affirmative action survey

<p>Race: Caucasian
Gender: Male
Economic Background: Upper-Middle
Parent's Education Level: Both with Masters
ACT score: 33
G.P.A.: 3.8
Class Rank: 9 of 200
A.A. Based on Race: Really Bad
A.A. Based on economic background: Against it, but it is somewhat necessary</p>

<p>Race: Chinese (Uh oh?)
Gender: Male (Mhm...)
Economic background: Upper Middle (I think everybody has put this thusfar)
Parents education level: Dad and Mom have Ph.D and Masters respectively)
SAT score: 2280 (NSAT)
GPA: 3.97
Class rank: 49/803 (Obscene grade inflation)
Affirmative action based on race: Mildly/possibly good. Generally bad.
Affirmative action based on economic background: Mildly good.</p>

<p>A.A. really depends on who you are and what your situation is.</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>race: Caucasian
gender: Female
economic background: Very poor
parents education level: college grad
SAT score: 1460
GPA: 4.0 UW--school doesn't weight
class rank: 1/70
affirmative action based on race: very good<br>
affirmative action based on economic background: umm. no real opinion, if you need an answer I suppose good.</p>

<p>race: Chinese
gender: male
economic background: upper middle class
parents education level: both MD
SAT score: 1480 (old)
GPA:4.01
class rank: N/A
affirmative action based on race: good or bad? bad
affirmative action based on economic background: good or bad? good to a certain extent</p>

<p>social economic status is evil, but i guess the society needs it</p>

<p>race: Asian
gender: Male
economic background: upper class
parents education level: mom - Bachelor's degree... dad - Bachelor's degree
SAT score: 2190 (1470 + 720)
GPA: 3.89/4.00
class rank: no rank
affirmative action based on race: bad
affirmative action based on economic background: good</p>

<p>race: white
gender: male
economic background: upper middle class
parents education level: bachelors degrees... dads a cpa
SAT score: 2120 (1400 +720)
GPA: about 97/100 weighted
class rank: around 15
affirmative action based on race: good or bad? bad
affirmative action based on economic background: good or bad? bad</p>

<p>i know i shouldn't really say this here since it's a survey, but all of you people that are middle to upper class and think that AA shouldn'y exist for poor people are jerks!!!!!!! sorry not everyone is as rich as you are.</p>

<p>race: Black
gender: male
economic background: upper middle class
parents' education level: dad-MBA mom M.D.
SAT score: 1510 (800v, 710m)
GPA: (school doesnt rank, has a weird GPA system, but top 10% of a very very competitive prep school)
Class Rank: see above
affirmative action based on race: outdated-worked back then, but we need to move on
affirmative action based on economic background: VERY VERY GOOD</p>

<p>race: White
gender: Male
economic background:Upper middle class
parents education level: Dad- Law degree, Mom-B.A.
SAT score: 1590 (800M 790V)
GPA: 4.0 UW
class rank: 1 / 407
affirmative action based on race: good
affirmative action based on economic background: good</p>

<p>race: white
gender: male
economic background: upper middle class
parents education level: Dad-MD, Mom-some college, dropped out because of $$, RN
SAT score: 1540 old (790M 750V), 2320 new (800M 720CR 800W)
GPA: 4.5W, 4.0UW
class rank: 1/190
affirmative action based on race: good
affirmative action based on economic background: better</p>

<p>sheesh, there sure are some bleeding hearts in here today...</p>

<p>race: white
gender: female
economic background: lower middle class
parents education level: dad - bachelor's, mom - high school
ACT: 32
GPA: 3.7 unweighted
class rank: 40 something out of 708
affirmative action based on race: good, but could be phased out as times change
affirmative action based on economic background: good</p>

<p>"all of you people that are middle to upper class and think that AA shouldn'y exist for poor people are jerks!!!!!!!"</p>

<p>money has nothing to do with brain power</p>

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<p>How many poor people can afford things like SAT classes? What about poorer kids who have to worry about working and supporting their families instead of deovting it to doing well in school? Also, the poorer you are, the less education your parents have. Educated parents usually make sure their children are educated.</p>

<p>"The same score reflects more ability when you come from a less fortunate background," Mr. [Larry] Summers, the president of Harvard, said. "You haven't had a chance to take the test-prep course. You went to a school that didn't do as good a job coaching you for the test. You came from a home without the same opportunities for learning."</p>

<p>This is a quote from a great NYtimes article on class and its effect on education:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/24/national/class/EDUCATION-FINAL.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5070&en=6b104cc1ea0103a6&ex=1119240000%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/24/national/class/EDUCATION-FINAL.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5070&en=6b104cc1ea0103a6&ex=1119240000&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>sheesh, there sure are some bleeding hearts in here today...</p>

<p>How so?</p>

<p>"How many poor people can afford things like SAT classes? What about poorer kids who have to worry about working and supporting their families instead of deovting it to doing well in school? Also, the poorer you are, the less education your parents have. Educated parents usually make sure their children are educated."</p>

<p>What is this, some sort of rant? Money has none or at least minimal correlation with sat scores. Poverty isn't synonymous with low sat scores. Besides, even if one is poverty stricken, that hurdle is still low enough that anyone with enough initiative and apitude can jump over it.</p>

<p>Umm, why dont you take up that argument with Larry Summers and every other big name in higher education-they disagree with you.</p>

<p>Statistically speaking, the poorer your parents, the worse you do on the SAT. Therefore you are dead wrong when you assert that there is no correlation between income and scores.</p>

<p>Do you know that the middle class recieves by far more financial aid at colleges than the lower class? Do you know that the median income of the family of a Harvard undergraduate is $150,000?</p>

<p>Here is data, collected by the College Board itself, about the correlation between household income and SAT I reasoning test scores.</p>

<p>Less Than $10,000-422verbal, 450math
$10,000 - $20,000-440v, 457m
$20,000 - $30,000-459v, 467m
$30,000 - $40,000-478v, 482m
$40,000 - $50,000-493v, 496m
$50,000 - $60,000-501v, 504m
$60,000 - $70,000-507v, 510m
$70,000 - $80,000-515v, 518m
$80,000 - $100,000-527v, 530m
More Than $100,000-553v, 562m</p>

<p>Here is the URL of the source (PDF document):
<a href="http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/about/news_info/cbsenior/yr2004/2004_CBSNR_total_group.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downloads/about/news_info/cbsenior/yr2004/2004_CBSNR_total_group.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>No High School Diploma-415verbal, 445math<br>
High School Diploma -469verbal, 474math
Associate’s Degree -486verbal, 490math
Bachelor’s Degree -523verbal, 531math
Graduate Degree -558verbal, 564math</p>

<p>same source as above.</p>