Analytical Writing requirment

<p>Apparently you have to have a 680 or above on the SAT Writing to pass the requirment. In the highest SAT composite score in one sitting I had a 670. However in a different sitting I got a 710. Do you think that will let me pass the requirement or will I have to waste one of my saturdays taking a stupid writing test.</p>

<p>why is this required again...is it to skip out of first year english?</p>

<p>No if you dont pass it you have to take remedial english</p>

<p>o well remedial english it is!</p>

<p>It says you have to take a test on May 12 and pass it or else your in remedial engilish. Its stupid though because I got a 710 in writing.</p>

<p>i think the analytical writing requirement will be not hard, yet not to easy its a two hour essay... compared to the ap english essays its like eating potato chips posting online messages while doing precalculus homework..</p>

<p>i hope i pass.... last year i sent an essay they evaluated and gave me a 3 lolz
i was only in honors english back then -_- </p>

<p>4 is passing</p>

<p>o i dont have to take this i just found out. 3 on ap eng ftw!</p>

<p>It's not really remedial English.

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<p>Many students are in it because they aren't good at AP tests, didn't have access to them, didn't want to take them, or other reasons. I guess the remedial Englsih is the college writing class if you do not pass you the test required. Many students skip out of these, but that doesn't make them remedial.</p>

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<p><a href="http://www.coe.berkeley.edu/current_students/hssreq.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.coe.berkeley.edu/current_students/hssreq.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>so for me, please help me clarify, if i don't pass the subject a test then i have to take these two classes (english r1a or n1a all the way to r1b or n1b) ----then that'll take care of my reading and composition requirements as well as the subject a?</p>

<p>furthermore...</p>

<p>so if i take this route in my college career
<a href="http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/Notes/Sample/sample4.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/Notes/Sample/sample4.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>then can i push away my two humanities courses during my freshman year and instead substitute english r1a/r1b for it and take care of my composition / reading requirements that way?</p>

<p>hmm, how many classes can u take per semester? since my load will be full i think i can take two humanities or composition/reading classes over the summer through the summer program</p>

<p>If you don't pass the subject A, you have to take the 6 unit College writing class. Then you have to fulfill the second part (assuming you pass the first, which you best if you want to graduate). </p>

<p>You can take 20.5 (I believe) units in the college of engineering without any approval. It might be one or two more or less, I'm not sure. Beyond that, you need special approval from the dean. You cannot take fewer than 13 units without approval (I do believe).</p>

<p>I think the R and C classes work for the humanities in the CoE, but ask and advisor, someone at Cal Day, or just call and find out.</p>

<p>12 units minimum for CoE.</p>

<p>thanks guys, you're gosus~ </p>

<p>could you guys tell me what were your freshman schedule when u first attend berkeley? i need to know... i want my schedule to be easy so i can adapt better and also so i can test how i fight rigor....</p>

<p>Take classes with subjects you're familiar with, are genuinely interesested in, and that you will not find overwhelming. Take a minimal number of units, and not too many classes people consider "hard," unless you think you can do well in them for whatever reason (but be careful).</p>

<p>thanks! it's always the one we love to do that are the easiest... i luv chem XD</p>

<p>You're welcome. Don't be afraid to try something new. If you are good with reading, writing, and talking about written texts, maybe try something in philosophy, rhetoric, maybe cultural anthropology, for instance. You don't have to be familiar with stuff in a field to be familiar with the skills necessary for doing well in a subject, and taking something like art history or intro to visual thinking (art 8) is a great way to develop skills in visual thinking, something not often taught. Berkeley has so many classes in so many fields, it's just mind boggling. Take something that you've always been interested in and weren't able to take for whatever reason (as long as it isn't in the upper-division or something).</p>

<p>I second what DRab said about taking courses you find interesting and engaging. However, I do understand that as a CoE/prospective EECS major (am I correct?), you may have to start taking the "hard" courses as part of your prereqs. I'm gonna include my first semester schedule on here, as well as a couple of my friends'.</p>

<p>My schedule, as an MCB major: Chem 1A (major prereq), ESPM 60 (L&S breadth req), Italian 1 (for fun), NES 24 (1-unit freshmen seminar, for fun) for a total of 14 units.</p>

<p>My friend's schedule, as BioE major: Chem 1A (major prereq), Math 1B (major prereq), Engineering 77 (major prereq), CompLit R1A (or was it R1B, I don't recall..) for a total of 16 units.</p>

<p>Another friend's schedule, as MechE major: Chem 1A (major prereq), Math 53 (major prereq), Japanese 10 (CoE humanities req), and I think another 4-unit major prereq (I forgot which one) for a total of 19 units. (Japanese was 7 units, I think, because of all those supplements.. But he was really interested in it, so it worked out for him.)</p>

<p>The minimum number of units for CoE is 12 per semester. Personally, I think the best way to go for the first semester would be to take a major prereq (or two), a college req (something you are interested in), something else that is also required (e.g. the R&C requirements. As a sidenote, there are a lot of R&C courses outside of the English department, so it may be easier on your sanity if you find something you're actually interested in), and maybe a just-for-fun freshmen seminiar. That should bring you to about at least 13 units, which is a very comfortable (again, in my opinion) courseload.</p>

<p>bleh i hope it isnt supppper hard to transfer from MCB to an egineering major :(</p>

<p>I was wondering about the requirement because while I did not take AP English, I am taking three English classes at a CC that are supposed to transfer for the English/Reading and Composition (R & C) requirements according to assist.org (R1A and R1B). Will this do anything for me? Should I even bother trying to get a hold of the admissions office?</p>

<p>If ASSIST states they will be transferred, they most likely will be transferred. Just make sure you send in an official transcript from your CC to Berkeley (and that Berkeley got it). The R&C classes can be taken as late as sophomore year, so in the worst case scenario where it didn't transfer over, you can still take it at Berkeley (even though it will be quite the hassle).</p>

<p>awesome, i hope i cruise down freshman year easily!
if i dont do well on the ap test... then i guess my schedule will be as follows</p>

<p>fall:
math1a
eng r1a
eecs prereq.
humanities</p>

<p>spring
math1b
eng r1b
eecs prereq
physics7a</p>

<p>sounds fine?</p>

<p>then i can follow this
<a href="http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/Notes/Sample/sample4.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/Notes/Sample/sample4.htm&lt;/a>
with the humanities from the spring year go to summer school or senior year</p>

<p>and if i can get ahold of summer school maybe i can take some of my humanities course or the physics class there so i don't have to take it and just have three classes per sem, around 12 units</p>