or a link?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>Could someone repeat the advice or point me to the thread (because the advanced search is not advanced enough) in which this paragraph is relevant:</p>

<p>"I know I would have absolutely bombed the essays without the help I got from both CC and the Harry Bauld book on college essays, which was of course recommended by CCers. Without them, I would have never thought of adding a sheet of more in-depth extracurricular information, I would have never contemplated whether to put down a prospective major or not, and I would have never questioned the minute implications of every piece of information you provide the college."</p>

<p>Wow congrats to you drummerdude! :)</p>

<p>My story sounds almost exactly like your's! I go to a poor, underperforming public high school where most people don't even go to college, and with all the help I got from CC I'm heading to an elite school next year. CC's great!</p>

<p>great story. CC is one of the greatest tools out there for any aspiring student. i know I will use it even when I go to college next year. however, the best part is that, even though I was too late into my high school career to truly benefit from this site, I know for a fact that this will help my little brother when he has to begin his trek toward college for sure. thanks alot CC and whoever invented it!</p>

<p>awww...</p>

<p>drummerdude, make us proud at yale! great job!</p>

<p>Congrats drummerdude_07 on your college acceptances and your decision.</p>

<p>Really happy for you and GL on your future :P</p>

<p>hey drummerdude! congrats on yale! i'll be seeing you this fall ;0 but yea i agree wholeheartedly w/what you've mentioned in your post! I was exactly the same way and I just feel entirely blessed to have found this website!!! power to ya!</p>