<p>I am deeply saddened by the tragic assassination of Benazir Bhutto. It has been a horrible day today for the world, especially for the Pakistani community in various parts of the world. She stood for morals, values, and she was the first and brave Muslim woman to lead a Muslim country. because of those damn extremists, she was murdered. I am so sad because the world has experienced a deep loss - for a brave and strong woman who wanted to bring the unstable country into harmony with democracy. I feel horrible, as I am sure many Pakistanis do in the US, UK, Pakistan [obvious...], South Africa, France, Australia, and other various parts of the world. Her noble sacrifice - the only sacrifice ever truly made for the nation - cannot be more robust. I wish she is in a better place now and I can only hope for the best.</p>
<p>yes, you are so right, I just heard her speaking on NPR the other day, it is was so surreal to hear that she was assasinated</p>
<p>I disagree .</p>
<p>^What do you disagree with?</p>
<p>What she stood for.</p>
<p>How can you disagree? But, w/e, I don't really care. The only statistic that I can say is the millions of people that were crying in the news all over the US. She had the largest and most popular political party in all of Pakistan and all sources indicated that she was going to be re-elected before she was tragically murdered in poltroonery. She was awesome, ambitious, a true feminist, and she believed in true Islam - equal rights for all gender, sexes, religions, and she was a true believer in democracy. All of the charges of corruption have been dismissed and she remain the only person ever to be so loved and cherished by all Pakistani people. Nawaz Sharif was crying, all world leaders offered condolences and expressed outrage, so frankly I really don't care what you think. Besides, she was the strongest Muslim woman ever and nobody will ever be able to replace her. If nobody liked her, why did hundreds of thousands attend her funeral and carry her coffin? Yesterday had been known as the darkest day ever and I think that Pakistan is heading down a dark road. She embodied democracy, woman's rights, freedom, alleviation of poverty, success, and happiness for Pakistan. I have never seen anybody's death so popular - and that shows that she was such a popular and beloved political figure.</p>
<p>First off, the news is skewed to portray her in a good light, when every Pakistani i know dislikes her with a passion, both Muslims and non-Muslims.</p>
<p>Second, she was not going to be reelected. Anyone who was as corrupt as she was would not be reelected. I wonder why ALL charges of corruption were dismissed....especially when there were hundreds of documents from Pakistan as well as European countries that definitely proved it.</p>
<p>Third, she did not believe in true Islam. and she was definitely not the strongest Muslim woman, read your history.</p>
<p>Fourth I never said no-one like her, but a few hundred thousand people out of more than 150 million people is not a lot. Bush's approval rating is pretty low but im sure millions of people would be at his funeral. </p>
<p>Fifth, Yesterday was not the darkest day ever. </p>
<p>Sixth, all you've been looking at are American and European views of her. Go to a Pakistani website to get your news about Pakistan.</p>
<p>Seventh, I'm respectively disagreeing with you and if this turns into a debate, please let it be civilized, or I won't respond.</p>
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<p>hmm.........reallly?! how many Pakistanis do u know Mr.Sheed? I disagree w/ you.
Also that you said she was corrupted....emm....I think u rather meant her husband was condemned to be corrupted...I don't recall her being "directly" involved....yea..she couldn't do much..but at least she talked for the people's "real" need of "real" people....that's as much as I know...</p>
<p>I have so many things to say. First of all, you incorrectly stated that every Pakistani that you know disliked her with a passion - both Muslims and non-Muslims. Really? Why is it that, many of my friends, whom are Pakistani, like her and are really fond of her? Why is it that, from SEVERAL sources that I've read, she was the named the most popular and the leader of the largest political party I have ever known? You can check any source you want to. Also, you claimed that my opinions were biased. I always listen to different viewpoints from a variety of sources. Last time I checked, PTV and GEO NEWS were not European or American, but Pakistani. GEO, PTV, Bush himself, and many other sources, such as Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton stated that she would've been re-elected. The charges of corruption were filed only and only for political purposes - because the government wanted to get rid of her because she was a woman. She died as a martyr for this nation and as far as I am concerned, I know more than you. I have read several of her biographies that have been written by European, American, and some Pakistani authors as well. The news is not skewed to portray her in a good light because GEO and PTV are all expressing their grief and sorrow for her. They are Pakistani news stations and one must be delusional to think that they are biased as well. I have read Pakistani History and I have never seen a braver woman - to lead and help a Muslim nation to success. All of those so called documents were merely documents being used to oust her from office. She did believe in true Islam. What is your version of Islam? That women are subordinate to men? If that is so, you should be truly ashamed of yourself and you are not a Muslim at all. True Islam gives rights and declares that all men and women are equal. Period. And moreover, you need to brush up on your knowledge of history. I don't listen to narrow-minded people with little intellect. She was a strong, brave woman and the first female prime minister to lead a modern, Muslim country - which is a fact. Next time you say something, please read and respond appropriately. Benazir Bhutto was going to be re-elected, something proven by various sources as she had so many supporters. And yesterday, Nawaz Sharif and Musharaff, both of whom know more and are involved more in politics, said that it was the darkest day in Pakistani History, and I agree. All of my sources have been backed up by many different viewpoints so my points are all valid and unbiased. She was a noble woman and she was born to rule. All of the elders at my mosque agree and we prayed for her. The kings of the Middle East - [which by the way, aren't European or American], all expressed sorrow because Pakistan had lost a true, effective, and noble leader. They expressed sorrow and the King of Saudi Arabia, which is a religious figure of a strict, Islamic country even expressed anguish. And yes, he was supporting, just like a majority of the people in Pakistan and so many around the world, a woman. She was on the hit list of people who had views of misogyny - people, namely in the Tribal Areas and NWFP. And last time I checked, this thread was not meant to be a debate. You came in here very rudely and disrespectfully and tried to force your views - which are irrelevant. This thread is solely for her supporters and believers. If you disagree or believe otherwise, you may happily go somewhere else - to some other thread and perhaps develop your own. Quite sincerely, this thread was not a debate. It was, and still is, a place where her supporters could talk about her tragic death and applaud her noble sacrifice. Nobody is telling you to agree with my view and that of others on this thread. However, as this thread was meant to be, I will finish up by saying that someone should continue her work and she should be honored - with a statue or something else. I have never known such a brave figure and a strong woman. She has been hailed by many people, as a courageous and loving woman. Her sense of equality and justice haven't been lost because she will always be a part of Pakistani History. May God bless her soul and I hope that she can rest in peace.</p>
<p>^baller: you should write a biography on her! ;)</p>
<p>(emm...I don't know what you mean by "true Islam"! there's no term like that..and even if there is..it's def a very vague term.)</p>
<p>I'm not going to argue with you.</p>
<p>@Sheed30
I'm not looking to argue, considering I don't know much about her. But, you brought up some things that interested me. How was she corrupt? What did she do - and what proof is there?
Also, if she didn't believe in "true Islam," what did she believe in?</p>
<p>I'm just trying to get some clarification.</p>
<p>lol@ the "darkest day ever". Wow, if that is the worst thing ever, well...?</p>
<p>"I'm not going to argue with you."</p>
<p>No, I think etiquette dictates that you respond to ballin4ever. When you make vague, unsubstantiated claims, back them up.</p>
<p>^i TOTALLY second what niddumas said.</p>
<p>i have NO idea who this person is. but chances are, she wasn't as good as the media made her to be. all the media want is to raise controversy and earn money. though i have no proof, i'm going to have to agree with sheed there. Besides, I doubt any government offical's actual purpose is to better the country/world. i'm willing to bet 99.999999% of them are more selfish than most people in the world. As to the part about women's rights.....</p>
<p>SERIOUSLY LOOK AROUND AND USE YOUR HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you seriously think that there is still sexism [against women]???? I mean obviously there are some but so less it's unimportant. As i've said before, there are so many women groups of this or that, women rights, benefits, and the sterotype that sense men are sexist against women... that if a man and woman get into some argument or something the woman would obviously be favoured.... this world is no longer sexist against women but against men! (not that i really care, but seriously this women rights stuff is annoying me.)</p>
<p>@ username: Do you really think that women worldwide receive the same treatment as men? Are you aware of womens' rights in the middle east? Yeah sure, here in the US we have instituted programs like AA to aid women and minorities, but that's just one country. I'd suggest you do a little research before you make the assertion that the fight for womens' equality has been won; whether or not you agree with her policies, I really don't care, but she was the first female leader elected to lead a Muslim state, and there's a reason there aren't many elected females. Female submission is part of the religion and the culture.</p>
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<p>NO. I think women are treated better than men.</p>
<p>Sure, there are places where women get abused everyday. but you have to look at where people live. There are alot more people in Countries where women are treated better.</p>
<p>She is portrayed in a great light...but not very accurate, she, her father..her whole family were very corrupt.
Obviously its sad that she got assasinated, but don't put too much faith in the way the media portrays her</p>