<p>Salam guys!</p>
<p>Does anyone know entry requirements for mature students/adult learners at UC campuses? (for Ugrad studies of course).</p>
<p>@Maaz ooo it would be great if you can help. By the way, are you the Maaz Ahmed who got into WUSTL last year from lgs jt?</p>
<p>@udyr I never checked the requirements for the UCs for they offer no need based financial aid.</p>
<p>@AltoLime I see. Thank you, mate :)</p>
<p>@AltoLime You don’t need to decide your major for sure right now, trust me… People of our age are very erratic about their future plans… Accounting major is indeed a good choice, but who knows? You might end up doing an Economics Major…</p>
<p>@Maaz WUSTL doesn’t give nay financial aid to international students :)</p>
<p>@hassan100 - yes they do</p>
<p>[International</a> Student Financial Aid | Undergraduate Admissions | Washington University in St. Louis](<a href=“http://admissions.wustl.edu/scholarships-financial-aid/Financial-Aid/Pages/International-Student-Financial-Aid.aspx]International”>http://admissions.wustl.edu/scholarships-financial-aid/Financial-Aid/Pages/International-Student-Financial-Aid.aspx)</p>
<p>it goes without saying that it’s limited and very competitive…</p>
<p>if i remember correctly, i think last year someone over here got like 54k/year…</p>
<p>Really? That’s great… But it’s still better to apply to universities that have assisted more students in terms of financial aid… It’s very rare to get financial aid from universities like WUTSL :)</p>
<p>Applied to UPenn. And now I wait for the ‘You have been rejected, boohoo’ email. =/ I don’t know if you guys have this feeling but on the last few days, my essays began to appear horrible to me. They are too focused on a thought process and completely ignore the story element. Bah.</p>
<p>@AltoLime You are not alone, my friends 
I have dreams of being rejected by all the all the places I applied to ALL THE TIME.
Hope for the best, I guess.
But WUSTL is worth applying at least. Even if aid isn’t guaranteed.</p>
<p>Okay so, there’s a guy uhm let’s call him ‘X’, he’s a very good chap and a quintessential Pakistani day dreamer. He enrolled at a University 2yrs ago and had a decent CGPA of 3.8 out of 4.0(2 semesters or an academic year)(BBA). Unfortunately, he dropped out of university to support his family. Now that he’s financially stable and back on track, he wants to continue his education but in a different field (Computer engineering preferably in U.S). Is it too late for him to start from the scratch? What would you guys suggest?</p>
<p>Looking forward to hearing your advice.</p>
<p>Was he enrolled in a Pakistani university or US university?</p>
<p>Does he have any academic background in science? BBA is bachelors in business administration I guess.</p>
<p>So basically he went to university for 1 year and then took a gap year right?</p>
<p>Either way, he is considered as a transfer student. Thats not a bad thing per se…he had a decent gpa so I dont know why he would want to start from scratch anyway </p>
<p>Yes he can change fields and do Computer engineering, granted that he has the required high school courses for that. Physics and Maths I guess will be required.</p>
<p>Then again, he will have to do his research and check out each universitys individual requirements. Some universities say that someone who was enrolled in a full time uni is automatically a transfer student and some say that only students with a certain number of transferable credits are transfer students…</p>
<p>Depending on how many of his first year credits are transferable and where he applies, he can either apply as a first year international freshman or an international transfer student .</p>
<p>Another point to remember will be that a lot of universities dont give financial aid to transfer students. Again its up to him to do his research and apply accordingly.</p>
<p>He may also be required to send SAT/ACT scores. So if he hasnt given them yet, now would be a good time to register for that.</p>
<p>To summarize, yes he can apply to US universities, but it will be a long hard process. Success is dependent upon his research!</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Guys has anyone from Pakistan ever got into ivies with 1800-1900 SAT score? If one has strong grades extracirriculars and essays but SAT score in this range… WHat is the possiblity of getting into ivies?</p>
<p>@EarlyAction95 Thank you for your prompt reply, mate.</p>
<p>EarlyAction95:Was he enrolled in a Pakistani university or US university?
Udyr: Pakistani University.</p>
<p>EarlyAction95: Does he have any academic background in science? BBA is bachelors in business administration I guess.</p>
<p>Udyr: Yes and Yes!</p>
<p>EarlyAction95:So basically he went to university for 1 year and then took a gap year right?
Udyr: Well, he went to a university for 1 year and then he dropped out, he didnt freeze the semester. In other words, he isnt enrolled there anymore.</p>
<p>EarlyAction95:Either way, he is considered as a transfer student. Thats not a bad thing per se…he had a decent gpa so I dont know why he would want to start from scratch anyway </p>
<p>Udyr: Indeed. But he wants to change field and do Computer Software engineering and with BBA (1st yr) transcript he cannot apply to computer software engineering course as a transfer student .So, applying as a freshman would be a wise choice. What do you think? </p>
<p>EarlyAction95:He may also be required to send SAT/ACT scores. So if he hasnt given them yet, now would be a good time to register for that.
Udyr: In addition to SAT/ACT scores, universities also require TOEFL/IELTS scores, right? Is it mandatory?</p>
<p>EarlyAction95:To summarize, yes he can apply to US universities, but it will be a long hard process. Success is dependent upon his research!</p>
<p>Udyr: I couldnt agree more. Do you know of well reputed universities in US offering Computer software engineering degrees? (I know thats a lot to ask but I would very much like your input on this).</p>
<p>Thanks, mate. Youve been very helpful (Y)</p>
<p>^^ I doubt more than a handful of people around the world have gotten into the ivies with a 1800-1900 SAT score.</p>
<p>I just had my Yale SCEA interview yesterday here in Lahore, and I’m not at all happy with how it went. It was my first interview, and I don’t think I communicated a clear or accurate image of myself to the alumna. Firstly, I’m diagnosed with depression and anxiety, and on most days, I don’t take any medication because I rarely have anything so important to do. Unfortunately, I didn’t take my medication yesterday either because I felt fine at home but started really panicking on the way there.</p>
<p>When I got to her house (the interview was to be held there), I was sweating and shaking like a madman. I was stuttering, and the volume of my voice switched between whisper quiet and too loud. I focused too much on one activity which she didn’t seem too interested in rather than another in which she was. Overall, I was very awkward, and the interview was over in less than 30 minutes.</p>
<p>I know interviews don’t contribute much to the final decision, but still, I don’t want any blemishes on my app.</p>
<p>Anyway, how about we post our stats? Also, is anyone else applying to Yale?</p>
<p>Hassan100 – it really boils down to his EC’s and essays…….there have been stories of people getting in with that score range (not Pakistanis tho) but they have had a very “out of this world” hook…as in they founded their own company with a 6 digit profit ect…</p>
<p>Look at it this way, they have no shortage of applicants with amazing scores PLUS amazing ECS’s/essays, soo why would they accept someone with mediocre scores and good EC’s? in this case, the EC’s/essay will have to make up for the low scores and really convince the ad com of your worth!</p>
<p>That being said, there’s also a certain amount of “luck” involved. You never know what might stand out from your app and make them give u an acceptance…</p>
<p>One last thing, always remember that the ad coms are looking to make a perfect/diverse class. In other words, what really matters is what your potential contribution in terms of diversity….see all the spots for the “smart people” are already filled by students who got 2400 in SAT, 4 800 SAT subject, 12 AP’s, junior scientist of the year etc…it will be foolish to try and compete for those spots… so try and concentrate on other aspects of your app that might distinguish you from your competition.</p>
<p>@flyboy just relax, I have heard that the interview is only a slight add on to the application. I am not a fan of posting or reading stats since one’s stats could be discouraging to others and other’s stats can be discouraging to oneself, but if everyone is posting them, then I have no issue.</p>
<p>Udyr2k14 – from what I know, it really isn’t his choice whether to apply as a freshmen or transfer. It depends on how the uni looks at him as. (he needs to research the “transfer” criteria for each uni). Just by changing from BBA to computer engineering doesn’t make him a first time freshman…</p>
<p>Speaking of which, they do have terms such as ”first time freshman” and “transfer freshman”, basically you can be a transfer and still be a freshman which is what I think will probably be the case here. Even if his BBA credits aren’t transferable to computer engineering, some unis will assume him as a transfer because he attended another uni.</p>
<p>Yes he will need to give the TOEFL as well, if he can afford it that is. It is required at many places, but some unis waive it if one gets 600+ in the English section of SAT… giving the TOEFL will be the safest route tho.</p>
<p>There are many universities offering computer engineering. But in order to shortlist them you need to consider a number of factors. SAT scores being arguably the biggest one. Another one would be financial aid. Like I said before a lot of universities don’t give financial aid to transfer students. </p>
<p>The obviously choice/aim would be the ivies coz of their reputation and the fact that they give a lot of aid, even to transfers…As a rule of thumb, remember that state universities DON’T give any need based financial aid to internationals. Also, from what I have seen is that, the better ranked the university, the more chances of financial aid being given. Then again, the better ranked a uni, the harder it is to get into!</p>
<p>@EarlyAction95 Considering the statistics on the last year’s official thread of ivies like Yale, 1800 or 2400 on 2400 on the SAT wouldn’t guarantee admission… Trust me… Last year… A school friend got into 4 ivies with 100% aid.(even duke offered 100%, Penn, Cornell, Brown) with a 1940 on her SAT… She had amazing essays and was a minority group( an edge, indeed)… Even in class of 2017 thread of yale, there was a nigerian guy who was accepted and a 2400 Indian rejected… All you need is something that stands out, an edge that makes you unique from other applicants…</p>
<p>Hassan100- errmmm that’s actually exactly what I said :s</p>
<p>“it really boils down to his EC’s and essays”</p>
<p>“what really matters is your potential contribution in terms of diversity”</p>
<p>I didn’t say that a 2400 will guarantee an acceptance. Instead what I said is that as each year goes by, the number of 2400’s is increasing and it would be foolish to expect an acceptance on the bases of “smartness”…</p>
<p>You say “All you need is something that stands out, an edge that makes you unique from other applicants…”</p>
<p>I said “try and concentrate on other aspects of your app that might distinguish you from your competition.”</p>
<p>Sounds pretty similar doesn’t it? Feel free to read my previous reply again…</p>
<p>Have a nice day!</p>
<p>P.S. You asked a question. I took time to write you an answer to the best of my knowledge… Next time, if you already know the answer, please don’t bother asking…</p>