Any chance for an international student in BS/MD Program?

Pre-Med & Medical School Multiple Degree Programs
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<p>Hi there!
I'm a rising junior and I'm also really interested in the BS/MD program (specifically: Rochester REMS, Brown PLME, Northwestern HPME, Rice/baylor, Boston U acc). I heard that it's really competitive for international students to be admitted to these programs. So can you please see what I can do to improve my chance? Thanks a lot :)</p>

<p>First of all.. I'm Thai from a competitive international school in Thailand
Gender: female
Freshmen GPA: 3.83 unweighted
Sophomore GPA: 3.94 unweighted</p>

<p>SAT I: taking this November
my diagnostic test score is 2100 :(</p>

<p>SAT II subject:
Bio: 800, planning to take chem, physics, math II</p>

<p>AP: Bio 5 (10th grade), planning to take AP calc AB and physics B later</p>

<p>For my junior and senior year, I'm taking IB diploma
HL: bio, chem, english
SL: psychology, math, thai (all thai students are enforced to take this by the government)
An extra SL subject: physics</p>

<p>EC:
Varsity basketball: captain
varsity volleybal: co captain
varsity softball: starter, most improved award
Certified Thai boxer: highest level of accomplishment
Lead actress in the musical drama production
play electric bass guitar and double bass
Treasurer for the Model United Nation club
Members for the habitat for humanity and the environment club
homeroom rep
Shakespeare sonnet finalist
a lot of math award: UKMAT, AMC, etc (gold and some silver medals)</p>

<p>2 summers at phillips academy andover:
-prep for ap chem: honors
-1st yr college level bio: honors
-AP calculus AB: honors
-english: honors</p>

<p>nominated in the National Leadership forum conference: medicine at UC Berkeley
nominated and enrolled in the national youth leadership forum: medicine at UCLA
Vejtani Hospital volunteer work (Thailand) as medical translator: 120 hours
General Police Hospital volunteer work (Thailand) at the emergency room: 120 hours
Angkor Children Hospital volunteer work (Cambodia) at the pediatric ward: 40 hours
Teaching English to underprivileged children/orphans: 60 hours
Plant mangrove trees around the tsunami areas: 12 hours
Volunteer at the blind school, orphanage, senior community (club's road trip): 40 hours
Red cross volunteer work at the northern part of Thailand (small tribes and villages): 20 hours
Volunteer at the airport's tourist police division during the rebellion: there's this civil war going on and one of the group took over the airport: 460 hours
Certificate of Training: tourist police
Certificate of Training: red cross</p>

<p>Research at the Stem cell center: 60 hours</p>

<p>Medical internship camp at Seriraj Hospital: 100 hours</p>

<p>Shadowing opportunities:
- surgeon MD/PHD/Sergeant Major: 20 hours
-Ph.D in mass spectrometry at the Quest Diagnostic Nichols (research) Institute: 10 hours</p>

<p>In addition to that, I was admitted to the 5 years medical program at the Nottingham U in England (Through a Thai program) in 10th grade by taking a GED test
However, I decided not to go because I don't think I'll be mature enough (I mean come on.. I'll be a doctor when I'm 21. Even before I can drive in Thailand-22 years old haha)</p>

<p>So, please tell me what to do in order to improve my chance and thanks a lot for bearing with me :)</p>

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<p>Wait, so do you thaibox or are you a Thai boxer? hahahah…I had to be punny :)</p>

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<p>hahaha i see
well I thai box in certain tournaments :slight_smile:
But I’ve been boxing less lately because of my studies</p>

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<p>Could you list your activities in terms of years of involvement? It’s really hard to predict your chances when you list your activities in hours.</p>

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<p>Varsity basketball: captain (since 8th grade… so 3 years)
varsity volleybal: co captain (2 years)
varsity softball: starter, most improved award (1 year)
Certified Thai boxer: highest level of accomplishment (start boxing when I was six, received the highest level of accomplishment certificate 2 years ago)
Lead actress in the musical drama production: 10th grade
play electric bass guitar and double bass: 3 years
Treasurer for the Model United Nation club: (been in club for 2 years)
Members for the habitat for humanity and the environment club (2 years)
homeroom rep (9th grade… 1 year)
Shakespeare sonnet finalist (9th grade)
a lot of math award: UKMAT, AMC, etc (gold and some silver medals) (start joining the math competition in 9th grade)</p>

<p>As for my internship, research, and shadowing opportunities: Just started this year over the course of my school breaks</p>

<p>Most of the volunteer works I did are somewhat continuous since 9th grade and the hours I volunteer vary due to my interests in various areas.
However, I recalled that I volunteer as the tourist police for two months (hope that helps)</p>

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<p>Those programs are super competitive for U.S. students let alone international. So far gpa isn’t looking too great, but it might be a tough school. Do you know est. class rank by any chance? You still have time to improve SATs. Make sure it’s above 2300 at least. Though you have a lot of medically related activities, I’m not sure of the context, but academics aren’t looking to amazing which won’t let you in anywhere even from in-states.</p>

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<p>Our school only tells you if you’re in the honor roll aka the top 5 percent of the class (in which I am)
Currently, I’m taking the SAT course every weekend. Hopefully, I’ll improve my score.
As for my GPA, I guess I have to try really hard this coming junior year and senior year. However, I’m the only person in my grade taking 7 IB subjects (equivalent to AP) so that should increase my GPA. Anyway, thanks for your advice :)</p>

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<p>Some programs mention specifically requirement of citizenship. If it is not mentioned, then I would contact each program that you are interested in applying. BTW, you have chosen the most selective programs in the country. If your goal is to get into bs/md, then I would advise to apply to wide range of programs, not just to the most selective ones.
In regard to SAT, rely more on self-study than class instruction. Instructor does not know your specific strengths/weaknesses, you do. Customized self-study will do more to improve your score.</p>

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<p>I only list those programs because I only know those programs :frowning:
Will you please list more BS/MD programs? Thanks
Because I have part time jobs and sport practice after school, I will try to self study for the SAT during my free blocks at school<br>
I know these programs are really competitive but I might as well just try it. I already have my place in a joint medical Thailand/England program reserved so I’m just gonna try my best.</p>

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<p>I honestly think all your volunteer work is gold- none of the Americans here on CC match up to you in terms of volunteering. You’ve done everything from volunteering at the hospital to teaching underprivileged children to being a tourist police in a civil war (wasn’t that dangerous?)! Your unique and varied experiences definitely make you a pretty good candidate (in my opinion at least).</p>

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<p>ahaha, wow. That would without a doubt sparkle in a stack of applications. You should try and aim higher, because with those types of ECs, you have a good chance of being accepted into an Ivy. good luck and bring up those grades</p>

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<p>As an international student in HPME, I have to say the chances aren’t good. There are only two of us in my year and not more than that in any other year. That being said, you do have excellent stats. Brown and Northwestern are open to international students, not sure about the rest of them.</p>

<p>The key really is the interview. Your stats should see you past the inital obstacles, unless citizenship becomes a concern to admissions. If you do well, and impress, and are sincere, you should have as good as shot as anyone.</p>

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<p>Sorry for the late reply. There was a huge flood in Thailand… and my house was flooded :frowning:
The school just opened and thus I have internet access
Anyway, thank you for all your replies and recommendations
I’ve read somewhere that Northwestern HPME requires a year of Physics class
However, due to schedule conflict, I cannot take any. Do you guys know whether or not I can substitute this class with SAT subject test? Thank you :)</p>

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<p>For an international student, roughly what are the standards?</p>

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<p>Also, have you got into hpme if I may ask?</p>

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<p>There is a university called Georgia Regents University in Augusta, Georgia, USA. It used to be Augusta State University, and it recently merged with the Medical College of Georgia. you either have to have a 3.5 or a 3.9 GPA (I forget which) and at least a 1400 on the SAT (thats only the math and critical reading sections). At this school, i believe that as long as you meet those requirements, you are automatically accepted into the program. there are no cuts. Its a 7 year program and does not require you to take the MCAT later on. I’d take a look if I were you!</p>