<p>I read this article that wewill posted and I found it to be quite interesting. Indeed asians are marginalized everywhere and not just in college admissions. Even though asians are among the most educated in the nation, where have you seen a prominent asian anywhere in the U.S.? Politics? no Music? no Art? no Industry? no Scientists? no</p>
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<p>There are many great asian classical musicians, and asians make up a huge amount of researchers, doctors, scientists. Tons of large corporations have extremely high ranking positions.</p>
<p>wait
now i can latch onto politicians and MAYBE art, but when you say that there are no asian musicians, industry heads, or SCIENTISTS, that's just ludicrous
i would bet you that there is an equal number if not MORE asians in science than there are caucasians. I have interned at 3 different science labs, and in each there have been, out of 50 or so scientists, a maximum of 10 caucasians, the rest being asian (and a couple being black).
and business heads? are you kidding me? asians own and manage sooo many businesses today, even the really big ones!
and musicians?!?!? okay, go to a symphony orchestra and count how many asians there are playing the instruments, then count how many caucasians there are. do i need to say any more?</p>
<p>now, if the argument were about blacks or women, then it would be a much different issue, but asians??
no.</p>
<p>umm.. I said prominent. and when I was referring to Music I wasn't referring to merely classical music. remember prominent American Asians. I want you to name some that the general population would know. like politicians I can name off: Obama, Bush, Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer, Fienstein, Swarchenagger (misspelled that), Biden, Libermen,</p>
<p>Music: Rihanna, Chris Brown, Jessica Simpson, Spears, Aguilera, Madonna, Timberlake, etc.</p>
<p>Business Heads: John Chambers, Google people,</p>
<p>I never said no asian scientists or heads of industry. I said no prominent ones.</p>
<p>that's still ridiculous
i dont think prominence should matter
but nonetheless!
ill prove you wrong</p>
<p>The founder of Yahoo is Jerry Yang
Bobby Jindal, the governor of Louisiana, is rising to the top of the Republican party
Steve Chen and Jawed Karim created YouTube
Amar Bose founded the Bose Corporation
Michelle Kwan is an international celebrity for her figure skating prowess
Bruce Lee is an internationally renown movie star
Margaret Cho is a very famous comedian, with her own television show
M. Night Shyamalan and Ang Lee are two of the most famous directors in America, one being nominated for, and the other winning an Academy award for best director
Brenda Song, Lucy Liu, and Tila Tequila are television and movie stars!</p>
<p>do you want more? okay!</p>
<p>how about science contribution?
(i copied this from wikipedia)
Asian Americans have made many notable contributions to science and technology. Chien-Shiung Wu was known to many scientists as the "First Lady of Physics". Tsung-Dao Lee and Chen Ning Yang received the 1957 Nobel Prize in Physics for their work in particle physics. Har Gobind Khorana shared the 1968 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his work in genetics and protein synthesis. Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar shared the 1983 Nobel Prize in Physics and had the Chandra X-ray Observatory named after him. In 1984, Dr. David D. Ho first reported the "healthy carrier state" of HIV infection, which identified HIV-positive individuals who showed no physical signs of AIDS. Steven Chu shared the 1997 Nobel Prize in Physics for his research in cooling and trapping atoms using laser light. Daniel Tsui shared the 1998 Nobel Prize in Physics in 1998 for helping discover the fractional Quantum Hall effect. Tsien Hsue-shen co-founded the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.</p>
<p>And now do you want to count how many white people with mediocre talents enter those fields?
My whole point is that Asians need to better than their white counterparts in order to gain the same positions in society as is evident in what you just said.</p>
<p>btw you forgot Jackie Chan. (who is better than he is at martial arts?)
And soem of the asians you listed are not even full asian.</p>
<p>Does that asian guy that co-created YouTube count?
Also, just my opinion, I don't really see what being prominent has to do with being marginalized. The general population isn't all that smart. Well... rather than smart, I think they just don't care enough about topics that really matter (or have a deep enough appreciation with the case of music) to know about educated Asians that make a difference.
Then again, I'm really dumb when it comes to debates like these. If I offended anyone, pay no mind.</p>
<p>i's sorry, i definitely feel that racism exists against asians in America today, but i definitely do not feel that it is as drastic as you make it out to be
and i feel that asians DOMINATE scientific research today
i think that there exists i much stronger sense of prejudice against african americans, gays, and women, who often share a back set in today's society</p>
<p>hmm. I agree that it as not as bad as it is for gays, but I am not sure about blacks and women. (I look at politics, you not supposed to have to be asian to vote for an asian)</p>
<p>Wow. This thread makes me laugh.</p>
<p>Just so you guys know, the U.S. population is composed of less than 5% Asians compared to nearly 80% white.</p>
<p>Really? My school sometimes feels like it has over 30% Asians. But, I guess thats because I notice Asian people more than I notice white people. The actual amount is probably closer to 10% in my school.</p>
<p>^^^Chanfest22</p>
<p>That is not the point. Success and jobs should be merit-based not population-based.</p>
<p>by the way African Americans only make up about 14% of the nation
African</a> Americans by the Numbers — Infoplease.com</p>
<p>yet we have a black president and MANY african american congressmen.</p>
<p>um
do we really have that many black congressmen?
is congress really 14% black?
and what about women?
women make up 50% of the population
is congress 50% female?</p>
<p>and ALSO
"and yet we have a black president"
100% of presidents before this have been white men!
so this first time we have a black president in HISTORY, you're saying that it is not indicative of the racial composition of this country?</p>
<p>actually, i just looked it up
0% of the senate is black, now that barack obama has been elected president
and 9.5% of the house is black, with 42 members</p>
<p>o cool. how many asians?</p>
<p>I don't get your second to last post about indicative of population. Was that addressed to me or Chanfest? O.o</p>
<p>it was addressed to you
when you said</p>
<p>by the way African Americans only make up about 14% of the nation</p>
<p>yet we have a black president and MANY african american congressmen.</p>
<p>how many years have blacks been in America? it's like 150 something
how many years have asians been there? it's like a little more than 50 years
that's a huge difference!
and whites have fight for blacks' rights, did they ever do that for asians?
and i think everybody admitt that asians is not indeed smart but hard-working, regardless you like this kind of hard work or not</p>
<p>btw, you don't know there'are any musicians, scientists, politics doesn't mean that they DON'T EXIST! if they are that rare, how come China and India is growing so fast?
if you don't see something, don't simplely take it as it doesn't exist</p>
<p>HELLO? I'm talking about the f*** US not China or India.</p>
<p>BTW, asian americans have been in the US almost as long as African Americans, just not in great numbers.</p>