<p>Just got out of my extra credit Women of Islam lecture. Back to the grind.</p>
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<p>Me using the “these are the people who espouse the same views as you” might have been a little on the nose but my intent stands. You claimed I was lying when I said that a large swath of the anti-gay groups would actually not be opposed to us being executed. I showed you some very prominant people in the movement who would and have in fact, called for our death or for us to be deported. Your words were “Nope, I don’t believe that.” Well too bad, I don’t care what you believe, the fact is that the people who make “disagreeing” with homosexuality their profession have called for our death on several occasions. The only reason it isn’t out there more is because their handlers told them to tone it down a little to keep from alienating moderates and those on the fence, apparantly Bryan “gays caused the Holocaust” Fischer didn’t get that memo. These are the same people who recently tried, and succeeded at making miscarriages a possible felony punishable by death in a certain state but that’s a topic for another debate.</p>
<p>and @Yakyuu – being LGBT is not a choice, shame on you, you know better. Why do you always come to boards like this to ■■■■■ with comments like that? I’ve seen you do it over and over again. You always say one small line and leave without supporting your position.</p>
<p>Women of Islam… wow… sounds, uh… interesting?</p>
<p>^It was, mostly it was for Women’s Month and the idea was to clear up some of the stereotypes and misconceptions around women who wear the headscarf. The speakers were mostly from Berkeley so it was cool – it was a one-off thing, and I’m getting extra credit in Honors Anthro for it</p>
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<p>When I said I didn’t believe that, I meant that I didn’t believe that all gays should be executed, not that I didn’t understand what you were saying or believe the link was valid. I’ve heard about that and guess what? I think it’s awful. Not what you wanted to hear, right? </p>
<p>My problem is with you trying to associate me with the extremists on my side of the fence. I would never associate you with, say, domestic terrorism or radical violent feminist movements or anything like that. You’re just trying to support your opinion by making me seem like a horribly irrational, violent, hate-filled person which I’m not. </p>
<p>And you can say “being gay is not a choice” all you want, the fact remains that that’s YOUR OPINION and you shouldn’t shame other people for believing otherwise.</p>
<p>Wow! My best friend is gay and we are the hottest couple ever!!! Im a girl and my best friend is gay and we are so hot and LOVE going out together and get the looks the best part is that when guys come to me if I don’t like them, my friend pretends we are couple. He has some super hot straight friends and guess who gets the best part?? ME!, same with him, my gay friends are super hot and he gets the best.</p>
<p>As a friend of too many gays and lesbians, and best friend of a gay, gotta tell ya’, you super straight squared minded “tough guys”, just because they like men doesnt mean they will fall for you, just like girls dont fall for you just because you are a guy!..They all have different likings. They are not crying for atention, they are crying for acceptance and respect, just like women did back in time, black people did etc…</p>
<p>Try to be more open minded, they are people who were brave enough to explore their sexuality and are getting the best of it. Most of you I bet are so scared to explore, I bet you are the kind of guys who masturbate in a closet or hidden and do it quietly and panicked because you are too scared and think is something bad. Be more open, life is beautiful and there are more important things in life than sexual preferences.
And try to explore your own sexuality, who knows? perhaps you like guys too…</p>
<p>All the homophobes on CC, blame your parents for your ignorance. Your parents taught you wrong, and it’s time to think outside the box.</p>
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<p>lulz</p>
<p>on a more serious note, do gay guys get turned on by their own weiner?</p>
<p>Not very “tolerant and accepting” of you, shyuk. Why can’t you just accept that I don’t and never will be able to ACCEPT homosexuality as an acceptable way of life? I haven’t even talked about my stance on gay marriage and other issues such as DADT. what if I hold these beliefs but I’m apathetic about those things? does it matter? Do you just want to force your ideas down the throats of other people then?</p>
<p>I also love how if we disagree with something a gay person says, regardless if it has anything to do with them actually being gay, we are automatically a bigot and a homophobe. </p>
<p>Crazy huh??</p>
<p>^Inorite? And my biggest question is, what do you have to gain by calling us ignorant and homophobic or whatever? Do you think that by being bitter and condescending we’ll suddenly just have a change of heart? I haven’t called you any homophobic slurs or anything in this thread, yet you people persist in calling me ignorant, bigoted, etc. Why is that?</p>
<p>@antipacificst Then I retract my statement, it’s hard to read intent over the internet. I apologize for the misunderstanding. I read enough of what the crazies say that when someone says something like “I don’t believe that” when they mean they really don’t believe it even though there’s proof out there so it gets into headdesk territory.</p>
<p>But I’ll have to disagree with you again about the choice thing. It’s not my opinion, the research supports that it isn’t a choice. I agree with the research. I’ll ask again, if you think it’s a choice then at some point in your life you must have “chosen” to become straight. From my OWN experience it was a slow progression to realize it over several years. It’s a complex evolution in thought for me. Other people have known since they were little kids “I wasn’t really attracted to girls/boys.” Me? I couldn’t figure out why but for the longest time the idea of being with a girl… and settling down into a house, with lights, and dinner, and the pomp and circumstance of adult life, this repetitive cycle, an endless routine. It made me deeply… deeply sad for some reason. Through TMI stuff on the internet I slowly came to realize… hey, when I’m doing this I don’t think I’m getting off on the girls… I’m getting off on the boys… It’s not about the girlie parts, I’m more interested in boys… maybe I’m gay? Or bi… maybe bi, probably bi. No I’m not gay… no, no no, wait… fine, yes, I am. </p>
<p>Once I opened myself up and took a good hard look at me I came to the truth immediately, it wasn’t a choice, it was there all along, all I did was recognize and accept it.</p>
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<p>Yeah, sometimes actually, we do. But so do you.</p>
<p>To JanofLeiden, regarding your post in page 5: the word “■■■” has really only become a slur hereabouts in the U.S. In the U.K. it’s short for ■■■■■■, which means a cigarette, or is used in the verb form like “to smoke”. I myself, having gone through European schools abroad, never even knew it was a derogatory term until everyone in a U.S. high school looked at me funny when I was talking about someone who “had a ■■■”. I guess it became a reference to homosexuals because they used to burn gays at the stake along with witches…That’s why it isn’t censored often.</p>
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<p>^I know I do,amirite</p>
<p>That was for itachmurons post</p>
<p>Well my weiner is magnificent. It would be unatural to not get turned on by it…</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>oh my bad, I don’t wanna shove my heterosexuality down anyone’s throat</p>
<p>That came out wrong…</p>
<p>The gallery is laughing it’s ass off</p>
<p>You can’t say I am not accepting because you are doing the exact same too. There shouldn’t be any reason what so ever for people to be homophobes, like I just don’t understand why it bothers you to that extent where you have to cut someone off of your life like you mentioned on the other thread.</p>
<p>& we call people homophobes only in situations where being gay is an issue.</p>
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<p>I don’t see your logic, at all. What is there to accept? It doesn’t involve you. What is an acceptable way of life? Wife, kids, home? Meanwhile, like 2/3 of the world is worried about having enough food. Yet, you can’t manage to grasp the concept that a guy can love another guy. It’s really pathetic to me that TODAY, after so much progress in society, you can still be that ignorant. Seriously.</p>
<p>If you think being gay is that bad/wrong, you really haven’t seen anything. Live somewhere like NY, SF, or LA and you will clearly see how wild people are.</p>
<p>I haven’t had to deal with such ideology for awhile, so it’s weird to see someone with such a outdated thought process on homosexuality. I guess living where I do doesn’t expose me to blatant ignorance.</p>