Best PreMed Programs

<p>I agree that Cornell is NOT a second rate pre med school. That´s just crazy talk. They are an excellent school, and a large number of students that I met while interviewing for medical school were from Cornell (they have a really pretty medical school, btw. It´s a bit hard to do much with them during the school year, but I seem to recall that some undergrads were able to, and many did summer stuff at them and their affiliates). </p>

<p>To the question asker about good pre med schools, I think that if you take the top 200 or so universities and liberal arts colleges, your chances of going wrong are slim. Most ECs available at one university for pre meds seem to be pretty equivalent with those at an other (thats just my experience and opinion, take it with as much salt as you like).</p>

<p>So I am currently a high school senior interested in going into the medical field. I’ve been researching undergraduate schools and have basically gotten mixed results. I’m planning on being a Chemistry major, I have a 4.22 average weighted GPA and a 3.94 unweighted GPA, a 2140 SAT-I score, and a 770 SAT-II Chemistry score.</p>

<p>What are my chances of getting into schools such as Cal, UCLA, Standford, Columbia, Cornell, etc.? [I’m not applying Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc. I’m not that idealistic. ;p]</p>

<p>And honestly, do I even WANT to go to those schools? From what I’ve been reading, Cal for example has high grade deflation, which can hinder my chances at getting into a good medical school down the road.</p>

<p>What schools have high grade inflation while still maintaining a vigorous course standards?</p>

<p>If anyone can help me, it’d be greatly appreciated. :]</p>

<p>I agree, avoid super deflated schools if you can help it. </p>

<p>Do you have the option of visiting those schools? I have and will always recommend choosing a school by fit. The best way to do that is to visit and see if it energizes you to be there.</p>

<p>“According to you guys, most ivy-league schools with the exception of cornell and other grade-inflated schools such as stanford are very good pre-med schools”
LOLLLL. Harvard and yale probably have more grade inflation than stanford.
And the fact that 300 or so graduates end up going to medical school (a ridiculous number matriculating at top 10 med schools) really makes stanford a poor choice…please.</p>

<p>Yeah, I hear that Harvard curves on a B+, but don’t quote me on that.</p>

<p>I don’t understand what post #464 is trying to say.</p>

<p>Let me translate #464 for you. “Stanford is mo’ bettah good.”</p>

<p>… I still don’t get it. =(</p>

<p>We’ll break it down. </p>

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Analysis- This poster will be attending Stanford in the fall, therefore, Stanford (being “mo’ bettah good” ) is more demanding of her students than Harvard or Yale are of the Stanford rejects that attend their third tier toilets. </p>

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Insert : of Stanford

Analysis: rankings are only important when it reflects positively on the poster’s chosen UG school which btw some think looks surprisingly similar to a massive La Quinta

Insert: for pre-medical studies

Analysis : this is sarcasm. The poster really believes Stanford is “mo’ bettah good” for pre-medical studies.</p>

<p>;););)</p>

<p>curmudgeon, I enjoy your analysis :slight_smile: People could love their own school, but they should not love their own school to the extent that they believe theirs is the only “mo’ bettah good” one in the whole world and start to put down other schools. Many schools could be very good as long as it is a good fit for you and you are able to make the best use of the resources available there.</p>

<p>As regard to which premed program is more difficult, let us just accept that the premed courses at most schools are challenging enough that if you manage to do reasonably well at any of these schools, you are likely a successful premed.</p>

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<p>Actually, according to gradeinflation.com, stanford has a higher mean gpa than either harvard or yale.</p>

<p>Well thats just because Stanford kids are mo betta good.</p>

<p>Uh, where did I put down any other schools? I was merely rejecting someone’s statement that stanford is a bad pre-med school due to grade inflation…I mentioned harvard and yale because they are the predominant examples of grade inflation in the ivies. I think extremely highly of those schools. In fact, I very nearly chose to attend yale over stanford. But I am extremely pleased by your belief that stanford kids are mo betta good :)</p>

<p>sakky, you should be a lawyer… you come up with the greatest info and support to your arguements :D</p>

<p>Hi. I’m a rising senior in high school and i’ve been looking up colleges with pre-med programs. From what I saw in this thread, people talk mostly about ivies with premed. What about universities with premed programs that automatically get you into medical school as long as you keep a certain gpa and have an above average mcat grade? i’ve been looking into the 7 yr premed programs in Boston University, CUNY- Sophie Davis, Stony Brook, Rice, Drexel, Tufts, etc. Can anyone please give me advice on these programs/schools?</p>

<p>They are called combined BA/MD or BS/MD medical programs. They are very competetive programs which allow you to perform your undergraduate studies on an accelerated path and you matriculate in to the medical school of that university as long as you keep your gpa above the minimum requirement and you get above a certain score on the mcat. I recommend these programs highly because there is no competition to get in to medical school, and you are guaranteed in to medical school. But these programs are extremely competitive. Personally I’d say the programs you are interested in are about as difficult to get in to as any ivy league school. There are multiple threads discussing these programs under “Multiple Degree Programs.”</p>

<p>I tried to read this thread, but I am not finding what I need. I understand that there is no set list of “best” pre-med schools, but what I want to know is what are the schools that I should look at (in your opinions) if I am hoping to get into med school in 4 years. I have highly competitive grades and SATs, so the question becomes which schools are considered better for eventual med school application.</p>

<p>And please, I dont really want to read another long post about how all schools have their ups and down. I want a list of what you personally thing would be the best places to apply to.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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No such answer. It’s different for everybody.</p>

<p>See, thats why I asked for the schools “you personally” think are the best. I want to hear people’s individual preferences.</p>

<p>1) Has a research program that is large enough to sustain undergraduate participation.
Look for schools that have undergraduate thesis projects, undergraduate fellowship positions, etc. A school with Research 1 designation is great, because that means there are tons of research projects going on. If you never publish or present a paper, that’s fine. However, doing so can be a major boost, especially if you are author or co-author, or even 29th author of a paper that makes it into a major journal like Nature. It does not necessarily have to be medically related research, but I would recommend it if you are contemplating MD/PhD.</p>

<p>2) A moderately well known school.
I personally would recommend limiting your choices to one of the top 200 or so schools. You want a school that has had a decent number of pre-meds, because this increases the chances of an admissions committee knowing something about the opportunities available at your school. It also increases your chances of getting good advising from a pre-med office. I am a member of the faction that believes that prestige is not a significant factor in the admissions process. Having gone to a public school that isn’t even ranked in the Top 100, I have interviewed at a number of the Top 20, 10, and 5 schools. I personally believe that your own merits outweigh the name of your school significantly. This is not to say that I believe a 3.5 is the same as one school than another. Admissions committees often have “experts” on a given school, or look at statistics like the average GPA and MCAT score of pre-meds in past years. Thus, a 3.5 at Princeton might be more impressive than a 3.5 at John Doe public school, simply because the average GPA and MCAT score at Princeton is a 3.5/33, and a 3.5/28 at John Doe. Clearly, it was harder to earn a 3.5 and 33 at Princeton than a 3.5 and 33 at John Doe (though, the equal MCAT scores would somewhat minimize this). Suffice it to say that a 3.5 and 28 at Harvard isn’t going to beat out a 3.8 and 31 at John Doe, all other things being equal. This being said, I feel that opportunities at the more prestigious undergrad schools outside of academics are excellent. However, I feel that any big public school like OSU, ASU, etc will have similar opportunities by virtue of their sheer size. Any school that made it in the top 200 should have enough of everything for you to succeed if you are good enough. If you are good enough at one place, you are good enough anywhere, so long as you aren’t handicapped.</p>

<p>3) A School with a medical school or that is near one.
The inside man always has an advantage. If you went to Harvard College, you will have a stronger shot at Harvard Med. This is because you have three years to build relationships with the medical school, do research under doctors affiliated (and thus get letters) with the school, and become an expert on that school. The opportunity to work with doctors at any medical school probably increases your chances everywhere. There is always the chance that they will be recognized, and its a great way to get insight in academic medicine.</p>

<p>4) Go to a school near a reasonably sized city.
Cities have a lot going for them by virtue of their huge populations. There are all sorts of activities available in research, community service, and just fun things that will make you a more well rounded and interesting person. Being near a city means you will also be near at least a few good hospitals or clinics. This saves you on travel time and ease of access, as it is likely students from your school have already built connections with nearby schools.</p>