Audition/class size numbers

<p>NMR....you are so funny. :D
KatMT....this week is orientation ("Welcome Week") for all NYU freshmen/transfer students including those entering Tisch. Their classes begin next Tuesday.</p>

<p>THANKS! Just curious -- JMU started this past Monday (we start earlier than a lot of northern schools... being from the north this has taken some getting used to)!</p>

<p>KatMT, yes, my D made the big move to NYC and NYU this past weekend and seems to be having the time of her life so far, even though classes haven't even started! (As fellow NYU mom soozievt points out, classes start next week.) She called last night as she was walking back to her dorm from her unsuccessful attempt to attend drag queen bingo (so popular that she and her friends didn't get there in time to get a seat!) and sounded great. She's traipsing all around the city and meeting people and can't wait for classes to start, though she isn't much looking forward to the music theory placement. :)</p>

<p>Thanks NMR for the clarification.</p>

<p>Question... Does anyone know the guy to girl ratios at any of these schools or just the ratio "in general" when I read over 2,000 people audition at tisch... I just can't imagine more than half being boys... or anywhere else... is there a difference or is it more close to even?</p>

<p>the usually quoted ratio is 2:1 girls although Michigan said thier ratio was 55:45 girls to boys</p>

<p>NYQ12, I can tell you at CMU that usually there are quite a few more guys taken than girls. I think most of the other programs do seem pretty even but for some reason, CMU is definitely a school that takes more guys.</p>

<p>what about the ratio of girls to boys at cmu that audition? I know they have about 1,000 audition every year.</p>

<p>I think what some are trying to say is that at most BFA in MT auditions, the ratio of those who are applying/auditioning are about 2:1 girls to boys. Twice as many girls seem to be at the auditions (including at CMU to answer your question....and I have been to that audition on campus). </p>

<p>In terms of acceptances/enrollment...in a lot of BFA in MT programs, there is a balance of girls and boys of about 50/50. Thus, since more girls apply than boys for MT, it is much more difficult odds for a girl to get in and the odds are higher for a boy. At some schools, there are more girls than boys in the program but still, the odds for girls to get in are much more difficult. But at CMU, in particular, they take more boys than girls for MT and they state that as a fact and the results speak for themselves. Therefore, it is particularly hard for a girl to get in for MT at CMU. They take approx. 4 girls each year.</p>

<p>I agree that there are definitely many more girls than boys who audition for MT programs. But I would be interested on others' opinions of the "quality vs. quantity" issue. At my S's high school, the boys who have auditioned for MT have been those who have been real triple (or at least strong double) threats. They often had outside training, summer programs, other performing experiences, etc. They were very confident in their wish to pursue this path. This seemed to be a trend with the boys we talked to at various auditions (Several of whom S had met at other summer programs or through professional theater he had done.) However, in addition to the girls who fit this description, there were also many additional girls who auditioned who had one talent - maybe a strong dance background or who had good voices. They had leads or secondary roles in high school but little outisde experience. But they loved MT and thought this would be their career path. Few of these in the latter group ever made it into audition schools. I'm wondering if anyone else has observed this. I guess I wouldn't want girls to be too discouraged or boys to be too complacent! It's tough all around to get into these programs!</p>

<p>I agree with baymom. I talked to one mom at an audition last year whose daughter was an excellent dancer, and she was telling me that they were surprised that she didn't get into Belmont. "Apparently they take that music stuff seriously," she said.</p>

<p>For my own S, his options inside of school were limited so we did seek outside training in acting and voice. He tried to squeeze in a dance class occasionally, and it definitely hurt him at some auditions that he was not a strong dancer. You HAVE to be strong in at least two of the areas I would say. Boy or girl, the more prepared you are in all 3 areas, the better.</p>

<p>back to quality vs quantity.... For those who have experience unifieds or just auditions in general for these schools... What have the students been like? the majority? the few? is everyone the cream of the crop? or far from it? I don't know, but anything helps! It just blows my mind that 1,000+ kids would all be brilliantly amazing.</p>

<p>I think you will find that it greatly varies; some schools definitely attract more kids than others. At some schools my D auditioned at, the talent and competition seemed amazing (CMU, NYU), and at others (Point Park, Marymount Manhattan) the talent was more of a mixed bag, some very talented kids, and some who seemed to be not quite as prepared. </p>

<p>Remember that some of these impressions are merely based upon "what someone sounded like through a door" as you are not together in one room at all auditions (unlike i.e. Marymount Manhattan).</p>

<p>Right, it will just be very interesting to see what it is like... hm...</p>

<p>Most people are surprised at just how well prepared a great number of the kids are. I recall looking around at my D's PSU audition at Unifieds and thinking "WOW! So many lovely, well dressed and obviously well prepared girls, all vying for the same spot." Plus, you could (as someone said above) hear singing through the door. For those of you who will be auditioning, I recommend highly not thinking about this. Focus on YOURSELF and keep your eyes on the prize, so to speak. Too much looking around and trying to size up the competition is very unsettling to some kids. Others have learned to just keep focused internally.</p>

<p>I have always thought that this was an interesting aspect of all of this. We have CC to guide us through this process and wonderful information and tips of those who have been through this before. If I hadn't found CC we would have not had a clue. I am sure the majority of auditioners have not found CC. I wonder where they get their info about college audtions. Most HS guidance counselors don't know very much about this process. Do they get it from other students, their voice/acting/dance instructors?</p>

<p>I just thank our lucky stars; my d showed up at NYU auditions with sweatpants, hair pulled back, thinking she had to dance (she didn't)...no change of clothes. Wow, were we naive!!!</p>

<p>We were lucky that my son's voice teacher is a professor at a college that regularly sends students to the state theatre conference, where they can audition for professional work. And high school students can audition for colleges there, too, but just state schools. So she had some knowledge of the process, particularly for preparing for vocal auditions.</p>

<p>There are other places on the net where kids can talk to each other about the process. For my son, Facebook became a big place for last year's group of auditioning students to discuss the process.</p>

<p>As far as girls versus guys go, I was told by a friend who is a senior MT at CMU that they take more guys because their program is so focused on acting (and particularly classical acting) and there are more roles for men in plays (especially in the classics) than for women.</p>

<p>There are typically more roles for men in musicals than women, as well. :)</p>