ACT or SAT? if i need to take TOEFL as well

<p>Hi, </p>

<p>Because english isn't my first language, I should submit the TOEFL test.
so as far as I understand the college or the Univ. that I am applying to going to look on my Math part of the ACT or SAT, and the english part they going to take from the TOEFL test, is this the way it's happens?
and if so, in which test the Math part is easier, in the SAT or ACT ?</p>

<p>thanks ALOT</p>

<p>Somebody ????????</p>

<p>I think it really depends on which college/university you are looking for. Different institutions have different admission process and standard for internetional students.
They won't weight your verbal SAT scores ad much as domestic students', but they probably either won't completely discard it as you discribed. If you're aiming for elite schools, that's a different story.
The bottom line is that you're eventually competing with other applicants, mostly in a pool of internatoinal students. When someone else has got the same math score in either SAT or ACT, you can't assume your verbal score won't be compared.</p>

<p>It depends on the college you are applying to. Check their admission guidelines to see how they will weight your TOEFL along with your ACT or SAT.</p>

<p>As far as mathematics, it depends on what kind of person you are and on your preparation. If you are smart, of high I.Q., and of good deductive skills, take the SAT. If you are a hard working person that's going to do a lot of practice for the exam and if you are good at memorizing the procedures used to solve questions, take the ACT. Note, however, that the ACT tests trigonometry/pre-calculus, so if you have only taken algebra and geometry, stick to the SAT.</p>

<p>Basically, the ACT gives more questions with less time, but the questions are easy. The SAT gives less questions with more time, but the questions are hard. The ACT tests things you are taught in school; they want to see that you can do them very fast, in great number, and without making mistakes. The SAT tests your ability to think and to use the things you were taught in school as tools to solve more complex problems.</p>

<p>Also note calculator requirements. The ACT does NOT allow the TI-89. That means you are stuck using a TI-83/TI-84, or some other lower model (avoid taking the exam with a scientific calculator. Borrow a graphing calculator if you cannot afford one). The SAT, however, allows the TI-89. So depending on which calculator you are more comfortable with, this may affect your decision.</p>

<p>Take the ACT because the SAT does give vocabulary analogies.</p>

<p>Also, the ACT is mostly comprehension. Most people do not have TI-89s, so the calclator is fine as long as it is a graphing calculator.</p>

<p>So overall the ACT is easier ?
in addition i called to the school and they told me if i will submit my SAT with score of 600 and more on the english part of it ( i'm not sure what does it mean; grammar, essay etc. ), then i don't have submit TOEFL exam</p>

<p>somebody ???????</p>

<p>Usually the "English" section is the SAT means the critical reading section, since nobody cares about the writing section for several reasons I won't go into right now.</p>

<p>Anyways, like I said, for the math, the ACT takes more hard work, but most people can get a higher score on it if they put in the hard work. There is a limit to how high hard work is going to take you on the SAT; the rest is up to your deductive abilities and the overall ability to think of your brain, both of which are pretty hard to change on a short term notice.</p>