Anyone else wonder why Parents are on this Forum.

<p>Just because I've considered this myself...for starters, I think it's great a website like this is available for parents as an outlet and a resource. Certainly, many of our parents are financially driving our college educations and they are deserving of a voice in the application process of their children. However, I can understand where some kids on this thread are coming from in regards to parents who seem over-involved in their children's educations (and not necessarily living vicariously or anything, I just think there is a sense of over-involvement and fixation even). I cannot empathize personally with the parent/child dynamics of this board because my parents' philosophy is to just "let their kids 'be.'" Yes, very Taoist, but in my opinion, quite successful. My parents casually espoused a laissez-faire theory in which we were to be self-sufficient, responsible and motivated of our own volition. I can see where and why parents may need to intervene or become concerned in their children's educations and I have tremendous respect for that, and I commend the parents who utilize a site of this nature to that end of aiding their kids. But part of me still feels it's the child's responsibility to be self-motivating. Parents are our greatest cheerleaders often, but it's important we learn to navigate and tackle issues ourselves...because self-reliance is a skill...a skill that requires trial and error that we must be allowed to undertake.</p>

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I always find it kind of funny and Sad whenever a parent posts like on the Acceptances thing. Saying something like My D got accepted into -soandso

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<p>There would only be about half as many data sets in the acceptance threads without the parents posting their kid's statistics. </p>

<p>beprepn</p>

<p>What I particularly like about CC is that adults and students can interact with each other, share information and experiences, vent and even debate constructively. We all know families who face challenges communicating with each other, and the CC virtual family provides a safe space for many of us discuss issues in our lives !!!</p>

<p>I just wish that people on CC weren't so obsessed with prestige, status and ranking, and that more colleges and universities were represented in the discussions. Sometimes, I sense that there are lurkers with an interest in "regular" schools who are simply intimidated about speaking out here on CC, because there is so much emphasis on the top tier, elite schools.</p>

<p>I don't mind the parents at all. Many of them appear to have raised several children who have gone to a wide variety of colleges--from the state university to Princeton. I like their input; they're often quite objective in a way that high school students can't be. I agree with the above poster silicon valley--the mix of high school students, college students, grad students, and adults is nice.</p>

<p>To the OP:
have you ever posted any questions or any other threads on this website? Did you ever stop to look at who gave you the most detailed, factual, helpful answers? I have, and many of the truly informed replies came from parents. And this is just going by the usernames that have 'mom' or 'dad' and the posts who refer to their kids. There are plenty more out there. I personally think it is great that there are so many parents who not only are proud of their own children (and have every right to brag about them) but are willing to pass on the knowledge they have gained to kids they don't even know! These people have been through or are going through the ENTIRE process and therefore know INFINITELY more about it than many of us high school students who are simply speculating. I really don't care if it is weird; when I am asking questions that will have an impact on where and how I spend the next 4 years of my life, I would much rather have the input of experienced adults who have actually visited and studied certain colleges and been through it with a teenager before than someone just as unsure as myself. They are certainly less likely to cling blindly to one school like all of those posters who enlighten us with comments like "College X is the best becuase I go there and like it and therefore you should". Besides, how is it weird that they are trying to help us? And if they want to get on here and brag about their kid because he/she got accepted into the kind of school the rest of us are on here dreaming about, then by all means brag away! And yes, I know, there are lots of overbearing parents. But they are trying to help their kids and willing to help the rest of us, so who cares? Your comment just goes to show how blindly stubborn, ignorant, conceited, and ungrateful teenagers can be.</p>

<p>I forget to mention elements of the above (redbricks) in my own post. Yes, some of the most thoughtful and comprehensive replies on this site are from parents. Their knowledge and experience is on an entirely different level...a level for which I am very much appreciative. As far as CC goes, I think it's awesome there are parents...and students, interacting.</p>

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<p>Right, the kids did nothing to get to their dream college. I mean, obviously the parents did it all for them.....riiiighht.</p>

<p>I for one hate bragging parents about their damn nerdy children who got into this and this. I mean **** already. Your child is not into the social mainstream and will FAIL at EQ. Perhaps a good engineer. Little Brats these days.... (This comment is not directed to those online this comment is directed to parents i know. I am sure there are some really cool kids who have really cool parents, who slightly "brag".)</p>

<p>Btw. I am paying for my college either through my parents LOAN or bank LOAN. ONly thing I am benefitting is 0% interest... which can be seen as around a 10k "gift" to me.... of course they wouldnt buy a car for me (I use my dad's car for any "academic excuse") when i was 16 and I work to buy anything besides food. </p>

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Your comment just goes to show how blindly stubborn, ignorant, conceited, and ungrateful teenagers can be.

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Sounds like you hate yourself. Ignorant yes of course. I dont want my parents butting in to my space. They are not paying for anything, why the F**K would I want to be dependent on them for ANYTHING. I got into my schools without my parents doing anything except yelling that I would get rejected to every single one. </p>

<p>Their is a reason why teenagers are called teenagers... do get INDEPENDENCE.</p>

<p>Why are you even basing your decision on ANY other person's comments. Go to the schools you are interested in. Visit and spay a few days there. Then decide for yourself, not your parents...</p>

<p>Now if your parents are paying for your college...thats another story.</p>

<p>"when i was 16 and I work to buy anything besides food. "</p>

<p>Somehow, I truely feel sorry for you. Independence is good but that should not be how a kid should be brought up.</p>

<p>just my 2 cents</p>

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It just seems like you parents the kind that are Freaking driving your kids into the ground and would Whip them if they got a D. or ground them if their GPA went down .1.

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<p>Actually, it feels like most parents on here have the exact opposite attitude.</p>

<p>I can't stand when parents post their children's stats and talk about all of their kid's accomplishments. They are too involved in the process and need to relax and do something besides posting on CC. Posting concerns about college is so distant from anything that my parents would do that whenever I see a parent posting for his/her child it makes me grimace. Whatever.</p>

<p>i love the fact that there are parents on here.... they get to offer us awesome advice from what they've been through or what they know from other experieneces... they are seriously a valuable assett to this community!</p>

<p>I get annoyed when people post their stats just to brag, but it's kids just as much as parents- the only difference is that kids pretend they aren't bragging. Both age groups have members who feel the need to reinforce their ego by getting praise from complete strangers. Even though I'm a senior, I think people my age are the bigger problem.</p>

<p>Its really not that bad. Considering clothes per year can only be in the low $XXX, thus around low-mid $XX per month and lets see Cell phone is only mid $XX, all my electronic purchases are a one time dealio... so it is not that bad....Axe is $3 and lasts a whoole month :P...</p>

<p>Of course not having TV service is a bummer. My dad likes to burn dvds for his own pleasure... I can use them when i feel like to...</p>

<p>I cant see what else a teenager wants except a CAR. Which I CANNOT afford to buy ( I dont earn enough money -_-)</p>

<p><em>EDIT</em>- My XMAS gift is a whopping $25. CHinese new years - $1 perhaps.... Birthday my parents paid for my bday party so i guess that was cool :)</p>

<p>QUOTE----------""""""I can't stand when parents post their children's stats and talk about all of their kid's accomplishments. They are too involved in the process and need to relax and do something besides posting on CC. Posting concerns about college is so distant from anything that my parents would do that whenever I see a parent posting for his/her child it makes me grimace. Whatever."""""" QUOTE</p>

<p>That's exactly my feeling and why I started this thread, I'm always thinking, Do these Kids even Know that their Mom or Dad is talking about them on an Online college Forum.</p>

<p>I mean my parents could care Less what My GPA is. They look at my report Card post it on the Fridge and say congratulations. </p>

<p>Somehow I just think it is Really Strange if a parent is going online and posting what their son or Daughter got on their SAT, what their Weighted or Unweighted GPA is and how many hours of Community Service that the parent Made them do. </p>

<p>If your smart enough to get into a College like and IVY that would actually cost over 20 or 30 thousand a year. then you should be capable of going online yourself. </p>

<p>Sometimes I think if their son or daughter Knew that their parent was Talking about them online they would be pretty annoyed.</p>

<p>I agree with the kids who intimate that they want a college place of their own. Y'all can have that cesspool of darkness you call the cafe' or that uber weird high school life. Most of the parents don't tread in either place. We'll coexist on the rest, if that's o.k.. And students it's perfectly O.K. to say "I just want to hear from students on this one 'rents." We won't be offended. Deal?</p>

<p>I have no problem with parents being on this forum. CC even has a "parents forum" section in which parents interact with each other, sharing information...etc.</p>

<p>Parents have full right to care about their children and they often DO care about their children and where they go to college. I mean, people with parents like these are BLESSED.. There are plenty of ppl in the world who are neglected by their parents and who have permanent scar in their heart that would never heal in their lifetime- or maybe they are just IMMATURE!!(like some people somewhere above me. and i won't specify who they are..). </p>

<p>Although being tooo overly protective and nosy is just not right, caring and even slightly bragging// is totally fine since parents did have a part in their child's success. I wouldn't consider myself a great success or anything, but I'm so thankful to my parents for being so supportive all the time.</p>

<p>Though I'm not discouraging independence or anything// What I'm saying is that parents do have right to CARE for their children.</p>

<p>I guess I should ask, curmudgeon. Does your daughter Think that it is weird that you have 2,000 posts on college confidential.</p>

<p>damitssam:
Note the first three words of my post. "To the OP." You do not have to retaliate as if I were personally attacking you. Obviously your case may be different. <em>Sighs</em> Where do I begin? Of course for someone as bitter as you sound, nothing I say will do any good. But I would like to correct a few obvious mistakes in your... er, logic, just to put my conscience at rest. I would hate for you to assume that you were correct simply because no one bothered to, well, correct you. </p>

<p>"Right, the kids did nothing to get to their dream college. I mean, obviously the parents did it all for them.....riiiighht."</p>

<p>Please reread my original post for clarification. Oh wait, you posted it on your reply. That's funny..as if you were citing something I had said, almost as if you were trying to make a connection between "have every right to brag about them" and your interesting but baseless assertion. By all means, point out where I stated that the student 'did nothing' and the parents "did it all." Obviously, if this were the case, I would not bother to be on this website. I would be reading a good book and catching up on my sleep while my parents write essays, make the grades, and research colleges for me. Duh. Please, keep your attempts at making others look stupid restricted to instances in which they have actually said something stupid. What was meant (and I thought made perfectly clear, but evidently not) was EXACTLY what was said. Not that parents can be overtly obnoxious about it. You raise someone for 18 years (and before you object, I KNOW there are many exceptions), you shape them, you make sacrifices, and you have earned the right to be proud when they succeed. This is not always, not even most of the time, the case with parents, but if they are on this website you at least know they care, even if it is only in an oppressive way.</p>

<p>"Sounds like you hate yourself. "</p>

<p>Again, please reread my post. "...teenagers CAN be." I did not personally claim to be any of these. While I am not so CONCEITED as to say I am none, I do my best to avoid displaying such characteristics whenever possible.</p>

<p>"Why are you even basing your decision on ANY other person's comments. Go to the schools you are interested in. Visit and spay a few days there. Then decide for yourself, not your parents..."</p>

<p>Ahh. I am glad you pointed this out. Please everyone, keep in mind that it would be a very bad idea to base ANY of your college decisions solely on information obtained on CC. The actions suggested by damitssam are crucial steps. That is why I said "INPUT" in my post. No one with any measure of independence (which, by the way, is quite possible to have without bashing your parents) should base decisions on ANY other person's comments.</p>

<p>I'm sorry that your parents are less helpful than many. Mine are similarly so, at least compared to many here. That is one reason why I respect the helpful ones here, while recognizing the fact that not every parent here is bent on being so. Please do not take offense at those of us who appreciate help from others...which is after all what some of us are here for.
Let's try to keep at least a tiny bit of logic and intelligence in our conversations here, not just use an otherwise helpful site as a place to spout off at the world.</p>

<p>redbricks-</p>

<p>I guess I was just venting out my anger and made some stupid suggestions.</p>

<p>Again sorry, and yea I get jealous of my better to do friends... and my family isnt poor either. I guess i should be grateful i have nice roof under my head.</p>

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I can't stand when parents post their children's stats and talk about all of their kid's accomplishments. They are too involved in the process and need to relax and do something besides posting on CC. Posting concerns about college is so distant from anything that my parents would do that whenever I see a parent posting for his/her child it makes me grimace. Whatever.

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<p>because everyone knows there's only 1 way to be a parent. If your parents don't do it, that obviously makes it a horrible thing. Parents can use their free time however they see fit.</p>