Best university in florida?

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<p>Interesting final statement BaghDAD considering you make some bold statements:</p>

<p>Regarding admission rate, that’s a poor way to measure university quality. I like to cite examples such as Illinois and GT for their 70/60% (respectively) admit rates but good reputations. I’m sure UMiami gets plenty of applicants that just want to live in an affluent suburb of Miami. Somehow corn fields and the Deep South don’t have the same sexiness to them.</p>

<p>As for SAT’s, it’s inherently true that public schools will have a lower SAT average than a comparable private school simply because public schools are ultimately run by bureaucrats who compel the universities to admit people from all over the state. This means is always going to be a fraction of people who just do not belong there and got in by living in the right area, but to argue the other way this means that the people that lived in the wrong areas that were admitted are just that much more talented.</p>

<p>Finally, why don’t you link a few more Miami-related pages? I like this one [List</a> of University of Miami alumni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Miami_alumni]List”>List of University of Miami alumni - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>80% of the people listed there are involved in entertainment of some kind, with a smattering of politicians and lawyers, a small handful of businessmen and exactly four scientists. Who needs astronauts or Pulitzer Prize winners when you’ve got the Rock? At least tell the full story about UMiami, as it seems to me like it’s not a place where you go if you’re serious about academics (why else would someone post on these boards?)</p>

<p>I don’t usually respond to these types of threads but it seems like the Florida posters in aggregate are some of the worst offenders of spreading propaganda.</p>

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<p>UF is the best for business. Their MBA admissions standards are close to that of schools in the Ivy League.</p>

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<p>You live in Ft. Myers too? o.o</p>

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<p>My advice on the Florida schools is, if you aren’t going to FSU or UF stay in your region. </p>

<p>All the directional schools in Florida are the same, low tier 3/4/unranked commuter schools with little reputation outside the state of Florida. Unless you want a specific program that is very strong at one of them, stay in your region. UCF isn’t that much better than FGCU in the state and are viewed very similar outside the state. Go to the commuter school in your region and save on the housing, you will not be getting a great college experience at any of the directional commuter schools so you might as well stay at home and go to the one in your area. In Fort Myers, that would be FGCU.</p>

<p>If you want a real college experience go to FSU or UF. </p>

<p>I speak from personal experience, if you are going to a commuter school go to the one in your region. I am from Fort Myers and had a miserable time at UCF for two years and am currently debating whether to stay here and go to FGCU or go to FSU. No way will I go back to an out of area commuter school.</p>

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<p>GT,</p>

<p>Man, what happened, you have a bad 24 hrs straight playing Warcraft or discovered the premise of the show “Big Bang Theory” is totally not plausible? </p>

<p>Let’s talk propaganda…one form is repeating a totally unsupportable statement enough times so people will believe you. Such as the following statement:
“as it seems to me like it’s not a place where you go if you’re serious about academics (why else would someone post on these boards?)” Yes, GT you know for sure EVERYONE who goes to UM isn’t serious about academics. Very Goebbels like, the bigger the lie, the better.</p>

<p>Secondly, you can just not show any contrasting evidence. You know, not show other information which could weaken your position…funny, I see I posted UF/FSU’s CDS sites so the OP could see them. Parent2Noles could highlight favorable info in the CDS reported by their school, same with a UF supporter. Gee, opened myself up there.</p>

<p>Now, about those astronauts and Pulitzer Prize winners…Yes, I forgot, Von Braun designed the Saturn V by himself, John Glenn was President and entertainers, biz types and lawyers are obviously inferior humans because they are not EEs. I have worked at a highly regarded, engineering-focused graduate school, specifically with the EE and ME community. Thankfully, most all of the profs did not share your didain for grads of other schools than their own, instead fostering research in a “everyone can contribute” environment. I don’t know, maybe it is the GT environment. Let me check your favorite source Wikipedia:</p>

<p>“Despite these offerings, Georgia Tech carries a strong reputation for being more of a test of spirit than an enjoyable life experience. In 2001, The Princeton Review placed Tech among the 10 toughest colleges and universities in the United States and later reported that Tech’s heavy workload led to “overly stressed” students with “minimal time for social functions”. In 2002, the Review ranked Tech No. 2 on its list of colleges and universities with the “least happy students”, prompting Institute officials to publish a report the following year responding to the negative publicity. The report criticized the Review for the lack of scientific rigor in its methods and referred to data from internal opinion surveys demonstrating increased student satisfaction in several areas. Among students, it is widely believed that a sacrifice of sleep, studying, or a social life defines “the Tech lifestyle”. For these reasons, students commonly refer to graduation from Tech simply as “getting out”.”</p>

<p>Finally, as the CDS shows, many smart students do attend at UMiami. Yeah, I know, not serious about academics despite the 4.45 GPAs and 1350 SATs out of HS. They turn down many good schools to go where The Rock graduated from…many might have a chance at law school. I sure hope so. That way, when some Chinese engineers from some no-name university over there (no Pulitzer Prize winners, no astronauts) totally blow your microelectronic work away, you can always hire one of them to sue; protecting what you perceive as your “Intellectual Property” rights. I just hope they charge you double the hourly rate.</p>

<p>I’m sorry, maybe that was too harsh. Please make youself feel better by going to McDonalds…don’t eat too much though, you wouldn’t want to enrich their CFO. He is a UMiami grad. </p>

<p>Now back to comparing FLORIDA schools</p>

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<p>Nice ad hominems, but as I know nothing about you I’ll decline to indulge myself.</p>

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<p>Well I was kind of banking on the fact that SSobick or someone would have linked a UF or FSU alumni list by now but that doesn’t appear to be the case. If you look at them though they’re much more balanced across all areas:
[List</a> of Florida State University people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Florida_State_University_people]List”>List of Florida State University people - Wikipedia)
[List</a> of University of Florida people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Florida_people]List”>List of University of Florida alumni - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>If I were a high school senior looking for a college where I thought I would have a chance at being successful in whatever I do, I would definitely look more favorably at FSU or UF than Miami based on how many from each school “made it big” in their areas. Of course you have tried to argue that UMiami is up and coming, but honestly if it actually were up and coming then it wouldn’t have many distinguished alumni at all.</p>

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<p>I have nothing against lawyers or business types, but you have misinterpreted what I wrote to be condescending toward them, which it was not meant to be. Those professions both contribute to society in meaningful ways. However, I don’t think having 80% of Miami’s distinguished alumni being such venerable fellows as Steve-o makes people look at the school seriously. I am from Florida (and I also graduated from a Florida university) and the only people who went to UMiami from my high school were rich kids with a propensity for goofing off (they had high scores though, so my statement about kids going there not being serious about academics and yours about 1300s SAT scores are not mutually exclusive).</p>

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<p>Compared to UF:</p>

<p>University of Miami has a lousy alumni base, weaker graduate/professional programs, a more regional reputation, a weaker peer assessment score, and is way overpriced.</p>

<p>Famous UF Alumni - [List</a> of University of Florida people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Florida_alumni]List”>List of University of Florida alumni - Wikipedia)</p>

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<p>The “U” can not even compete with Miami University</p>

<p>[List</a> of Miami University alumni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miami_University_alumni]List”>List of Miami University people - Wikipedia)</p>

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<p>OP-
Florida Gulf Coast University is in Ft. Myers [Florida</a> Gulf Coast University - Fort Myers, Florida](<a href=“http://www.fgcu.edu/]Florida”>http://www.fgcu.edu/) It is a University (not a college) and offers undergrad and masters degrees-- listed as a third tier school. As an aside, be careful about the “tier” ratings, and you can’t really compare apples to oranges. For example, you will find Flagler College (a college, not a university) listed in the category of schools offering only undergrad degrees, a category further broken down by region. In the South, its listed in the top 50, but I would be wary of comparing this school (with average SATS of 1030-1200/1600 in the 2008 USNews issue). To put it in perspective, the top 3 schools in this category (Best bacallaurate in the southern region) in 2008 were Ouachita Babtist University in AR, Erskine College in SC and LaGrange College in GA . We are not comparing Flagler to LACs that one might traditionally think of when thinking of Tier 1 schools (Williams, Amherst, etc). Not putting the Southern Bacc. schools down, just putting it in perspective.</p>

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<p>Gordon_Gekko. Just have to make a correction in your previous statement. Stanford is not any where near LA.</p>

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<p>Rollins is a very good school in Winter Park.</p>

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<p>Gordon_Gekko. Just have to make a correction in your previous statement. Stanford is not any where near LA.</p>

<p>Thanks. I don’t know what I thought Palo Alto was in the LA area.</p>

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<p>GT,</p>

<p>Sorry just got back from a week of “goofing off” (othewise known as vacation). I didn’t realize your anecdotal High School experience was the be all, end all of university decisions…if it helps, the ones in my HS who went to UMiami were not “goof off” types. Cancels it out, don’t you think. I also feel better that you have deemed lawyers worthy to be living on the planet with engineers.</p>

<p>All this distinguished alumni stuff, Wow! I think USMA should be the #1 school of all time. Yes, Generals win wars all by themselves. If you don’t make the list, obviously you don’t matter and bring shame to your school. Sure hope your not disappointed if you don’t make Wiki’s list in 2025</p>

<p>'bick,</p>

<p>Good to see you again. Hey, can you even tell me, without using Google Earth/Wikipedia, etc. what town Miami U is in? What part of Ohio? The fact Donna S. didn’t graduate from there. Again, all the schooling those students in Oxford complete won’t mean squat unless they are on a Wikipedia alumni list.</p>

<p>Oh, I am still waiting on an answer from this thread:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-miami-florida/732689-university-florida-president-cooks-rankings.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-miami-florida/732689-university-florida-president-cooks-rankings.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>C’mon 'bick, I just have to know what you and Bernie think…</p>

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<p>Florida Gulf Coast University is beautiful.</p>

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<p>University of Miami. duhhh.</p>

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<p>University of Florida. duhhh.</p>

<p>Go Gators.</p>

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<p>“UF is the best for business. Their MBA admissions standards are close to that of schools in the Ivy League.”</p>

<p>Rollins has an awesome MBA as well (and is the best school in the state if you’re looking solely for the private LAC experience). The b-school there operates solely at the graduate level, however. It only offers an MBA program which is awesome for MBA students obviously (extremely small class sizes with top professors) but sucks for everyone else haha. Plus, it’s pricey so factor that into the equation as well.</p>

<p>Also, I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that UF MBA’s admission standards are close to that of the Ivy League. No b-school in the south, other than Duke and maybe Vandy/Emory, is close to the prestige level of those business programs. Not to say that UF is bad at all as it has a huge edge over just about every other school in the state due to brand name alone.</p>

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<p>^^^UF supporters love to spread that “Harvard of the South” “Ivy League standards” nonsense. It’s almost comical at this point. There must be some serious brain-washing going on in Alachua County. Nobody around the country mentions UF and Ivy League in the same sentence.</p>

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<p>Nor do they any other school in FL.</p>

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<p>^ Really?
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