<p>lawl these ppl wont even have a cheeseburger or have coffee because its technically bad for u I can understand if you dont wanna drink but that is taking it too far</p>
<p>I am not trying to offend anyone.
After reading this thread, I am afraid for college next year
Here's my two cents on the subject:
Alcohol makes you dumb by killing brain cells, slows down your reflexes, and increases your chances of getting cancer. So, NO, you can never escape your college experience. For those of you who drink, your IQ is going down the drain
People who drink do so because they want to escape their life problems: lack of excitement, family problems....On the other hand, many people are happy and excited with their life as it is.
For girls who get involved with the hookups that follow excessive drinking because they want validation, etc should know that guys generally settle for the pretty girls who have more self-respect.
My parents have raised me with these morals. I have a good balance of academic, social, and athletic aspect. I am popular in my high school and I don't drink, etc. and I don't think anyone has to drink to be popular. I lost a cousin who was studying his second year at Harvard to a person who was drinking and driving. I think it is ridiculous that you guys are associating being "cool" with drinking. I think it is the exact opposite.</p>
<p>Yale2013girl,</p>
<p>Drinking and driving is a totally different situation. Obviously, that's completely inexcusable. You're making huge judgments about people who drink, and i'd be pretty surprised if yale does/has accepted somebody so naive.</p>
<p>peace</p>
<p>Thank you but Yale did accept me (hence the username). I do not think I am being naive because most of what I have said above is from what I have witnessed at parties. I go to parties but I DON'T drink. Unforunately, at those parties, I am the one who has to fight drunk people for their car keys. It may not have happened with people you know but it certainly applies to people I know. I am not talking about people who drink responsibly but I am talking about people who drink excessively and leave it for other to take care of them.</p>
<p>Ugh, you fools...</p>
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No i'm not getting wasted.</p>
<p>I'm okay with people over 21 drinking, but what about the people under 21? It's illegal and you know it. Whether you agree with the law or not is irrelevant. If you're under 21 you're breaking the rules. Respect the rules.</p>
<p>And my problem is with the way people act when they drink. It's obnoxious and annoying.
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<p>Haha I said that I would bow out but this is just ridiculous.</p>
<p>First of all, the drinking laws are BS. Lots of people realize this. And a drinking ticket is similar to a speeding ticket, its not really a big deal. Like someone else said, do you ever speed or jaywalk?</p>
<p>Seriously, get off your high horse.</p>
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<p>WRONG. I'm willing to bet every valedictorian that my high school had in the past 10 years drank in high school. In my fraternity, one of the guys who drinks pretty much every night just scored in the 99th percentile on his LSAT. And most people who make it out to grad school end up drinking in college. </p>
<p>Going back to the Greek theme, 75 percent of people in Congress and 80% of top Fortune 500 executives were in a Greek organization in college. And its hard to think of many people in fraternities or sororities who don't drink. If you really think these people got to where they are now by being stupid then I don't know what to tell you.
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<p>WRONG. People drink because its fun. Parties are good and help you socialize. Seriously, its a lot of fun. Obviously you wouldn't know from experience, but honestly try to at least think a little bit outside the box.</p>
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lawl these ppl wont even have a cheeseburger or have coffee because its technically bad for u I can understand if you dont wanna drink but that is taking it too far
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<p>Not at all. Considering one of my strong motives for not drinking is for athletics, the other things come into factor as well. Coffee, Soda, fast food, and BAGELS (underrated in terms of fail) are all on the same level as alcohol, the only difference being your brain isnt significantly affected by excess amounts of the first four.</p>
<p>BTW I think drinking laws are BS too. Simple economics (or freakonomics?) shows that even having a law causes more people to drink. I guess now I see why the conventional (read: stereotypical) drinker and non-drinker alike disagrees with me.</p>
<p>So obviously Yale2013 attends some preppy, upper class, conservative, predominantly White, WASP(ish) school... </p>
<p>Broaden your horizon a bit, look beyond your gated community, get off your high horse and actually think about things as if you haven't been brainwashed with these "morals" your entire life, and just maybe you'll get to see things from a different, more liberal perspective that actually makes sense. </p>
<p>Your claims about alcohol are completely unfounded. You don't take a sip and suddenly lose brain cells. Believe it or not, some women actually like sex and aren't scared to be open about their sexuality. About time, men have been at this stage since the beginning of time.</p>
<p>Are you kidding me?
I go to an extremely liberal, diverse private school in the east.
Why does everyone think I am gated?
If you had read my previous post you would see that I was talking about excessive drinking.
I get invited to every party but I don't drink. I just go to socialize.
Most guys I have met are pushy towards sex but I have the ability to say no.
I think you should "broaden your horizon" (so cliche) and accept that some people do not see the benefits of excessive drinking and casual sex out of personal choice.</p>
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<p>I don't know where this factors in. It has been my experience that people at these schools drink as much or more than people at liberal, non-preppy schools. I went to a private, preppy high school and I can count on one hand the number of people I know who didn't drink. </p>
<p>Agree with everything else you say though. Also agree with Shalshaska about drinking laws encouraging young people to drink more. I think of the drinking age was suddenly changed to 18 in the United States there would be a period (maybe about 10 years or so) of absolute craziness (kids just going wild), but eventually things would settle down and people would take a more relaxed, moderate approach to the whole thing.</p>
<p>Holy tits!</p>
<p>It's simple folks. If you want to drink, drink. It's fun. </p>
<p>If you don't want to drink, then don't. But don't get all high and mighty that it somehow makes you a better person or that you're doing yourself or the world a favor by abstaining. </p>
<p>There's absolutely zero scientific evidence that alcohol kills neurons...that's an old wives tale.</p>
<p>There is scientific literature out there that people who drink end up earning higher salaries on average (that's the ultimate way to never escape your college experience).</p>
<p>There are obviously many negative effects of alcohol.
The reason why these drinking laws exist in the first place is because too many people were getting killed in drunk-driving accidents.
It is a shame that people are so goddamn stupid!
I party and drink all the time but I would never get into a car with another drunk person or drive drunk. </p>
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Many people drink because it is a social activity and the fact that they want to be social in the first place helps increase the probability that the person will become successful in the real world. </p>
<p>There are a lot of really smart people out there who drink. My cousin got a 180 on the LSAT and he drinks just about every night. He did so at Stanford and is still doing so at Columbia Law. </p>
<p>The other side of the coin is that smart people can do stupid things. He is also completely dependent on alcohol. I think he knows as well as I do that he will have to deal with this dependency someday (like when he actually gets a job, haha)! </p>
<p> [quote=Cuse0507] WRONG. People drink because its fun. Parties are good and help you socialize. Seriously, its a lot of fun. Obviously you wouldn't know from experience, but honestly try to at least think a little bit outside the box.
Cuse0507 speaks the truth! It's why people drink and party!</p>
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<p>I am sorry you lost your cousin, :(
However, people don't simply drink to escape life problems.
Some people do it simply because it is fun.
For me, drinking's like playing football or video games. It's a recreational activity.</p>
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If you don't want to drink, then don't. But don't get all high and mighty that it somehow makes you a better person or that you're doing yourself or the world a favor by abstaining.</p>
<p>There's absolutely zero scientific evidence that alcohol kills neurons...that's an old wives tale.</p>
<p>There is scientific literature out there that people who drink end up earning higher salaries on average (that's the ultimate way to never escape your college experience).
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<p>You think you are any different? Most people hating those who abhor drinkers, hate those who are non-drinkers... thinking that because they don't drink they are inferior.</p>
<p>Wrong... drinking does damage dendrites, the branched ends of nerve cells that bring messages into the cell. While it does not kill the whole cell, it does cause a loss of the end segments, leading to the loss of incoming signals and therefore a change in brain function.</p>
<p>And the "scientific literature" that you are referring to that says people earn more money and live longer lives etc. is associated with non-binge drinking. Obviously if you are binge drinking throughout your life you won't be able to hold a job so you won't be making more money. </p>
<p>I myself don't care if people drink... hell I do. But I hate misguided individuals who push their opinions of drinking on others.</p>
<p>Here's a link to a study about alcohol increasing brain power:</p>
<p>My MOM raised me TO BE TEETOTALER!!!!</p>
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And the "scientific literature" that you are referring to that says people earn more money and live longer lives etc. is associated with non-binge drinking. Obviously if you are binge drinking throughout your life you won't be able to hold a job so you won't be making more money.
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<p>Bull. Obviously binge drinking throughout your life could be a problem, but its not really in college. Loads of very successful people got hammered in college.</p>
<p>Haha but yeah, drinking 5 nights a week in college is called life. After you graduate, its called alcoholism.</p>
<p>so beer makes you magically more successful? bull just because everyones doing it doesnt mean its healthy for you. </p>
<p>"partiers" are "successful" not because of a drink, its because they are social. and being social doesnt mean you have to drink.</p>
<p>people drink to fill a void in their life. instead of finding healthy ways of socializing and relieving stress, they revert to a quick fix like alcohol.</p>
<p>and trust me, sober people arent on their high horse i think its the other way around since sober people are in the minority reading the posts in here. it seems that you guys view sober people arent sociable, so you choose not to include them. i just dont think a drink made by big corporations should be what ur "life" is about.</p>
<p>ahaha so now its the big corporations that are the problem?</p>
<p>just drop it guys. drink if you want to. if not, we don't care. just don't stop drinking/dont drink because you think it makes you better than us.</p>
<p>oh yeah, one more thing. when most of us are referring to drinking, i assume we're talking about social and relatively healthy drinking that IS fun. binge drinking is for fools.</p>
<p>no my point is drinking doesnt equal being social and that beer is just a drink, and is not a requirement of being social.</p>
<p>also i think its funny when people post pictures of themselves on facebook or myspace posing with beer in their hands, raising it up like its some kind of magical elixir. doing drugs just to fit in, i see it every time when im at a party.</p>
<p>correct. it's not a requirement for being social. it's also not a requirement for NOT being social. people who drink aren't looking out for "easy fixes". we do it because it IS fun as long as you drink responsibly. arguably, it is more fun sometimes when you drink like a retard but that comes with a big risk of alcohol poisoning etc.</p>