<p>Kids in CA pick UCB and UCLA over Ivys due to the fact that the tuiton is cut in half and their education is about the same.</p>
<p>
[quote]
ur SAt should be 1200 and not a coveted 2400
[/quote]
Yeah, I'm sure the example that you gave above sure happens frequently..</p>
<p>In this order:</p>
<p>UC Berkeley
UCLA
William and Mary
UVA
UNC Chapel Hill
UMich
UFlorida
Miami University (Ohio)
UCSD</p>
<p>schell, i was giving an extreme...
Assume a 800, 600, 600 situation..... Its just that you should be able to handle one sitting. In an exam, u cant ace Questions from one chapter once and the other chapter next time and then expect full marks...</p>
<p>My point is, the example that you're giving very rarely happens. I've never seen someone get a 700m/500v and then next test, out of no where, get 500m/700v. I personally have never seen it happen like that. I've seen pretty major increases in a section but I doubt those come at major decreases in another.</p>
<p>by chance if u goof a section, u shd pay for it, not retake and have ur previous ones okay but this section anew.</p>
<p>I personally think that one sitting scores should be taken, that way people wont retake joblessly.... I took it once and left it at that.. I got an 800m/640v... I could have retaken after working on it to get a 700+v and keep the 800m even if I messed up the second time.. and thats not right to me , so I didnt retake</p>
<p>UIUC is definitely in the top 10, and most certainly higher in ranking than UFlorida, Miami U, UC-Irvine, Penn State, or even UT-Austin for that matter</p>
<p>No love for UT Austin?</p>
<p>alwaysfaithful- don't underestimate UCI... the school has a medical school and is planning out a law school. It is a new university and has already acheived a lot of good things. Every year it climbs in rankings and has received worldwide attention. It hosts a number of noble prize winners and so forth... don't talk crap about a school you know little about...</p>
<p>"don't underestimate UCI...it hosts a number of nobel prize winners and so forth..."</p>
<p>Oh really? Well, in terms of number of Nobel prize laureates, UIUC is in the top 15 among all the universities in the world, including Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, U. Chicago</p>
<p>Wow... you quote the one sentence from my entire paragraph that you can counter... original...</p>
<p>"Theres lots of great public universities and Berkeley is good but not in everything just like any school. Don't believe this crap US News puts out. The so called top 20 schools are all private universities and then they put berkeley at # 20. I wouldn't go to berkeley for straight biology becasue guess what, you can't major in just plain biology at Berkeley. US News is garbage and you could rightly argue that all the UC's are great schools even the crap child of the system, UC Riverside."</p>
<p>Actually, the "conventional" biology program at most universities is the Integrative Biology major at Cal. Just wanted to let you know...</p>
<p>[ol]
[<em>]UCB
[</em>]Virginia
[<em>]Michigan
[</em>]UCLA
[li]UNC-Chapel Hill[/li][/ol]</p>
<p>According to US News
1. University of CaliforniaBerkeley<br>
2. University of Virginia<br>
3. Univ. of CaliforniaLos Angeles<br>
University of MichiganAnn Arbor<br>
5. U. of North CarolinaChapel Hill<br>
6. College of William and Mary (VA)
7. Univ. of CaliforniaSan Diego<br>
8. Univ. of WisconsinMadison<br>
9. Georgia Institute of Technology<br>
10. University of CaliforniaIrvine<br>
11. U. of IllinoisUrbana-Champaign<br>
12. Univ. of CaliforniaSanta Barbara<br>
University of Washington<br>
14. Pennsylvania State U.University Park<br>
University of CaliforniaDavis<br>
16. University of Florida<br>
17. University of TexasAustin<br>
18. Univ. of MarylandCollege Park<br>
19. University of Georgia<br>
University of Pittsburgh </p>
<p>I think however another important part is value:</p>
<ol>
<li>California Institute of Technology 57% $13,197 66%
<ol>
<li>Harvard University (MA) 50% $16,323 62% </li>
<li>Princeton University (NJ)</li>
<li>Yale University (CT) </li>
<li>Massachusetts Inst. of Technology </li>
<li>Rice University (TX) </li>
<li>Stanford University (CA) </li>
<li>Dartmouth College (NH) </li>
<li>Duke University (NC)
<ol>
<li>U. of North Carolina Chapel Hill* </li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania </li>
<li>Columbia University (NY) </li>
<li>Cornell University (NY) </li>
<li>Vanderbilt University (TN) </li>
<li>University of Chicago </li>
<li>Johns Hopkins University (MD) </li>
<li>University of Virginia* </li>
<li>Brown University (RI) </li>
<li>University of Notre Dame (IN) </li>
<li>Washington University in St. Louis </li>
<li>Northwestern University (IL) </li>
<li>Brigham Young Univ. Provo (UT) </li>
<li>Case Western Reserve Univ. (OH) </li>
<li>Howard University (DC) </li>
<li>Emory University (GA) </li>
<li>Lehigh University (PA) </li>
<li>Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. (NY) </li>
<li>Texas A&M Univ. College Station* </li>
<li>Tufts University (MA) </li>
<li>University of Texas Austin* </li>
<li>University of Rochester (NY) </li>
<li>Clark University (MA) </li>
<li>North Carolina State U. Raleigh* </li>
<li>Pepperdine University (CA) </li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University (PA) </li>
<li>Wake Forest University (NC) </li>
<li>Worcester Polytechnic Inst. (MA) </li>
<li>Univ. of Southern California </li>
<li>University of the Pacific (CA) </li>
<li>Brandeis University (MA) </li>
<li>University of Georgia* </li>
<li>Tulane University (LA) </li>
<li>Georgetown University (DC) </li>
<li>University of Miami (FL) </li>
<li>Boston College </li>
<li>Illinois Institute of Technology </li>
<li>Yeshiva University (NY) </li>
<li>St. Louis University </li>
<li>Loyola University Chicago </li>
<li>SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry*</li>
</ol></li>
</ol></li>
</ol>
<p>William and Mary</p>
<p>
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UCI is ranked 40... but should be in the top 30... come on... USC is number 30... that's what i call crap.
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<p>that's just because we are better than you! HA (jk) Seriously, don't be bringing down USC.. =_=</p>
<p>Anyways i think the top tier public universities are: UC berkeley, UVa, and UCLA... (well that's all i can think of right off my head)</p>
<p>The top 5 publics to me would be UCB, UCLA, UVA, W&M, UMich. USC, while not public, has improved its admissions stats greatly in the last few years. It would be interesting to try to measure how much lower the admit % and how much high their yield and avg SATs were because of Matt Leinart staying for one last season. Kind of similar to Northwestern's substantial academic improvement a decade before by making their first Rose Bowl since 1949.</p>
<p>^ about USC..:</p>
<p>
[quote]
The acceptance rate for next year's incoming freshmen was just below 25 percent, 3 percent lower than last year's rate of 27 percent. </p>
<p>USC received approximately 34,000 freshman applications this year and admitted approximately 8,400 students. </p>
<p>"The number of freshman applications increased by about 7.5 percent (approximately 2,400 applications) over last year," Timothy Brunold, director of admissions at USC wrote in an e-mail.
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</p>
<p>and...:</p>
<p>Acceptance rate of 24.7%</p>
<p>The middle 50% of SATs was 2020 - 2200</p>
<p>20% of admits are on their way to becoming their high school's valedictorian</p>
<p>Cal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<ol>
<li>UC-Berkeley</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>UNC-Chapel Hill</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>William & Mary</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>UIUC</li>
<li>Georgia Tech</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>UCI</li>
<li>U Washington</li>
<li>UCSB</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Texas</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>UGA</li>
<li>UCD</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>NC State</li>
</ol>
<p>Just my opinion...</p>