<p>I am currently a freshman at Union College a small liberal arts school in Schenectady, NY.
I have a 4.0
1970/2400 SATs
AP: 5/5/4
Member of women’s crew team
Writer for school newspaper
Heavily in involved in a group-Campus Action
High school: salutatorian, president of national honor society and student council, varsity hockey and lacrosse player (captain of both senior year), assistant editor of school newspaper, numerous volunteer positions, and various other clubs.
Not entirely sure about major (perhaps English) and definitely a minor in French
I am a Vermont resident
I was wait listed last year
PLEASE GIVE ME SOME IDEA OF WHAT MY CHANCES ARE!</p>
<p>It is notoriously easy to earn admission at BC as a transfer student. I’d say your chances are very high.</p>
<p>“It is notoriously easy to earn admission at BC as a transfer student. I’d say your chances are very high”</p>
<p>Umm yeah, ok 21% acceptance rate for transfers makes BC harder to transfer into than to be accepted out of high school —<a href=“http://www.bc.edu/admission/undergrad/transfer/ataglance.html”>http://www.bc.edu/admission/undergrad/transfer/ataglance.html</a></p>
<p>I blame the high freshmen retention rate.</p>
<p>I’d say the OP as a good shot at BC. Is that 4.0 earned at Union, or was it earned in high school?</p>
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<p>“Umm… yeah,” you’re confused if you believe the marketing claptrap posted on their website. On average, the percentage of transfer applicants accepted by BC is higher than the percentage of freshman applicants. Occasionally the reverse is true.</p>
<p>You have any proof, PawAtBC? Of course, BC can publish whatever they want, but the transfer acceptance rate was 21% this year, and the freshman acceptance rate was 30%. There is quite a bit of disparity between these two statistics.</p>
<p>Sure, “YY66YY,” just look further down on the page at the link posted above. The transfer acceptance rate for the Spring 2009 term was 41%, almost twice as much as that for the Fall term.</p>
<p>Paul, was there alot of dropout rates that caused BC to enroll so many students for the Spring? I barely heard a 41% acceptance rate from them before.</p>
<p>I have a poor HS GPA and my SAT score could be around 1700 something when I retake this week. Do you think taking Summer Classes after freshmen year and apply for CAS for January of 2011 can stand me a good chance as a BC candidate?</p>
<p>This is what BC admissions has to say about that particular Spring Transfer:</p>
<p>“**Then entereing class for January 2009 was an unusually large enrolling class for Boston College and should be considered an anomaly. The statistics for the Class of the Fall of 2009 are a more accurate reflection of the selectivity in the transfer admission process at Boston College.”</p>
<p>[At</a> A Glance - 2005 / 2004 - Boston College](<a href=“http://www.bc.edu/admission/undergrad/transfer/ataglance.html]At”>http://www.bc.edu/admission/undergrad/transfer/ataglance.html)</p>
<p>Transfer Class of Fall 2009
Admission Statistics</p>
<pre><code>* Total applications 1542
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Total acceptances 329 (acceptance rate “21%”)
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Total enrolled 146 (yield “44%”)
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Average college G.P.A. for accepted students: 3.58
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Average SAT for accepted students: 1937 (2400 point scale)
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Average ACT for accepted students: 28
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<p>And from those data, which are the most recent, union09 has a very good shot, sort of a match.</p>
<p>2005, 2004, 2009, 2010? What’s correct? Nobody knows because they publish manipulated data to make the school seem more selective than it is. Union09, just go for it; you have a very good chance at getting in.</p>
<p>The spring 09 semester was an abnormality compared to other semesters. Also, the % of acceptances for transfers depend on what college your applying to. Transferring into CSOM is extremely selective having only 5-10 spots available each semester. I’ve talked with students who have successfully transferred into BC before the spring 09 semester and all have stated the average acceptance rate was around 20 - 25%.</p>
<p>Care to elaborate Paul? Maybe you are privy to information we don’t have. From what I have seen, BC presents pretty straight forward data sets about their admission numbers. They do not provide statistical analysis where interpretations can create a bias view. Simple look at the information I provide below to see the transfer rates for other years. Undoubtedly 2009 was a less selective years than previous ones, but if they were bias or manipulating their data, they wouldn’t make the acceptance number 21%, but something lower to fit their vast conspiracy of deception. </p>
<p>You can examine data going back to the 1970s. I don’t know a single school that publishes such extensive information on its admission numbers.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bc.edu/publications/factbook/00-09/08_09.html[/url]”>http://www.bc.edu/publications/factbook/00-09/08_09.html</a></p>
<p>Transfer Applications
1999 (year) 1,525 (applications) 447 (admitted) 29% (acceptances as % of applications) 248 (enrollment)55% (enrollment as a % of acceptances) 16% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2000 1,363 (applications) 256 (admitted) 19%(acceptances as % of applications) 142 (enrollment) 56% (enrollment as a % of acceptances)10% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2001 (year)1,015 (applications) 258 (admitted) 25% (acceptances as % of applications) 132 (enrollment) 51% (enrollment as a % of acceptances)13% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2002 (year)1,079 (applications) 130 (admitted) 12% (acceptances as % of applications) 71 (enrollment) 55% (enrollment as a % of acceptances) 7% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2003 (year)1,123 (applications) 260 (admitted) 23% (acceptances as % of applications) 124 (enrollment) 48% (enrollment as a % of acceptances)11% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2004 (year) 942 (applications) 240 (admitted) 25% (acceptances as % of applications) 122 (enrollment) 51% (enrollment as a % of acceptances) 13% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2005 (year) 1,009 (applications) 150 (admitted) 15% (acceptances as % of applications) 80 (enrollment) 53% (enrollment as a % of acceptances) 8% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2006 (year) 1,176 (applications) 123 (admitted) 11% (acceptances as % of applications) 63 (enrollment) 51% (enrollment as a % of acceptances) 5% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2007 (year) 1,632 (applications) 268 (admitted) 16% (acceptances as % of applications) 149 (enrollment) 56% (enrollment as a % of acceptances) 9% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p>2008 (year) 1,803 (applications) 166 (admitted) 9% (acceptances as % of applications) 78 (enrollment) 47% (enrollment as a % of acceptances) 4% (enrollment as a % of applications)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bc.edu/publications/factbook/meta-elements/pdf/08-09/08-09_fact_book.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bc.edu/publications/factbook/meta-elements/pdf/08-09/08-09_fact_book.pdf</a></p>
<p>When you look at the data, there is no “correct” year. Applicant pool changes from year to year. So you’re right in that regard, it’s hard to predict what 2010 or 2011 will be like based on previous years. No one has a crystal ball. However, using the information, we can ballpark chances. The most telling data on admission are not acceptance and rejection, but SAT score and GPA. They stay relatively constant, slightly creeping upward, from year to year. BC also provides their GPA and SAT for all to see as well.</p>
<p>Finally, most of these information are not “marketing claptrap” as you put it, but part of BC annual review, one of the things universities and colleges do in order to get accreditation. Most schools choose not to provide these information to the public. The links to those info that I posted above are not under the admissions office, so the average high school students wouldn’t have a clue where to look for them.</p>
<p>Union09, I am curious since I graduated from Union (a long time ago) and then graduated from BC Law 9a long time ago). Granted, Schenectedy has its limitations, especially as compared to Boston, I found Union intimate, the professors very accessible, and it prepared me well for law school. I have somewhat less of a sense of the BC undergraduate experience although my son has applied.</p>
<p>Reddune, many universities publish comparable amounts of information. Read the fine print in the Boston College Fact Book and you will see that they are selectively presenting the collected data. They are not obligated to share all of their data, and they do not have to disclose all of the data required by the accreditation boards.</p>
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<p>Right, but how do you suppose they are skewing their statistics?</p>
<p>Care to give an example Paul. You are saying they are skewing their statistics, but in what way and how? Repeatedly saying the same thing over and over again doesn’t make it true.</p>
<p>I have to agree with Reddune. I found BC refreshingly forthright in revealing statistics, most especially as compared with UChicago, URochester and Hopkins. They were also clear on their website and at the info session as to which students should attempt to apply EA. The “Fact Book” is notable for its detail about the university in every regard. Check out URochester’s website, for instance. Last time I checked, they were still posting “admitted” students SAT scores in their “prospective student” section! Try to find stats for Chicago, Rochester or Hopkins comparable to the BC factbook. You won’t find them.</p>
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<p>They are withholding information. How else would you like me to say it? The Fact Book only contains information about some transfer students and only for one semester out of the year. The average acceptance rate for transfer students is significantly higher if you include all transfer students in the calculation. </p>
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<p>And repeatedly denying something doesn’t make it false.</p>
<p>Paul, I hope you realize most spring transfers only add about “25-35 students” (pg. 34, footnote #1, fact book 2008-2009), a insignificant pool compared to the fall transfers. But for argument’s sake, I’ll indulge you and add them in.</p>
<p>First, let’s look at the year 2009.
Transfer Class of Fall 2009
Admission Statistics
- Total applications 1542
- Total acceptances 329 (acceptance rate “21%”)
- Total enrolled 146 (yield “44%”) </p>
<p>Spring of 2009:
*Total applications 277
*Total acceptances 114 (acceptance rate “41%”)
*Total enrolled 78 (yield “68%”) </p>
<p>Total for 2009:
*Total applications: 1819
*Total acceptances: 443 (acceptance rate “24.35%”)
*Total enrolled: 224 (yield "50.56%)</p>
<p>Forgive me if I’m not surprised that even with the combined spring 2009 semester, which enrolled 3-4 TIMES more students than the average spring semester, the admission rate for the year is still only 24.35%, far short of the 30% average for the regular pool. For all intended purpose, the spring semesters enroll too few students to significantly affect the overall average of the entire year.</p>