<p>LazyKid, I know someone who has access to Berkeley student bank. Tell me their names and let me dig them up for you. That is, if you’re for real. </p>
<p>Again, the image of Cornell is - it is just a dumping ground for Berkeley rejects. I don’t know which planet are you from that you did not know this.</p>
<p>Here’s a real fact for you. I know 6 people from Bronx who lives in a meager life and were so-so in HS and are now seniors at Cornell. They haven’t even been accepted at Furdham and Colgate. They didn’t apply to Berkeley because they are very poor and they couldn’t afford a Berkeley education, aside from the fact that they don’t have the brains to survive the Berkeley education, which is rated one of the best in the world.</p>
<p>To conclude: None of Cornell’s departments crack top 10. UCB’s are all in Top 5 in the world. Now you decide if you think your link is legitimate :). If so, then UCB trumps Cornell in every department. If not, as I wrote above, it is based off of an incredibly small sample size that does not accurately reflect the genuine sentiment of the world population.</p>
<p>It seems to me that you’re more interested in how people perceive these schools, rather than their actual departmental prestige. This is reflected by the link that you posted. I’ll repeat: 50% of the overall ranking from your British World Rankings are based on 12,500 surveys. I don’t mind what you do, but I know I prefer a great school over perceived prestige any day.</p>
<p>How about Duke, Northwestern, Georgetown, etc? Those schools are dumping ground for Berkeley rejects, too??</p>
<p>FYI, I attended Georgetown freshmen year, transferred to Cornell last year. The kids at Georgetown (and most East Coast peop I met) view Cornell in line with schools such as NU, U Chicago, Duke, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, and UPenn. Berkeley, on the other hand, they view along with UCLA, UMichigan, USC, and most don’t know much about it at all.</p>
<p>You work at Berkeley, don’t ya. You have access to Berkeley student bank accounts, you must be an admin at Berkeley or something. I think I now know where you are coming from with your insane posts. Maybe you are not insane. Just extremely biased, cuz you work there. </p>
<p>No, I do not have to provide their names. (And why would I? I would be so dumb if I did…for concerns of privacy, identity theft, etc) I bet you can find plenty of sub-par community college-type transfers at Berkeley campus, with little effort. I am afraid you can even find some on this forum…</p>
<p>I am from USA. My family, I suspect, has lived in USA longer than you have… My great grandparents immigrated here from Ireland. And, fyi, I lived in California all my life and now live in East Coast.</p>
<p>It is YOU that need to answer my question: what part of planet are from to have these idiotic/non-American viewpoints? I doubt you are an Englishmen, because your perception of Cornell =/= the perception of Cornell in England.</p>
<p>Well, I for one am from California and was accepted into Cal EECS w/ a Regents scholarship, however I chose to go to Cornell (also doing ECE).</p>
<p>I don’t see how people can really compare the education of two top notch schools unless you’ve attended both. Even so, your experience can be further influenced by luck. Sometimes you just happen to draw the ****ty professor or sometimes you just happen to luck out with some really awesome friends.</p>
<p>And I also want to say that an education anywhere also depends on what you make out of it. I’ve gone out of my way to join some really awesome (and not so awesome) student projects and research labs. I’ve met and worked with some incredibly smart people and also some people who are dumb as rocks.</p>
<p>Overall, I’d say I am very happy with my education and experience here (at Cornell). I’ve picked up a valuable skill set, a good network, and some great friends. But if I were at Berkeley, I’d probably be just as successful and content there, but there’s no point in wondering about that.</p>
<p>One thing I wonder is, how many of these people who supposedly turn down ivies for the opportunity to go to Cal are from California? I’ve spent a lot of time in California, and one thing I’ve noticed is that people in California spend a LOT of time talking about how superior their state is to other states. I’m not saying that residents of other states don’t take pride in their states. I’m not even saying that a lot of people in other states don’t think their state is superior (Easterners thinking that their states are more intellectual, Midwesterners priding themselves on being the “heartland,” Texans–well, they’re in a special category all their own!). But I’ve never been to another state where even strangers will come up to you if they know you’re from out of state and say things like, “You must be so happy you’re here,” as if you’re a refugee from some great horror, like snow. Truly, California is a gorgeous state and it is full of natural wonders and great food, so that pride is very understandable. And the Ivies are very, very, very far away and alien in culture to California. I can easily understand that there would be a fear of culture shock, cold weather, and other things. So, my guess is that a fair number of people might turn down Ivies because they live in California and they fear or don’t want to live in the east.</p>
<p>You can ignore me. Nobody is sticking a gun to your head to read my posts. The only reason I read/ responded to your post was I was shocked/ and rather entertained by the sheer ignorance, insanity, and extreme bias of your posts… Not just in this tread, but at large countless many other threads… I think you may be the biggest ■■■■■ on this forum. </p>
<p>On every thread, you mention Berkeley’s superiority, even comparing it to the likes of HYPS. Then, there you go to say that Cornell is a dumping ground for Berkeley rejects. You say that you went to Oxford or whatever and pretend to know all about this so called “international prestige/superiority” of Berkeley over Cornell. But, I seriously doubt that you EVER went to Oxford. In fact, I think you went to Berkeley and you seem to be working there as of now… HAHAHA.</p>
<p>For you to be saying that Cornell students go to Cornell because they were rejected by Berkeley is same as a person telling a BMW driver: “Man, you are driving a BMW because you couldn’t afford to buy a Honda Accord”</p>
<p>As ridiculous and insane as this sounds, I guess some people have their minds messed up…</p>
<p>Oh, and you mentioned from another thread that UMichigan beats Dartmouth and Brown in prestige?? Seriously, dude, on what planet do YOU live on???</p>
<p>LazyKid, you’re not only lazy you’re also a liar. When did I say I went to Oxford? </p>
<p>Again, give me the names of your two cousins who are currently enrolled in Berkeley who told you that their classmates aren’t up to par to theirs.</p>
<p>Maybe I am wrong. But, I did read several times how you mention you went to Oxford or Cambridge or something like that. I refuse to waste my time digging into your post history to find it. But, you know what I am talking about.</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA. That is great for them. To be honest, back in high school, I was rejected from University of Texas at Austin (I honestly don’t know what happened) and UCLA, but I was admitted to Georgetown, Northwestern, Duke, University of Chicago, UC Berkeley, U Michigan, Cornell, and got waitlisted at Dartmouth. But, I could care less about these two rejections because I had far better choices to choose from. </p>
<p>Another story: the valedictorian from my high school got rejected from Johns Hopkins, Brown, Dartmouth, and Duke. But, he got into Yale and Stanford. He’s a junior at Yale now. Your anecdotes about those guys prove nothing but the good fortune they had. HAHAHA. </p>
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<p>Berkeley is not even the best school in the Bay Area. It is second best, significantly lagging behind Stanford. Berkeley is arguably third/fourth best in the state of California after Stanford and CalTech. And, even that is debatable. Some will argue to death that UCLA, USC, Pomona College, CMC, Harvey Mudd, etc are on par, if not better in some aspects, compared to UC Berkeley. </p>
<p>If it does not even have a legit claim to be the best in the state of California, how can it claim to be one of the very best in the entire universe? (By comparing Berkeley to HYPSM status… or “one of the best in the world”, you may be officially insane.)</p>
<p>One last thing. Anyone could graduate from Berkeley or Cornell or any other school. Just major in Asian studies/American studies or something else really easy. Only take easy classes and avoid difficult courses. With some moderate amount of work, I bet almost ANYONE can graduate from either Berkeley or Cornell or even Harvard, granted with poor to mediocre grades.</p>
<p>Please realize that you’re really just posting nonsense at this point. Rather, if anything, all you’re doing is marring Cornell’s image. For the record, no one actually says “HAHAHAHAHAHA.” Makes you sound ridiculously juvenile. Also, it’s Caltech – not CalTech. I’m only correcting you because it’s a personal peeve.</p>
<p>So Cornell isn’t only full of Berkeley rejects, it’s also full of UCLA and UT-Austin rejects. lol
Keep it coming ■■■■■. I’m enjoying this. seriously. hahaha…</p>
<p>and if it wasn’t still clear to you, my post prior to this one just meant to show you that Cornell is also the choice of the unfortunately ones.</p>
Yes; you’re wrong as you’ve always been. I never said I went to oxford. I haven’t even applied there. lol</p>
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so, you really are living up to your name, huh, lazy kid?<br>
lazy kids - like you - don’t have spots at Berkeley, and that explains why the smarter, better, diligent ones are at Berkeley and not at Cornell. lol</p>