<p>Ouch....
My head still hurts so much from all that drinking last night.
I raged really hard at my friend's house.</p>
<p>Haha 174IQPartier where do you live? If you live in the continental United States then you were on CC at the latest at 10:00 AM. That's how I follow up my hard nights of partying too. You should play Second Life.</p>
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Are there girls in colleges that are attractive and smart and whatnot, that respect themselves enough to not have one night stands?
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<p>i'm curious to know if you would judge your guy friends this way, too? </p>
<p>i'm a girl (whom some people would say is "attractive and smart and whatnot") who has had a couple "one-night-stands," but they weren't because i don't have any self-respect. in fact, they were the opposite--i knew i wanted to hook up that night and consciously decided to do so with no strings attached, not because i wanted validation from some guy.. </p>
<p>you sound like a misogynist to me..</p>
<p>lol... yeah having one night stands doesn't mean that a woman disrespects herself. I wouldn't wanna date one who does, though. Not like I'd ever know the truth, though, so I guess it doesn't matter.</p>
<p>I'm from New Jersey.
I've been going through some funny sleep cycles this weekend- four hours at a time.</p>
<p>leah377: I can respect you if you can admit that you only wanted to hook up for one reason, because you were horny that night. If you have 'other reasons', you don't really have the self-respect you say you have.</p>
<p>hahaha I suppose you like the cardinals or something</p>
<p>Drank in high school. Still drink. Guess that makes me a slacker? :)</p>
<p>"If a guy chooses to have a one-night stand, is he also showing a lack of self-respect? or are you just revealing your sexist side here?"</p>
<p>I chose to leave guys out of my question for one reason...</p>
<p>I'm not interested in them. Lol.</p>
<p>"i'm curious to know if you would judge your guy friends this way, too? </p>
<p>i'm a girl (whom some people would say is "attractive and smart and whatnot") who has had a couple "one-night-stands," but they weren't because i don't have any self-respect. in fact, they were the opposite--i knew i wanted to hook up that night and consciously decided to do so with no strings attached, not because i wanted validation from some guy.. </p>
<p>you sound like a misogynist to me.."</p>
<p>If you want to, go right ahead. I'm just totally turned off by girls that want to hook up with random guys. </p>
<p>And I'm no misogynist... I have a girlfriend, and plenty of female friends. </p>
<p>I don't think it's necessarily ok for guys to do it either, but I'm not interested in guys so that's relatively unimportant to me.</p>
<p>So a guy can do whatever he wants, basically, because you're not interested in him? But girls have to maintain perfect decorum? Your logic baffles me.</p>
<p>He means that because he doesn't sleep with guys, he doesn't care about their personal integrity.</p>
<p>For example, I will never buy a Ford, so I don't care which Fords are good/bad, fast/slow, big/small. I do care about Japanese/European cars, so I will look for those qualities in them.</p>
<p>Simple logic.</p>
<p>I think the views on this board are a little skewed- there seems to be a lot of drinkers. But do note that it's perfectly okay to not drink and have a normal college life. Heck, you can be a geek and still be cool with everything- I rarely drink/party, but my grades are good, and I'm really cool with my friends. I have friends who think an ideal weekend is getting smashed, and I have friends who think an ideal weekend is playing an epic game of Dota, counter-strike, or Company of Heroes (I am the latter type). I even know people who manage to do both at the same time- and still manage to pull in good grades in hard majors.</p>
<p>The best part about college is that you can be friends with whoever you want. If you don't want to get smashed all the time, then don't. If you do, go right ahead. And it's no longer like HS, where all the "cool kids" have to be a certain way. It's perfectly okay to have very close friends that you can relate the most to, and have other friends that are only casual friends. I relate most to the "geeky" kids, but I have casual friends who are partyers, sports people, etc. In college, there is no such thing as a "loser" because college is (usually) so diverse that everyone has their own niche.</p>
<p>TLDR: Chill out, have fun, do what you enjoy.</p>
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I think that kids who actually are social will be more successful in a later career because they can actually interact with people and have fun.
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<p>Shalashaska is:</p>
<p>-social
-someone who doesn't drink
-always having fun on the weekends</p>
<p>I think you need to re-examine your definitions there kid.</p>
<p>lol looks like I'm a walking contradiction.</p>
<p>No, you can be social without drinking, but not if you judge those who do drink. People drink and are still successful, better get used to it.</p>
<p>Successful as in doctors, lawyers, mayors, politicians, businesspeople, CEOs, etc. Basically the people who run society.</p>
<p>^This is all very true. </p>
<p>I know my fair share of those types of people you defined as "successful" who don't drink either. Your argument in defense of drinking is to justify it by bringing up examples of people who are "successful," which is completely irrelevant because even a single counterexample proves that one can achieve the same success without the alcohol (and add a few years onto the lifespan).</p>
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it doesnt even mean you're social. most likely, you're a bit antisocial if you have such a boring personality that you have to resort to alcohol in order to have fun and interact with other people. anyway, if the majority of people drink, then the majority of people in almost any subgroup will drink...even those who "run society". there's really nothing wrong with the occasional wine or something (if you're fine with unneeded calories, etc) but there's really no logical reason to get wasted unless you're antisocial and you enjoy harming your body.
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<p>^^have you ever actually been drunk? if you had, i don't think you'd be so judgmental. </p>
<p>newsflash: getting drunk is FUN! that's why people do it!</p>
<p>i don't care if you choose not to drink yourself (some of my friends don't really drink, either), but get off your high horse..</p>
<p>Amusing ignorance is amusing.</p>
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just because they're successful doesn't mean it's healthy or good to drink. just drinking soda can give you kidney stones and adds excessive acid i don't need in my body; think of what most drinks, many of which include soda, will do. not to mention, all those empty calories! gross. btw, just because those people drink doesn't mean your'e going to be successful. it doesnt even mean you're social. most likely, you're a bit antisocial if you have such a boring personality that you have to resort to alcohol in order to have fun and interact with other people. anyway, if the majority of people drink, then the majority of people in almost any subgroup will drink...even those who "run society". there's really nothing wrong with the occasional wine or something (if you're fine with unneeded calories, etc) but there's really no logical reason to get wasted unless you're antisocial and you enjoy harming your body.
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<p>Alright, first of all the health argument isn't really a good one because basically anything you can do nowadays can or will kill you at some point. Alcohol is no exception, but it certainly isn't alone. </p>
<p>Also, saying that people who drink are antisocial is pretty much the opposite of the truth. The few people I know who don't drink generally don't abstain because they are against it; they just aren't invited to hang out an partake in it and spend a lot of their time at home being anti-social. People who drink are more social than those who don't in college. There is no point arguing it. Just take a look around your residence hall on a Friday night and see who is stuck by themselves. Surprise, it will be the judgmental "holier-than-thou" non-drinkers. </p>
<p>Also, look at fraternities and sororities. There is a reason that employers and grad schools like seeing greek involvement in college; people in Greek organizations generally do other things like student government, intramural sports, etc. And, they pretty much all drink. Generally the people who aren't involved in anything are the ones who don't drink and think that they are better than the people that do; those people generally have very few friends in college.</p>
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I know my fair share of those types of people you defined as "successful" who don't drink either. Your argument in defense of drinking is to justify it by bringing up examples of people who are "successful," which is completely irrelevant because even a single counterexample proves that one can achieve the same success without the alcohol (and add a few years onto the lifespan)
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<p>Of course there are people who burn out and become dregs to society. I'm just trying to show that in the majority of cases, people who drink in college end up running things when they graduate. It would be a mistake to write off someone just because he/she drinks, because eventually you are likely to end up working for this person.</p>
<p>I don't drink or do drugs at college. I don't care that other people do (I got to IU so everyone (and I do mean everyone) I know drinks 3-5 times a week), and I actually have fun going to parties where people are drinking because some carzy things happen, but I don't want to spend a lot of money and end up with bad grades and not being able to remember half of these four years. Also, my family has a bad drug/alcohol problem.</p>