<p>^ignore him…he doesn’t seem to be the smartest when it comes to girls.</p>
<p>Ask her to grab a bite/coffee. Nothing intense, just lunch. And hurry, cus it sounds like the other guy is moving in.</p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>
<p>The details you obsess with the most will always be the one you overcompensate on and mess up in a very bad way.</p>
<p>Do what feels right and don’t try too hard. If you are confident, any mistake you make will likely be written off. Meanwhile, if she sees right through you because of something artificial / unnatural, that’ll put you in a very negative light.</p>
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<p>That’s a load of malarkey and you know it. She’s gotta know you’re into her as something other than a friend or else you’re instantly exiled to that dreaded hell zone.</p>
<p>Amateur question here: If you get friend zoned, how do you know for sure that you’re in it, how do you get out of it, and is it hard to get out of it or turn it into something more?</p>
<p>I’m worried that I unintentionally landed inside that friend-zone.</p>
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<p>this. </p>
<p>make smalltalk and flirt at first, don’t just ask her out. as a girl, i would be really taken aback if some random guy just asked me to lunch or something. get her number and text her and maybe suggest that you two hang out after a couple of days of texting. plus, when you guys actually do hang out it will make it less awkward since you actually know a little bit about each other.</p>
<p>and, yeah, add her on facebook! it might be easier to start a conversation and get number that way if it’s hard to talk to her in class.</p>
<p>Soil: If you have absolutely no game and have no clue how to signal to a girl that you’re into her without wearing a suit and taking her to a steak dinner then sure, go that route. It won’t work, but hey, at least you won’t end up in the “dreaded hell zone” because you’ll creep her out to the point that you don’t have to worry about it!</p>
<p>Also, if you think that being friends with a girl is a “dreaded hell zone” then you might want to do a bit of work on yourself before you worry about your relationship with other people.</p>
<p>edit: And to provide an example, I had three girlfriends in college that I would consider semi-serious (dated at least six months.) One I was friends with for a year and a half before we started dating, one I was friends with for a few months before we started dating, and one that was the result of a party hookup. And there were many girls that I was initially interested in but after hanging out a couple times I realized that I did not want to date them.</p>
<p>It’s a self-confidence thing. There is ALWAYS going to be another girl, so you don’t have to completely throw yourself at every one that pays attention to you.</p>
<p>Heres my two cents. (Before I Begin, there is a pscyhological phenomen that the more you see someone, the more you like them and the foot in the door phenomen. If she lets you in the 1st time. Then you have a very good chance)</p>
<p>Before Starting
Make sure your are at your BEST, especially when shes around. Girls notice this!!
Iron your shirts
Brush your teeth
Keep your collars straight
Work out
Hair Combed/Brushed
Overall be well groomed</p>
<p>Second, this process will take a while! At least 3 weeks, if it takes more than 2months then its not gonna work</p>
<p>MOST IMPORTANT : ACT CALM AND CONFIDENT! A possibly awkward moment can be diffused by an “oh ok, your busy, catch ya later.” Never EVER EVER TALK TO HER NERVOUS! Your nerves become her nerves</p>
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<li>Check her relationship status on facebook, if married than you are gonna have to wait a while!!</li>
<li>The only time you mention seeing and talking with her is in class or groups so. I would take as long as you can leaving class, so you can talk to her. Ask she needs with carrying books if looks like shes having a hard time leaving or holding things
Flirt a little bit. Use your wit to flirt, then as you deliver the final lines, look into her eye for a good second.</li>
<li><p>Assess the impression you got.</p></li>
<li><p>Repeat step 1 once or twice with a little different flirty joke, spin, look.</p></li>
<li><p>See what time she comes into class usually and “haphazardly” meet her at least 30 seconds before she walks in.</p></li>
<li><p>Next class, ask her if she wants to meet up. if she pauses, seems like shes about to reject you, add the " to review notes" (DONT SAY STUDY) part before its way too awkward</p></li>
<li><p>Later, Start very light (VERY LIGHT) FLIRTING with her while you both are in your group.</p></li>
<li><p>See her reaction
7.5, do stuff together with your group, as an excuse to hang out with her. Photos are recommended</p></li>
<li><p>Make up some bogus excuse to move next to her, if you say “to see better” she should get the message.
8.5 Add her on facebook, see if she has any photos of you and the comments on them</p></li>
<li><p>IF their is a project be the FIRST to ask her to partner up</p></li>
<li><p>After the project is over, or nearly over, ask her out!</p></li>
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<p>okay so should i go straight to the Girlfriend zone so i dont get stuck in the friend zone? i met 2 other girls and was too calm/nice i guess and landed in the friend zone and cant get out. how should i act? ( be myself of course) but i’ve been too laid back which hasnt got me anywhere. should i be forward? what should i say? thanks!
also, dumb question, but should is it acceptable to ask her out over a text or facebook?</p>
<p>Holy balls its not that hard to grab lunch or something. Look, if you haven’t done anything to get her to notice you then she probably hasn’t. Do you ever see her at a party or something? It’s way less awkward to talk to people more than casually in social situations. I personally don’t go to class everyday on the prowl to ask some girl out, and I doubt many girls are expecting it. If you creep her out there’s no coming back from that. Also all this step by step stuff is so laughably horrible. Please don’t waste your time, they are just a recipe for awkward.</p>
<p>“That’s a load of malarkey and you know it. She’s gotta know you’re into her as something other than a friend or else you’re instantly exiled to that dreaded hell zone.”</p>
<p>Wrong. Girls do NOT friendzone guys because they didn’t immediately ask us out on a date. We friendzone guys because they lack guts and confidence (however, those sort of guys would be the kind to take forever to pick up their courage and ask us out, so I get the correlation). There’s no pressure to ask her out from the get-go, especially in a case like this where they hardly know each other. I know I’d actually PREFER a casual hangout, as would other girls. But if you do hang out casually, make a move/ask her out as soon as you see it going somewhere.</p>