<p>Socal70: thanks it really helped</p>
<p>UNIVERSITY of Michigan is first in business/ economics…
That is good.</p>
<p>someone tell me about the econ program at UCLA please. difficulty, prestige, and which top graduate schools commonly accept UCLA econ majors?</p>
<p>What do you guys think of amherst? compared to other lacs</p>
<p>IS THAT LIST FROM WSJ UNDERGRAD OR GRAD SCHOOLS?</p>
<p>and where does binghamton fall into place?-it’s not on any list. </p>
<p>and some of those rankings seem weird- rutgers before harvard for business/econ?</p>
<p>GROUP I:
Harvard University
Masachusetts Institute of Technology
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of Chicago
Yale University</p>
<p>GROUP II:
Northwestern University
University of California-Berkeley
University of Pennsylvania
Columbia University</p>
<p>GROUP III:
University of California-Los Angeles
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Carnegie Mellon University</p>
<p>GROUP IV:
Brown University
Cornell University
Duke University
Johns Hopkins University
New York University
University of Texas at Austin
University of Wisconsin-Madison</p>
<p>GROUP V:
Boston University
University of California-San Diego
University of Maryland-College Park
University of Minnesota</p>
<p>Sorry for resurrecting this old thread, but I’m a current junior very interested in Georgetown and Northwestern and I’m definitely planning on majoring in economics and working in finance or going to law school. I liked Georgetown slightly better, but I’m worried about the strength of the Economics program. If I’m not planning on going to grad school for economics, is Northwestern’s program that much stronger for finance jobs or business school?</p>
<p>How is a b.s. In economics and an MBA in finance from Binghamton? Could I get a job in the finance/banking field??</p>
<p>When people rank Michigan’s economics department, is it taken into account that econ. is not apart of their prestigious Ross Business School, and in fact in their general LSA school? It surprises me that an economics degree in Michigan’s LSA school is ranked in the likes of econ degrees at UCLA, CMU, etc.</p>
<p>People keep adding UCSD to undergrad business school rankings.</p>
<p>University of San Diego is a top ranked private business school.</p>
<p>University of California, San Diego (UCSD) is not. It’s a public school famous for biological sciences with a fairly recently “renovated” business department.</p>
<p>Two totally different schools famous for totally different things.</p>
<p>In California, Haas at Berkeley and Orfalea at CalPoly are the best public undergraduate programs, probably followed by UCLA, UCSB, and… (?). The first two really place an emphasis on their business schools though and the others are bio/research universities with a token economics major. Good, but token.</p>
<p>The private rankings are a lot more debatable (USD, USC, etc). We have private business schools up the wazoo here, which probably explains why most UCs neglect it.</p>
<p>Why would an Economics rankings conducted by Economics professors confuse Ross with the Economics department? Obviously, they are rating the Economics department as a completely separate entity from Ross. </p>
<p>At any rate, I am not sure why you feel that a department in the school of LSA would necessarily be weaker than UCLA or CMU. The school of LSA at Michigan has many top ranked programs, which explains why Michigan is widely regarded as one of the very best universities to pick up a classical liberal arts education. </p>
<p>The departments of Anthropology, Classics, History, Mathematics, Political Science, Philosophy, Psychology and Sociology are all ranked among the top 10 in the US. The departments of Computer Science, Economics, English and Physics are ranked around the top 10 in the nation. Only Biology and Chemistry are ranked out of the top 15, but still among the top 20. </p>
<p>Overall, if you average all the traditional disciplines in the Humanities and Sciences mentioned above, Michigan’s school of LSA is tied at #7 in the nation along with Chicago and Columbia. </p>
<p>In Economics specifically, the department is usually ranked at the same level as Caltech, Columbia, Cornell, Minnesota-Twin Cities, NYU, Penn, UCLA, UCSD and Wisconsin-Madison.</p>
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Don’t forget about other powerhouses like Northwestern, Yale, Duke, and U of Maryland Alexandre!!</p>
<p>Northwestern and Yale are actually better than Michigan in Econ. I would compare NU and Yale to Cal, Princeton and Stanford in Econ. </p>
<p>Duke and Maryland are indeed in the same league, as are Brown and CMU.</p>
<p>Alexandre, I would say that Princeton, MIT, Chicago, Harvard, Berkeley, and Stanford are the 6 best schools bar none for Economics. Once you get beyond this 6, its tough to say since a lot of rankings contradict one another at this point. I would say the next group consists of Yale, NU, Penn, Columbia, Wisconsin, and NYU. It would be a stretch to say NU is as good as Stanford or Yale is as good as Princeton is this specific field.</p>
<p>It’s interesting to see the slight variations since you posted your original tiering system in 2006. Wisconsin and Maryland have improved tremendously with new faculty hires while Berkeley and Duke have gotten slightly stronger. Wash U is the only newcomer to the pantheon of “elite” economics programs. Overall, reputations in this field have stayed pretty static as you can expect with pretty much every other academic area.</p>
<p>So if you don’t go to these top tier schools, is your econ degree pretty much worthless?</p>
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<p>Where would you place Chicago then?</p>
<p>The best undergrads in the country are in Liberal Arts (I mean Reed, Grinnell, Harvey)
NOT IVY LEAGUES AND UNIVERSITIES, i can’t stress that enough… -_-</p>
<p>Oh my, where to go? What if I get into all? What if none? A super LAC over a top 15 Econ U?</p>
<p>Maybe it’s not a great major anywayfor me?? Econ to law school to DC lobbyist. Seems like not leaving home finishing my BS in two years at age 20 in geophysicist/energy/geothermal/solar is smarter. then Law degree or public policy Princeton Woodrow Wilson or Harvard Kennedy. want public or private policy. and the $$$$ consdieration. stay here, won’t have to use my GIBill and then it can go for grad school. </p>
<p>overwhelmed. what to do, where to go. I definitely need to go where the guidance and advising is superior, since I’m lost.</p>
<p>I guess Princeton would be where I’d go then CAL for Econ, if I’d be so lucky to have such a choice. I have applied to Williams, Amherst, Carleton, Middlebury, Emory, Dartmouth, UCSD, Pomona, [had Columbia and Rice but told them to put my app where the sun doesn’t shine after dealing with their FinAid]. I just love my app interactions with Williams. Seems if they’re great now, I’ll be in good hands- same with Princeton and WUSTL and UCSD and CAL. It all seems so obvious where to go after reading pages of this thread, but I still don’t get it. I think I’ll get better care, advising at Williams over any. How does one choose Williams versus Amherst (Amherst 100% paid with Dad’s GIBill), ?? How does one choose
Williams over Princeton, CAL, Dartmouth, Brown? I believe I shall, if so lucky to choose,but perhaps not, how can one not go to Princeton. Who are these lucky students who are given choices between such schools and what do they chooose and why.???
I doubt they’re bothering to read such a post.</p>
<p>I know this is weak, but UCSD’s Revelle College, my dorm is ON the BEACH in fabulous, tony, upscale, gorgeous So Cal’s La Jolla. As I type, the entire east seaboard from Phillie to maine is being shut-down due to massive blizzard, all public transpo Logan Boston etc. Yuck. I’m Western US spoiled. Cal is great, but it’s not the beach and it’s the congested SFBay, where everyone’s tries to to the mountains or beach on the weekends, except poor students. I know , it sounds like I should do some gap time…back to the birth place and hang ten at UofHawaii.</p>
<p>Of all the U’s I’ve applied, UCSD, Princeton, and WUSTL are the most responisive and pleasant in the app process - it’s early Feb, so a month to go to see if anyone wants me.</p>
<p>Claremont Mckenna has been hyped by it’s own politicizing. they were busted for faking rating game results to USN last year. Their program only required one semester of Calc - what I did over summer after 10th grade, they have a little field trip program to DC, but most of their grads end up local politics, bus, L.A., the water company, PUC, etc. A prof I wrote called people with higher math, “math quants” and i got the feelign of disdain. Pomona is a way better school with better students and expectations, but it is a long way from DC and NYC.</p>
<p>How badly would I mess myself up job and internship and grad school wise to go to UCSD over a LAC, like Williams or Amherst? seems like quite a bit since these tiny schools launch their graduates to great heights. How about Dartmouth over WUSTL or vice versa. I like WUSTL better just from the app process. Dartmouth lets one know they’d be doing one a favor to be admitted, and I guess so. But I’m not into the Greek happy institutions or football crazed campuses, so Dartmouth seems like lousy choice, even though I’m an expert snow skier.</p>
<p>I want to go where I 'll get amazing advising. I don’t think CAL or UCSD can hold a candle to WUSTL, Princeton, Williams, Amherst. and I worry about Brown. I like Brown over so many with intense Core’s , like Columbia, since I can design my own program. I am going to college with almost 50 Dual Credits and don’t want to repeat work , would rather go to other or higher levels in what I’ve covered.</p>
<p>I write as if I’ll have a choice. I’d be lucky if any of these schools accepted me…carleton, emory, pomona. </p>
<p>I did take BYU and Boston College off my list when I saw the religious course requirements. They are best for Catholics and Mormans, but I know people go there who are not and fake it or try to take the least religiously invasvie courses to meet requirement.</p>
<p>My dream school fantasy, like so many, is Princeton. The education, guidance, care, quality of peers, doors opened would be second to none. What’s their acceptance rate?</p>
<p>8%. I guess fantasy is the right word.</p>
<p>BTW, it’s not for me, but my kid. he’s really looking to me to help him figure out what I nkow of him and what he likes and what would be the best parley to acutalize himself. Again, it’s obvious I have no clue, so he’d best go where the adivising is caring and accurate and personable…small lac or super fabulous private U. I do not want to see four years go by and the same questions and wonders about what to do with oneself once the cushion of college before life responsibility of work/survival/contribution/family set in.</p>
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<p>That may be true for grad schools. But for undergrad, aren’t all schools pretty much the same? Don’t they all use the same textbooks, and haven’t all the profs earned their PhDs at the same top schools? If you want to go to grad school in econ, you likely will end up taking introductory grad courses as an undergrad, and in that situation maybe there is an argument for going to a “top” school. But, otherwise, does it matter?</p>
<p>SoCalDad2, the only thing about your assumption that is correct is that if you take frosh micro and macro, the AP level not the next layer of these two or further layers, then they’re all about the same, cause they all take the AP for credit. I suppose if you’re at hoity toity small lib arts school known for Econ such as Swarthmore, Williams, Amherst, then maybe you might here something extra special from an Nobel prize winning prof teaching the frosh which you might encounter at Princeton as well, where all the profs have to teach at least X # of ugrad courses. In my mind princeton is number 1: Ivy League that focuses on ugrads like the above small lib arts.</p>