Hey guys,
I was just wondering what your ACT scores were to get accepted into LSA. I have a 31 and plan on going to LSA for neuroscience or biology. Thanks!
median lsa score this year was 31
i was accepted into lsa with an act of 28 as a junior transfer student. so my act/sat probably had a lot less impact then it would have on a highschool student.
The mid 50 was 30-34 last year. Are you in-state?
My kid got in with a 31 ACT and 3.96gpa. She in microbio at LSA.
Anku…keep your gpa high and take as many as possible of the following: AP Calculus, AP Physics, AP Chemistry, AP Biology, Both AP English classes. Good luck!
I am out of state, billcsho!
Thank you!
It’s going to be more competitive out-of-state especially if you are from Illinois, New Jersey, California, or New York. Try to increase your act score to a 34
The overall undergrad ACT is 30-34. However, LSA students make up the bulk of these undergrads.
For engineering, it is 33, so that will drive overall average up.
However, other colleges such as Kinesiology ** 28-31** , Art & Design 29, Music 29, and Nursing will drive down overall average because all of them do not emphasize test scores as much as LSA or Engineering.
For example Art & Design places more importance on your portfolio.
Music school is mostly about your audition/compositions.
Nursing wants to see lots of volunteering and community service extra curriculars.
And Kinesiology has lots of college athletes such as soccer, rugby, hockey, swimming, diving, wrestling, gymnastics, rowing, golf, cross country, tennis, lacross, track & field, and of course basketball & football.
http://www.music.umich.edu/prospective_students/admissions/ug/app_proc/acad_prep.htm
http://www.kines.umich.edu/admissions-aid/undergraduate/freshman-admissions
http://www.engin.umich.edu/college/about/facts
https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/freshmen-applicants/student-profile
So yes, you can estimate that LSA’s average ACT is probably still 30-34.
In addition, the overall SAT 1440-1570. So, the 25% Percentile 1440 and 75% is at 1570. Again, this is mostly LSA holding up these scores, because those other schools don’t place less priority on test scores.
COE median is 1440, so you can safely assume that LSA performs better on the ACT than COE. This would not be an absurd conclusion, because SAT only has 3 sections Math/Reading/Writing, so it emphasizes more verbal skills than quantitative skills, so LSA students will do better on that. Meanwhile, the ACT include those 3 similar sections PLUS Science, so COE will do better on that the ACT.
^ The SAT mid 50 of 1440-1570 is in the new SAT format which has only 2 section scores. The CoE median is CR+M in the old format. The new SAT score is somewhat inflated. Subtract 40-60 points to make them comparable.
The figures are both for the class entering Fall 2016.
It wouldn’t make sense to show figures from the old SAT and then from the new SAT from the same exact year. No where on the engineering page does it say CR+M only
At the LSA presentation this year, the director said that the median ACT for this year’s admissions to LSA was a 31.
Enter class of 2016 has a mix of new and old SAT scores. In the overall stat page, they post both new and old SAT score ranges. From the ASEE database, the mid 50 for CR and M are 640-750 and 720-790 in the old SAT format which are around the same as 2105 entering class in CoE before the new SAT is available. With the new SAT score scale, it should be around 40-60 points higher in 2016.
No link to actual source.
Unverified.
If you are refering to ASEE as in the American Society of Engineering Education, then that it a student organization. Student organizatios are not part of the admissions team. It wouldn’t make sense that a student org has admissions data that the university admission team does not.
“At the LSA presentation this year, the director said that the median ACT for this year’s admissions to LSA was a 31?”
Not surprising since they will be skewed left. There are more scores below than above
Link for lazy people:
http://profiles.asee.org/profiles/7292/screen/19?school_name=University+of+Michigan
It is not a student organization. It has individual, institution, and corporate members. Study the org more before making comments. They sent survey to engineering schools each year to collect information. Information from that site has been posted many times in the engineering major subforum here for years.
Also note that the CoE freshmen profile data are not posted by the same office for the overall freshmen profile. They are not even updated in the same month. Obviously, they do not even use the same data format (median vs mid 50). You can compare the data on the same site from year to year (I have done that for over the past 6 years) for the trend. One cannot assume or generalize the CoE students doing better in ACT than SAT, particularly for the year that has been messed up with both new and old SAT score formats and scales. In addition, Michigan has switched their HS MME from ACT to SAT last year. That would affect the in state student score submission preference too (i.e. more in state students submitting SAT in 2016 due to the switch). Anyway, the ACT median has been 33 in CoE in the last few years while it was 31 in LSA in the same period of time. Nevertheless, the median increased from 28 to 31 in the last 10 years and the trend continues. See 2.3.1 on the Almanac this year.
http://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/almanac/Almanac_Ch2_Feb2017.pdf
For 2016 Oldscale
The overall score for the undergrad is SAT (old scale) 2050-2330
for COE, it was 2030-2220
For 2015
The overall score for undergrad is SAT 2040-2280
for COE, it was 2020-2230.
For 2014
The overall score for undergrad is SAT 2040-2260
for COE, it was 2020-2210
It still holds that COE has consistently lower SAT scores at the 25% and 75% percentiles than the overall undergrad every year. To achieve those overall, then LSA would need to bring up the average to achieve those numbers. As already mentioned above, the other schools also bring the overall down. It still holds that LSA most likely does better than COE on the SAT. And COE most likely does better than LSA on the ACT.
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btw, forgot to mention that noteToSelf was my post since i forgot my password that day (but i will stick to this account)
Note that the UMich Almanac showed an SAT mid 50 for 2016 freshmen to be 1310-1450. Would you compare that with the CoE median of 1440 instead? Obviously, the mid 50 of new SAT 1440-1570 is also higher than the corresponding ACT mid 50 of 30-34 on the same page. The CDS also shows ACT mid 50 of 29-33 instead of 30-34 for both 2015 and 2016. With either range, it is consistently lower than the ACT mid 50 reported in CoE. It depends on the timing (e.g. before or after summer melt) when they compile the data and whether to include part time students. CoE put far more emphasis on the Math section score (and the least for the Writing score in the old format). The other major difference in freshmen profile data is in the GPA format. For CoE, it has been 3.9 for years (always one digit after decimal) while for UMich overall was 3.8 until last year that it can be finally rounded up to 3.9.
My previous post ignores medians and even using the same old scale SAT in 2014 and 2015 where COE overall SAT is lower holds true. The new SAT wasn’t even administered until 2016
UMich overall is not rounded up to 3.9. It is 3.87, 3.85, 3.85 previously
https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/freshmen-applicants/student-profile
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