Accepted. Want to Attend. Can't. So transfer?

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<p>Ok, as some of you probably already know, I was accepted to Cornell A&S and but they are not giving me even a cent in financial aid. It has to do with my financial aid eligibility. </p>

<p>My permanent resident status has been approved but I don't have my greencard yet. But I have an email from USCIS stating that my status has been approved. This and an explanation of the circumstances was enough for other colleges such as NYU, Villanova, and Georgetown. They are giving me their maximum possible finaid package. However, Cornell is being very (insert curses). They only accept a greencard as proof. So they told me that my EFC would only 2k but they refuse to give me even a penny because I do not physically have the greencard yet and wont have it by May 1st. </p>

<p>I obviously cannot afford to go to Cornell (because I cannot pull 60k out from my butt every year) so I will be going to Georgetown (McDonough School of Business) this fall. However, I still want to go to Cornell. I know some people will tell me that I should love where I am going, and I will definitely love Gtown because I enjoyed it when I visited. However, I liked Cornell better for its social scene, diversity, research opportunities, its Collegetown, size, and FOOOOOD. And I am very much not a fan of Gtown's ridiculous core requirements. </p>

<p>My greencard will 99% be here before the start of the 2011 academic year so I want to transfer to Cornell, because they will then give me financial aid. </p>

<p>Is it going to be easier/harder to transfer into Cornell for me since I was already accepted once and passed on attending Cornell? Also, what if I want to transfer into AEM? Will that be harder/easier than A&S? Just any tips regarding these things would be GREATYLYYY appreciated.</p>

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<p>Yes. Provided you do well. Cornell likes to accept transfer students from other top schools. </p>

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<p>Both are probably of similar difficulty to transfer into. That said, they are probably the hardest programs to transfer into at Cornell.</p>

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<p>oh awesome… hahaha thanks cayuga. youre the most helpful guy on here</p>

<p>and is there actually a possiblity of spring transfer? as in b4 the 2nd semester of the freshman year. i cant find anything definitive on the site and college board says it is possible, but idk…</p>

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<p>I cannot believe Cornell will not give you money after you explained your circumstances.</p>

<p>also, they reevaluate financial aid every year. so if u do start 2010, u will only have one bad year financially speaking.</p>

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<p>No. You should plan on being at Georgetown for a full year. You can apply to enter in Fall 2011.</p>

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<p>@xs0itg0esx, thats exactly what i thought. i couldn’t believe that they weren’t being understanding. i mean dont they want their matriculation rate to be high? and being an ivy league school, i thought they would try whatever they could to make me attend. and i considered going to cornell for the year and paying for it because i wanted it that badly, but that 60k loan isn’t worth it. georgetown’s biz school is just as good as Cornell academically. and i cant in good conscience put my parents in that much pointless debt.</p>

<p>@dewdrop87, thank you for the clarification :)</p>

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<p>when will you have your greencard? </p>

<p>i thought may 1st deadline was a formality? </p>

<p>as an upperclassman i remember i turned in my stuff after and still got aid by the start of the year?!</p>

<p>but if it’s business you want i’d stick with georgetown (since you’re not accepted into aem)</p>

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<p>my greencard should be here 45 days from yesterday. because that is when my mother called and spoke with USCIS. and if not then, it will come 45 days after first 45 days. but within 90 days i will have it.</p>

<p>they said May 1st was a hard deadline so if i don’t have it by then, I can’t get any aid. also, it might depend on how late you turned it in. what exactly did you turn in? your greencard too?</p>

<p>i’m not 100% i want to do business, so i want options. and looking at the schools as a whole, i prefer cornell.</p>

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<p>i’m in the same boat as you. I’m not an Intl. student but their aid wasn’t awesome. But I don’t blame Cornell, they don’t give out merit scholarships so I can understand; also, i sent in my FA forms late [maybe that explains the little aid i received]. hopefully i’ll be given a preference as a transfer student too.</p>

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<p>georgetown doesn’t give out merit either and they were understanding enough to give me the aid i deserved. idk why cornell’s is being so difficult with their “policy.” its not like im not a permanent resident…</p>

<p>where are you going this fall, desi_chick?</p>

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<p>Policy is policy and rules are rules. If Cornell requires a green card to prove permanent resident status then you need a green card.</p>

<p>Life’s unfair. Best to learn it while young.</p>

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<p>Have you considered deferring? Maybe or maybe not a suitable option but a possibility.</p>

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<p>I have no idea why you are bothered by going to Georgetown. I think Georgetown is a better school than Cornell. Cornell and Penn are living off of their sports affiliations.</p>

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<p>Especially if you want to study engineering.</p>

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<p>Or if you want to study physics … or chemistry … or biology … or math … or veterinary medicine … or architecture … or computer science … or industrial and labor relations … et cetera … and so it goes.</p>

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<p>you got into gtown’s business school…u have a guaranteed shot at a good business program…</p>

<p>going to cornell wouldnt be a guaranteed spot for the business program…</p>

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<p>@ madhukar92: i’m heading to University of Rochester since i got a full ride there. But i agree with the others. If you’re considering business, Georgetown is a great school- don’t leave such a great opportunity.
best of luck.</p>

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<p>wow, thanks for all the great help guys!</p>

<p>Colm, Cayuga, and SJUHawk, is it really true that Gtown is better than Cornell for all of those things?? I always heard that it was the opposite since Gtown has bad funding and Cornell is really well endowed.</p>

<p>And I’m not bothered by going to Gtown, I really liked the campus and all. But I’m not a big fan of all the core requirements (theology, philosophy, and psychology). And its hard to take classes across colleges there.</p>

<p>And also, I would only transfer if I got into AEM.</p>

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<p>Of course not. We were being sarcastic. With the exception of Catholic theology and international affairs, it is hard to think of academic departments that are better at Georgetown vis-a-vis Cornell. But even then, Cornell’s international relations education is great because it is seamlessly woven into the curriculum of a lot of different majors.</p>

<p>That said, Georgetown is a fantastic school. I have fond memories of writing the first chapter of my senior thesis in Georgetown’s library over the summer of 2004. Of course, there were no stunning views of Lake Cayuga from the library and the library didn’t contain a lot of the material I needed, but that’s neither here nor there.</p>

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<p>IMO just go to Georgetown, do everything you can to love it there, and don’t look back.</p>

<p>Transferring is a risky business, it should not be undertaken lightly. Your social integration path is not the same when you come in after freshman year. It has worked out spectacularly well for D2 but still there are risks involved. You should not be thinking of transfer from the outset as you approach your new college, only if it turns out later that things are horrible for you there.</p>

<p>There are reasons you applied to Georgetown, re-focus on those and be sure you make the most of it, so transferring will be the furthest thing from your mind. There are things that are excellent about it, or its location at least, take deliberate measures to make sure you take full advantage of those aspects.</p>