<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I'm interested in applied mathematics and would like to know which colleges are considered the best for applied math. (this list does not have to be restricted to the states (Cambridge?))</p>
<p>And please don't say Harvard period. say why, or maybe if you attend(ed) that college. </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Merhoto</p>
<p>courant institute at nyu is very good</p>
<p>Rice .</p>
<p>Are you interested in applied math from a social sciences perspective of a physical/natural sciences perspective?</p>
<p>Do you have an interest in research or do you want to make money?</p>
<p>MIT. Princeton's pretty good as well.</p>
<p>Gourman Report ranking for undergraduate applied math:
Harvard
U Chicago
UC Berkeley
Brown
U Wisconsin Madison
Columbia
Yale
UCLA
Caltech
Purdue
UC San Diego
Northwestern
Carnegie Mellon
Johns Hopkins
UVA
U Colorado Boulder</p>
<p>MIT, UChicago</p>
<p>FWIW, here are the 2008 graduate rankings in applied math:
Math Specialty Rankings: Applied Math
Ranked in 2008 </p>
<p>1 New York University New York, NY
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology Cambridge, MA
3 California Institute of Technology Pasadena, CA
3 University of California--Los Angeles Los Angeles, CA
5 University of Minnesota--Twin Cities Minneapolis, MN
6 Brown University Providence, RI
7 Princeton University Princeton, NJ
7 University of California--Berkeley Berkeley, CA
9 Stanford University Stanford, CA
9 University of Texas--Austin Austin, TX
11 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor Ann Arbor, MI
12 Carnegie Mellon University Pittsburgh, PA
12 University of Maryland--College Park College Park, MD
14 Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA
15 Cornell University Ithaca, NY
16 University of Washington Seattle, WA
17 University of Chicago Chicago, IL
18 Rice University Houston, TX
19 Purdue University--West Lafayette West Lafayette, IN
19 University of Arizona Tucson, AZ
21 University of Wisconsin--Madison Madison, WI </p>
<p>Quite a broad list of schools...</p>
<p>Collegehelp,</p>
<p>What is the basis for college rankings in UNDERGRADUATE applied math? </p>
<p>Isn't it ridiculous that NYU, which is No. 1 in the GRADUATE rankings in applied math, does not even appear in the UNDERGRADUATE ranking you quote?</p>
<p>The graduate rankings are based on the reputation of the faculty in the math/science community, the excellence and impact of their research, number of national and international awards, invited lectures, prestigious fellowships, funding, citations, etc.</p>
<p>What criteria can one possibly use to make UNDERGRADUATE rankings of colleges in applied math?</p>
<p>Or physics, chemistry, biology, for that matter.</p>
<p>Gourman ranks NYU 7th for math but not for applied math. I've posted the criteria Gourman used for his rankings. Perhaps you can search for it. The Gourman rankings for graduate education are done separately. The undergrad rankings don't always agree with the graduate rankings and I am not surprised.</p>
<p>Gourman Report ranking for undergrad math:
Princeton
UC Berkeley
Harvard
MIT
U Chicago
Stanford
NYU
Yale
Wisconsin Madison
Columbia
Michigan Ann Arbor
Brown
Cornell
UCLA
Illinois Urbana Champaign
Caltech</p>
<p>Ha, how about MIT?</p>
<p>Collegehelp,</p>
<p>I maintain that there is NO legitimate basis for ranking colleges in UNDERGRADUATE math, or any other specific discipline - physics, chemistry, biology, etc. There are simply NO objective criteria for the comparison of undergraduate programs in a particular field, other than those used to rank the GRADUATE programs.</p>
<p>The Gourman report ranking for UNDERGRADUATE math that you give, with NYU in the 7th place, proves my point. ALL the schools listed there are major research universities, with the BEST GRADUATE math programs. I am not surprised.</p>
<p>Shouldn't you take that up with Gourman? Collegehelp was merely providing some data to be considered.</p>
<p>And I merely want to point out to the CC community the absurdity of undergraduate rankings of colleges in specific disciplines - math or any other, and pretending that it can somehow be done separately from the graduate rankings. It cannot.</p>
<p>atnyu-
It is difficult to assess the quality of instruction whether it is the undergrad or grad program you are talking about. </p>
<p>Some undergrad programs are better than others and it is useful to try to identify them.</p>
<p>Even within the same school, some departments are better than others. Faculty and upperclass students know this. Why wouldn't undergrad programs also differ between schools?</p>
<p>The Gourman criteria DO favor research universities and underestimate LACs. This is well known.</p>
<p>US News ranks engineering and business programs based on reputation among knowledgeable professionals.</p>
<p>I still can't believe that NYU's math is as good as MIT/Caltech/Princeton. The most well known college at NYU is stern, not CAS. Are all of you people who say NYU is good at applied math basing your decision on rankings? or have you actually been there, is there anyone at NYU studying applied math?</p>
<p>merhoto:</p>
<p>Your comment shows just how uninformed you are. For decades, NYU math department, The Courant Institute, Courant</a> Institute of Mathematical Sciences, has been ranked as one of the very best in the country. Fourteen of its faculty are members of the National Academy of Sciences, one of the highest honors a scientist can get. They have also won, many times, all of the highest international math prizes.</p>
<p>As for the CAS, you probably also do not know that the CAS philosophy department is No. 1 in the US, The</a> Philosophical Gourmet Report 2006 - 2008 :: Overall Rankings . The same is true for Art History/Fine Arts. A large number of CAS departments are ranked high nationally.</p>
<p>Stern and Tisch may be the most widely known NYU schools, but CAS has many strengths as well.</p>
<p>what is applied math?</p>
<p>atnyu, i dont mean any offense, i'm just saying my views of cas, even though they are incorrect, in hopes at someone would correct my ignorant views. And thanks for those statistics.<br>
So NYU's math program does match up to MIT/Caltech, etc. Then my next question would be, wouldn't that make it beneficial to apply to NYU's CAS and study math at a top notch school, where it is easier to get into, rather than apply to difficult, almost impossible to enter well known colleges (MIT/CalTech/Princeton). Becuase when you apply to Courant, you actually send your application to CAS, correct?</p>
<p>merhoto:</p>
<p>You mentioned Cambridge and it does indeed have an excellent Math(s) department...including applied. I'd guess that it would rank near or at the top of a combined list with US institutions. I'm sure that you have heard of at least one of the professors of applied math there: Stephen Hawking.</p>