<p>Heheh, you guys should read this</a>...summarizes this thread perfectly. Seriously.</p>
<p>tl;dr : Meat-eaters eat meat because it tastes good, and are apathetic about the morality of it. Then on the internet they feel the urge to justify their actions by suddenly making weird excuses (meat has lots of vitamins! eating meat is NATURAL! meat is cool!!!) or accusing vegetarians/vegans of being stupid, preachy and skinny.</p>
<p>There's no reason to be hating on vegetarians, so lighten up! :)</p>
<p>(if it's relevant, I really enjoy seafood and lamb, beef less so)</p>
<p>dreamingoutloud-- sorry i, forgot about this thread.</p>
<p>it wasn't that hard at all. i was already a vegetarian for about 6 months, and the next logical step for me was to become a vegan. the only difficulty i have is going out to eat..sometimes just ordering fries gets repetitive. but i've found that checking out menus ahead of time really helps.</p>
<p>oh, and it's kind of annoying to not have chocolate any more. and not being able to eat baked goods that other, non-vegan people make. but it's worth it :) plus the baked goods i make are usually a lot tastier than the stuff with eggs and butter!</p>
<p>Lol, see this is my only qualm about saying anti-vegetarian things, because meatatarians are equally idiotic about "natural" and "finite life" BS.</p>
<p>As for individual vegetarians I dont hate them but I wouldn't say "vegetarianism is awesome" even as a joke. I mean...pretty much every vegetarian I have the displeasure of knowing still consumes the 3 Cs of fail. Yet they think they're better than me when I don't engage in said consumption and only eat meat 3-4 times a week?</p>
<p>I don't mind vegetarians and vegans so much when they really have a purpose. On the other hand, I have a vegan friend who won't even say why she's vegan. I think it's just a ploy to be better than everyone else. By saying she's a vegan, she feels morally superior to everyone else. She constantly goes around saying things like, "Don't eat that pizza! Do you know how many animals you're torturing?" or "I'm probably going to live longer than all of you because I'm a vegan." Yet when someone asks her why she's vegan, she says, "I'm just programmed now to think that eggs and milk are bad."</p>
<p>There's a fine line between being vegetarian or vegan for a cause and being vegetarian or vegan just to increase self-esteem.</p>
<p>lol @ eggs and milk being bad. Replacing those with soy "equivalents" (you vegans think these aren't artificially modified?) isn't going to make a huge difference in how long you live. There are things that can be done for that buuuut revealing them on CC is beneath me.</p>
<p>Shala, there is actually a lot of evidence that says vegetarians and vegans live longer than meat eaters. It probably has more to do with the fact that they eat healthier overall, but it really does significantly affect how long one lives.</p>
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see this is my only qualm about saying anti-vegetarian things, because meatatarians are equally idiotic about "natural" and "finite life" BS.
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<p>Well... that was obviously a directed attack, but I have no idea how to respond because I don't know what you are saying. You eat meat too... and you're attacking someone else's justification for doing so. So I'll just tell you to **** off.</p>
<p>I agree with the idea behind being a vegetarian/vegan (that we shouldn't harm other living creatures for food if we can avoid it), but I'm a very picky eater, and if I didn't eat meat I'd have about two foods that I would eat for the rest of my life. So, unless and until I get over my picky tastes, I can't go vegan/vegetarian.</p>
<p>"Shala, there is actually a lot of evidence that says vegetarians and vegans live longer than meat eaters. It probably has more to do with the fact that they eat healthier overall, but it really does significantly affect how long one lives."</p>
<p>My great grandma ate some type of meat practically every day and lived until she was 93. If that's not a long life, then I don't know what is.</p>
<p>The key is moderation. Anything in excess will kill you.</p>
<p>What's the point of ever saying "excess is not good"? The very definition of excess is "TOO much". Too much exercise is bad. Too much brandy is bad. Too much carrot juice is bad. Too much CC is bad. Etc. etc.</p>
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My great grandma ate some type of meat practically every day and lived until she was 93. If that's not a long life, then I don't know what is.
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<p>Glad someone else came through with the GG.</p>
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You eat meat too... and you're attacking someone else's justification for doing so. So I'll just tell you to **** off.
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<p>Lol @ maaaaad yalie, but your justification fails.</p>
<p>all the guys i know havent evolved past jokes like 'dont date a vegetarian they wont eat your meat' which they find even funnier because i'm the only vegetarian they know</p>
<p>then i made the mistake of telling them their joke was true.</p>
<p>and now theres a dirty-minded joke about tofu. </p>
<p>I'm a vegan. I enjoy living a life in which I avoid harming other creatures I don't have to. I also do it for the environment, its a much more sustainable lifestyle. I also do it for health reasons. I think that vegans who actually do their research and make an effort to get their vitamins and protein live healthier lives than omnivores, especially with the way meat is produced today.</p>
<p>I don't look down on others that eat meat though. I hate when people tell me how to eat, and so I wouldn't do the same to someone else. If someone asks me a question out of curiosity I'm more than willing to answer though. Lots of people that I love are omnivores and I don't hold it against them.</p>
<p>I do hope one day that we will switch over to a primarily vegetarian diet. I don't think the way the US gets and produces meat is healthy for people, or for the environment.</p>
<p>I even prefer when people hunt for food than buy it from a store..</p>
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I agree with the idea behind being a vegetarian/vegan (that we shouldn't harm other living creatures for food if we can avoid it), but I'm a very picky eater, and if I didn't eat meat I'd have about two foods that I would eat for the rest of my life. So, unless and until I get over my picky tastes, I can't go vegan/vegetarian.
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<p>I used to be very picky, too. There were only a few veggies and fruits I liked, so it was initially hard for me to be a vegetarian. I had very limited options. But eventually you get tired of the same old stuff, and so you try different things even if you do not really like the taste of them. And then after awhile, you end up liking them. Acquired tastes, I guess. Now there aren't many veggies or fruits I don't like.</p>
<p>I'm like that too Jman (only I still hate pretty much every fruit...)
I try not to talk about being a vegetarian because alot of people really get onto me about it. Like I've been yelled at and called stupid for it. Plus a vegan in my lit class always says I'm not a true vegetarian becuase I eat spicy beef flavored ramen but she eats chicken so why is she getting onto me all the time? I don't know either....</p>