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<p>Not accurate at all. I think we established on this board some time ago that there are some medical schools which do NOT favor their own undergraduates. Maybe BDM or BRM remembers the links?</p>
<p>I don’t deny that having access to a medical school might improve your chances at clinical exposure, but I wouldn’t pick an undergraduate school thinking that it would help me get into their medical school.</p>
<p>I agree that obviously not every undergraduate at a given university is going to get an edge by going there. HOWEVER, I do believe that if you spend four years at a university with constant contact and collaboration with the affiliate medical school you are going to be at an advantage. They will know you and will know your letter writers well. It won’t make up for an uncompetitive application, but it can help. Plus, as you already said, the clinical exposure is worth it in its own right. I probably shouldn’t have been a little more clear about the whole advantage thing, but you get my drift. You don’t become the inside man by just going to a school, you earn that position while you attend there.</p>
<p>I definitely remember telling kids that there were some schools which put their own undergrads at a <em>disadvantage</em>. The logic was pretty straightforward: most kids apply to their own medical school and a disproportionate number of them would want to stay if they could. So medical schools have to discriminate against their own, since otherwise they’d have huge proportions of their class from one institution.</p>
<p>The problem is that I knew several schools that were reputed specifically to do this, and I’ve seen firsthand that those were erroneous. Duke and WUSTL are two prominent examples of schools that famously discriminate against their own – but upon actual examination, it’s VERY clear that they do not do so.</p>
<p>Other schools reputed to be this way are Hopkins, Stanford, and UCLA. I have no firsthand experience with any of those programs, but it’d be interesting to see if anybody did.</p>
<p>Well let’s see what we can do by compiling as many schools as possible. If anyone interviews at Yale, they tend to give a sheet of where their class is from. I believe Harvard and Yale are the two biggest suppliers (20 to 15 or something like that.).</p>
<p>Vandy is easy,</p>
<p><a href=“https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/undergraduate-schools-represented[/url]”>https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/admissions/undergraduate-schools-represented</a></p>
<p>They clearly draw a huge chunk from their undergrad.</p>
<p>Columbia also gives a book with their classes in it. I seem to remember that they didn’t seem to be too heavy on their own undergrad, but I’ll count if I can find it.</p>
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Just some clarification - doing research at a med school does not necessarily give you much of an edge for admission at that school as most PIs are not involved in the admissions process (one might snidely say they have better things to do but I won’t. Oops, just did.) It certainly won’t hurt you, and if you are great, someone may try to make some phone calls, but don’t count on anything. This is particularly true at HMS which has over 7000 full-time faculty. In fact, if you are an UG at Harvard, and do research there, you are doing it in a different city.</p>
<p>The problem is that this doesn’t tell you what you need to know, which is the admissions percentage for similarly-qualified candidates. The final matriculation numbers are biased by a few things, including the fact that undergrads are more likely to want to stick around.</p>
<p>I agree that it isn’t perfect data, but I think at some schools the reverse might be true. A lot of Dukies and Yalies that I met on the interview trail had no interest in staying in their respective areas.</p>
<p>Sure, but all you need is a <em>disproportionate</em> number. Let’s say 5% of Harvard kids will eventually end up at Duke Med. If even 5% of Duke premeds are in relationships, or from the area, or wanting to continue a research project, or already have a lease, etc.</p>
<p>I think the best way to analyze it is actually to look at the eventual student bodies qualifications. If the incoming statistics for own-students are lower than for new-students, then we can infer some favoritism. This is the case at both WUSTL and Duke.</p>
<p>"In fact, if you are an UG at Harvard, and do research there, you are doing it in a different city. "</p>
<p>A lot of UG’s including my D do research not in Cambridge but at the Longwood campus in Boston.</p>
<p>That certainly can be done (altho its a bit of schlep) - when I said “there” I meant “at” Harvard (College).</p>
<p>Well. I must say, many of the colleges listed are very good. If you are a High School 3.75 GPA or higher- MIT is a GREAT PreMED school. I have visited the college and talked with counselors (that is the school i plan on going to for PreMED) and it is incredible. The campus life is great. The competition is great. It is very difficult to complete the work i hear, but it is what you would call a TRUE PreMED school. of course it isn’t a school that specializes in Medical studies, but the number of students that leave that school with their Bachelor of Science degrees and go to Harvard Medical School to complete there doctoral studies is incredible. If you are looking for a real Challenge, GO FOR IT!</p>
<p>Some other schools to maybe look into are of the following:
Dartmouth College in NH
Lamar University in TX
Newbury College in MA
Northeastern University in MA
Prairie View A&M University in TX
Rhode Island College in RI
Rice University in TX
University of British Columbia in BC
Yale in CT
Boston University in MA
Cornell University in NY
Brown University in RI
Harvard College in MA
Amherst College in MA
Rochester Institute of Technologu in NY
Sierra Nevada College in NY
Wake Forest University in?</p>
<p>Of course not all of these are exactly PreMED schools, but they offer rigorous courses that will def give you a challenge. So look into some of those… oh and Washington State St. Louis has one of the BEST PreMED schools in the US. But feel free to look for universities outside of the US. The tuition may be a little more pricy, but there are some that will give you the perfect education for what you went ot go into. And also, a study school to look into is Cambrige University. If you are really interested in Medical Science it wouldn’t be a bad idea to plan on visiting the University. It is a beautiful campus and it is very localized and it has the best university history in the world.
hope i could help</p>
<p>Yes. Yes. You’ve done a lot. The thought that went into that list is…just mind-boggling. I do see a cohesive thread running through the list, though. I wonder if others will see it, too.</p>
<p>Wow, you got me. Maybe an alternate universe, where Newbury College (full time faculty = 35) makes the same list as Harvard, Wash. U became Wazzu, and the Sierra Nevada range has been translocated to NY? </p>
<p>Give us a hint.</p>
<p>I like to know collges that have a good pre-med program in Eastcoast.
Is there any infor regarding the medical school matriculation from each pre-med program?
Some colleges have pre-med program as a major and some colleges do not have pre-med
as a major but help students help prepare for medical school. </p>
<p>I like to know the colleges that have pre-med as a department(major) and their medical school matriculation data.</p>
<p>Thanks very much.</p>
<p>There is no one place to get pre-med acceptance rate info. Some universities publish their own. You would have to check with each school individually.</p>
<p>Majoring in “pre-med” is a terrible idea. It is a totally worthless major if you decide to switch career goals, and it doesn’t better prepare you for medical school than any other science major would.</p>
<p>shades,
While going to Harvard undergrad and getting to know Harvard faculty may not increase your chances of getting into Harvard Med, it will increase your chance of getting into = quality school. The “old boy” network of recommendations holds true today just as much as it did in yester-years. However, that network also includes highly respected people at many other colleges that you would never expect. In fact, it may well be easier to meet that person at blank State School than at Harvard - thus your chances of attending Harvard Med may well be higher at blank State School.</p>
<p>Bottom Line, I think we agree that all schools may offer equal chances of getting into top ranked medical schools. One needs to remember the olde addage that it is easier to be a “hottie” at a small pond than in a big ocean.</p>
<p>Also beware “pre-med” majors. Many adcoms look down on them.</p>
<p>“While going to Harvard undergrad and getting to know Harvard faculty may not increase your chances of getting into Harvard Med”</p>
<p>I’m not 100% convinced that this is true. Many Harvard premeds take graduate courses with HMS faculty and do research with them. I would expect that med school recommendations from that faculty has some effect on admissions to HMS.</p>
<p>It is a matter of mays. It can help, but ultimately there are more Harvard pre-meds than medical student spots. So, even if you have a glowing and influencial letter from a Harvard prof, you still might get beat out by the 299 other Harvard applicants with glowing and influential letters from Harvard profs if you aren’t at the top of the pack in other areas.</p>
<p>Well we’ll see in a few weeks how true that statement is.</p>
<p>Actually, we will have to wait til march for Harvard :D</p>