<p>thanks everyone!</p>
<p>@monydad, that is what i plan to do. to enjoy my time at Gtown. but if you dont mind, can you please elaborate on the “risks involved” in transferring? I’m curious</p>
<p>and cayuga, i really hate you guys for that sarcasm lol. I was beginning to believe it</p>
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<p>I tend to disagree with Monydad. At least in my experience, students who transfer to Cornell often perform wonderfully – socially and academically – once in Ithaca. They seem to really be aware of all of the opportunities that Cornell offers and really take advantage of them. Coincidentally, I am actually a good friend with a Georgetown transfer.</p>
<p>elaboration:</p>
<p>Once people, everyplace, develop a network of friends, they tend to be less friendly to strangers. This is human nature.</p>
<p>Incoming freshmen know nobody, they have a simultaneous, common interest in developing a social network for themselves, so it is a unique time where your whole cohort is open and enthusiastic about meeting new people. Once that’s accomplished they become less open. That’s why in many cases the friends you meet in the freshman dorms are the ones that stay with you the rest of the time, and thereafter.</p>
<p>When you come in as a transfer there is a far smaller cohort available who share your interest in meeting new people. Upperclassmen already are doing their own thing there (with the friends they made freshman year), plus many are scattered off campus. The cohort that actually shares your interest are your fellow transfers, but there are fewer of them than in the freshman situation, plus they are scattered in upperclassman dorms among all those unfriendly people.</p>
<p>D2 was fortunate that she connected with a group of fellow transfers right away, and this has formed the foundation of her social situation, which has been very good. Fortunately. But since the number of transfer students is so much smaller, and diffused, compared to the situation as a freshman, there is a greater risk of not connecting with a good social situation when you come in as a transfer.</p>
<p>IMO.</p>
<p>will they accept all your classes as credits? just because they’re excellent schools does not mean they will accept the credits- not cover the right topics, etc</p>
<p>PS my comment was generic, not specific to Cornell.</p>
<p>I was being serious. I believe that Georgetown provides as good or a better education than Cornell. Cornell is an okay school but is not in the same league as the elite universities like Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Cal Tech, etc., etc. Not even on Duke’s level. It is more of a peer with UVA, UNC and Penn.</p>
<p>Cornell has changed over the years. Don’t let the football affiliation fool you. Cornell is not anything like Harvard! It is a huge school with a large state funded college. It is a place for prestige hogs that don’t have the aptitude to get into elite universities. Like Penn, people generally choose to attend Cornell because they are rejected by the true elites and think that playing football in the same conference with some top schools conveys some cachet. Don’t be fooled. There are better choices out there. Georgetown is one of them (and is equally selective).</p>
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<p>Especially in engineering. You were being serious about that too, right? How about in English? Or fine art? Or human development? Or labor relations? Or economics? Or math? Or horticulture? Or chemistry? Or Asian studies?</p>
<p>You get the point.</p>
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<p>I completely agree that it is more of a peer with Penn and Northwestern and Berkeley than Yale or Princeton. But you have to admit that Cornell generally has better academics than UNC and UVa.</p>
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<p>Not really. But thanks for trying. Have fun flapping your wings through the entirety of the basketball game.</p>
<p>@SJUHawk Post #26</p>
<p>[Academic</a> Ranking of World Universities - 2009](<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp]Academic”>http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2009.jsp)</p>
<p>Cornell is 12th in the ranking of world universities linked to above. Where is Georgetown in the ranking??</p>
<p>Colm, the fact that you let others decide for you which college is the best does not reflect well on your intelligence. I don’t care how it is ranked. I don’t care how good there Hotel and Restaurant Management or their Agriculture Schools are (that is the ugly state school garbage that better colleges stay away from). But if you want to look at other peoples’ opinions (for what little they are worth), look at the Princeton Review that ranks Cornell’s academics an 88 (of 100) compared to Georgetown’s 92. Or look at the selectivity of each:</p>
<p>Cornell:</p>
<p>Selectivity Rank: 98 (100 scale) (Princeton Review)
Academic Rating: 88 (100 scale) (Princeton Review)
Average SAT Score: 1395
Acceptance Rate: 19%</p>
<p>Georgetown:</p>
<p>Selectivity Rank: 98
Academic Rating: 92
Average SAT: 1400
Acceptance Rate: 19%</p>
<p>Clearly, the students at Georgetown are equally competative with Cornell. The atmosphere is different though. Cornell is run like a big mill. It has 14,000 undergrads! Georgetown is half the size and in the nations capital. A perfect setting for traditional education combined with internship work experience. </p>
<p>In all seriousness, how many people have Cornell as their first choice? People go there for the football affiliation. When I meet people that went to Penn or Cornell I think “person with some family money that couldn’t get into a real Ivy.” When I meet people from Georgetown I think “smart and ambitious.” In reality, Cornell and Georgetown are academically peers but with different focuses. There is certainly no reason to pay more money to go to Cornell!</p>
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<p>Football affiliation was nowhere on my radar when I decided to apply to and attend Cornell.</p>
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<p>Okay, you may not choose to care about the prominent ranking of world universities linked to above. I personally tend to discount rankings where schools are in a reasonable range of each other … however, since you refused to answer the question: Georgetown ranks at 303rd. Cornell stands at 12th. This, IMHO, is way out of any reasonable margin of error, even taking into account certain biases (which all rankings have; none are anywhere near perfect). The way you rant against a great and venerable school smacks of jealousy. I have no quarrel with the OP opting for Georgetown if it is a better financial deal – it’s a good school – but it is clearly, in overall terms, not better than Cornell … not even close.</p>
<p>Colm: Where does Cornell rank on the Forbes ranking?</p>
<p>Dewdrops: Do you honestly think anyone believes that you never considered that Cornell is in the Ivy league before making your decision?</p>
<p>SJUHawk – you seem to be “hung up” on the whole Ivy League thing. What’s up with that?</p>
<p>Why don’t you try comparing the two schools in the NRC data, arguably the most academically sound of the rankings.</p>
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<p>um, 30 years ago I dated a football player and as a CAAAN rep I know the 3 players from our area at Cornell -NO ONE goes to Cornell for the Football program except the players! They can’t get fans to go to the games!!! SJU’s line of reasoning is way off base</p>
<p>Prestige is virtually the same, so who honestly cares?
If you want to be an engineer, go to Cornell. International and political studies? Go to Georgetown.</p>
<p>Other than that, they are great schools with differences in location, weather, number of students, kind of students, approach to education, etc.</p>
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<p>What I believe and what others believe about me and my decisions are two completely separate thoughts. </p>
<p>I chose Cornell because of what the school could offer me, not because of (as you say) its football affiliation. I really could care less what you or others think.</p>
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<p>Wow. I guess now would not be a good time to talk about Georgetown’s Nursing School garbage, huh? </p>
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<p>My friends who transferred from Georgetown to Cornell to study such subjects as physics, history, and economics disagreed . But you can keep on calling Georgetown perfect if you want.</p>
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<p>I guess that’s why Cornell has 40% more students receiving Pell Grants than Georgetown on a per 1,000 student basis?</p>
<p>People can express a preference for another school, but they shouldn’t come on a subforum and blatantly insult the entire community, that’s trollish and violates CC TOS in my opinion. Merits aside, of which there are none.</p>
<p>Others who feel likewise should make their thoughts known, as I have.</p>
<p>Cayuga: what do you think about Penn’s nursing program? Obviously Penn is universally ranked ahead of Cornell (although commonly considered the other stepchild of the Ivy League).</p>
<p>Colm: nobody is talking about graduate programs - he is talking about attendeding as an UNDERGRADUATE.</p>
<p>Memphismom: You completely missed the point. Ask someone to explain it to you.</p>
<p>Colm: I looked at your link and it proves my point. Cornell is ranked behind or tied with 11 public universities. The only private university in the top 10 is Stanford. That, alone, shows that Cornell is essentially the same as large state schools. It is tied with Penn State. Cornell is ranked behind Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Washington, Illinois and Minnesota! The University of Pittsburgh is 2 places behind Cornell. This according to the “most academically sound” ranking. </p>
<p>I said before that Cornell is more like UNC and UVA than like Harvard or Yale. It is a lot like Michigan except that Michigan is more selective.</p>