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<p>Again, “great college town” is subjective. Personally, I think Ann Arbor looks like a downright depressing place to go to college. </p>

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<p>The tone of your comment suggests that you’re trying to make the OP feel guilty for choosing ASU. </p>

<p>I don’t think anyone here disagrees with the fact that Michigan beats ASU on prestige, fame and glory. However, bashing ASU for poor academics is just plain ignorant… They are a huge research university, with ties to top companies and government organizations (JPL, Los Alamos, Fermi Labs, CERN, NSF, just to name a few…). You don’t acquire these kinds of ties through weak academics, rigor, and faculty…</p>

<p>So can we please stop with the elitist comments and focus on what’s best for the OP.</p>

<p>Totally agree that it is important to keep in mind that this is a one year study abroad program for the OP. The importance of this school is pretty irrelevant in comparison to the reputation of the school the OP will actually graduate from. Getting a good experience in the US is the most important thing. I don’t know any US student who worries about the academic reputation of the school for his/her abroad program – a student will look for the abroad experience that is the best fit in terms of country, courses etc. Let the OP go to ASU in peace if that is the choice.</p>

<p>ASU tied Princeton for number of Fulbright Scholars. ASU has a higher success rate for applications than Michigan. Don’t let the less-inclined students jade your vision of the school as a whole. </p>

<p><a href=“https://asunews.asu.edu/20131030-asu-fulbrights[/url]”>ASU now among top 3 research universities for Fulbright awards | ASU News;

<p>“Again, “great college town” is subjective. Personally, I think Ann Arbor looks like a downright depressing place to go to college.”</p>

<p>Once again you live in THE MOJAVE DESERT.</p>

<p><a href=“http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/meinzahn/meinzahn1104/meinzahn110411203/9396378-driving-on-the-interstate-187-in-death-valley-direction-badwater-in-the-heat-of-the-mojave-desert.jpg[/url]”>http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/meinzahn/meinzahn1104/meinzahn110411203/9396378-driving-on-the-interstate-187-in-death-valley-direction-badwater-in-the-heat-of-the-mojave-desert.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“ASU tied Princeton for number of Fulbright Scholars. ASU has a higher success rate for applications than Michigan. Don’t let the less-inclined students jade your vision of the school as a whole.”</p>

<p>Actually for 2013 Harvard and Michigan came in first and second. ASU tied Princeton for third.</p>

<p><a href=“https://asunews.asu.edu/20131030-asu-fulbrights[/url]”>ASU now among top 3 research universities for Fulbright awards | ASU News;

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<p>Where did I say they came in first? I said they tied Princeton and beat UM in % accepted.</p>

<p>Your future school mates at ASU:</p>

<p>[Arizona</a> State University fraternity holds racist MLK Day party  - NY Daily News](<a href=“National News - New York Daily News”>Arizona State University fraternity holds racist MLK Day party )</p>

<p>Hope I get in some gen eds with people who only want to party. My GPA will thank me. :)</p>

<p>What the hell is wrong with some of you? THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES CC ANYMORE. Instead of helping people with college decisions, applications, etc., most of you bash a school to no ends that isn’t either a. an ivy, b., a public ivy, or c., doesn’t have an acceptance rate under 50%. How snobby is that of you? Did you hear about the girl who committed suicide because of the stress level she was experiencing? She was so caught up on the PRESTIGE of UPenn and concerned about what OTHERS might think of her that she didn’t bother transferring and saving herself. It’s people here, on CC, that make this process really unnecessarily hard for some people if they don’t want to go to one of the three I mentioned above. You all boast that you’re adults with experience and kids in school and students should listen to you-- well ACT LIKE IT. If the OP wants to go to ASU, then drop it, wish him good luck, and move on. Don’t spend another two pages telling him that his choice is wrong, that all the students at ASU are terribly unintelligent (which is SO untrue), and that ASU is a bad school to go to. Just let him decide what he wants to decide without hassling. Jesus. Grow up. </p>

<p>The OP is undecided Isky17. That’s why this thread was created. </p>

<p>The OP has shown interest towards ASU and you specifically have shot him down. </p>

<p>So here’s the list I made to help me :</p>

<p>UM</p>

<p>+people
+better for studies
+Midwest
+Ann arbor</p>

<p>-weather
-competitive athmosphere</p>

<p>ASU</p>

<p>+weather
+relaxed athmosphere
+Southeast
+Tempe</p>

<p>-more conservative </p>

<p>Looking at it, ASU seems a better choice… I hope it won’t be too conservative. Thank you for your precious advices !</p>

<p>You will be fine at ASU. You should easily be able to find college students at a state university who are not conservative.</p>

<p>Thank you very much !</p>

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<p>You will be fine. The vast majority of conservative college students in the US are socially liberal, fiscally conservative anyway.</p>

<p>I think you will like ASU a lot.</p>

<p>But shall I be able to find people liberal socially and fiscally ?</p>

<p>ASU Young Democrats club has 362 members on Facebook. Democrats are usually fiscally & socially liberal.</p>

<p><a href=“Вход на Facebook | Facebook”>Вход на Facebook | Facebook;

<p>Can’t link Facebook, you can use this to find it.</p>

<p><a href=“http://asu.orgsync.com/search”>http://asu.orgsync.com/search&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Thank you !</p>

<p>Add to your list:</p>

<p>U of M

  • rabidly loyal alums, frothing at the mouth at the mere idea that ASU and U of M might be mentioned in the same sentence, thereby sullying the name of their beloved alma mater.</p>

<p>There is smart, and then there is smart and gracious. </p>

<p>Bet this wasn’t quite what you expected, Birdwatch. There are plenty of liberal activities at the university, as one would expect at universities generally.
Here are a just couple of things going on at ASU and there is so much more:
<a href=“Staging the disappeared: theater student explores international politics | ASU News”>Staging the disappeared: theater student explores international politics | ASU News;
<a href=“Changes in Indian law, reservations to be examined at Canby lecture | ASU News”>Changes in Indian law, reservations to be examined at Canby lecture | ASU News;
<a href=“ASU partners with Ameresco, Rocky Mountain Institute to achieve climate neutrality | ASU News”>ASU partners with Ameresco, Rocky Mountain Institute to achieve climate neutrality | ASU News;
<a href=“https://origins.asu.edu/events/great-debate-transcending-our-origins-violence-humanity-and-future”>https://origins.asu.edu/events/great-debate-transcending-our-origins-violence-humanity-and-future&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>AZ has lots of liberals. It goes about 55R/45D in elections generally. Conservatives dominate elections, but 45% are Democrat, a not insignificant proportion of population. You will meet lots of people with a broad range of viewpoints in both places. Michigan swings the other way, 45R/55D.
<a href=“Arizona Election Results 2012 - Map, County Results, Live Updates - POLITICO.com”>http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/arizona/&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“Michigan Election Results 2012 - Map, County Results, Live Updates - POLITICO.com”>http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/michigan/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;