<p>Funny quote from a college football message board:</p>
<p>“<em>Sigh</em> Watching Texas make up her mind is like watching my fiance shop for shoes!”</p>
<p>“According to sources, Texas will announce as early as today that UT will commit to a 10-member Big 12.”</p>
<p>Assuming the above statement to be true, even w/o ND and TX joining the Big Ten, adding only Nebraska for the Big Ten(12) seems to be a much better deal than the Pac-10(12) adding both Colorado & Utah imho!! :)</p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - Nebraska Football Tradition - 2009](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDED6eUlbMk]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDED6eUlbMk)</p>
<p>College football APR scores:
[Scout.com:</a> How Smart Is Your Program? - The APR Reports](<a href=“http://cfn.scout.com/2/976954.html]Scout.com:”>http://cfn.scout.com/2/976954.html)</p>
<p><em>Alex, don’t look</em></p>
<p>I really think a Pac-10 of 16 teams makes a lot of sense for the Texas schools. But … if Texas stayed put, it might be that the other Texas teams do as well. </p>
<p>Just for sake of discussion, it would be quite interesting to see what a Pac-10 conference does with 11 teams … if they don’t get another Big 12 school … what then?</p>
<p>[munches popcorn]</p>
<p>Wouldn’t it be a riot if the Pac-10 made an offer to Kansas and they were the lone acceptance? :)</p>
<p>Where is it going to be?! Lucus Oil, Ford Field or Soldier Field?? lol</p>
<p>Link: [Ford</a> Field, others interested in hosting potential Big Ten championship game - AnnArbor.com](<a href=“http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-football/ford-field-others-interested-in-hosting-potential-big-ten-championship-game/]Ford”>Ford Field, others interested in hosting potential Big Ten championship game)</p>
<p>Delaney hasn’t made an offer to Texas because thats not how expansion of the conference works. Texas has to apply and be accepted. I’m sure Delaney has made it clear they’ll be accepted, but he can’t offer anything.</p>
<p>ESPN is now reporting Texas, OU, OSU and Tech to Pac-10 imminent…A&M to SEC.
[Sources:</a> Texas’ Pac-10 commitment imminent - ESPN](<a href=“LIVE Transfer Talk: Al Ittihad to bid again to sign Mo Salah - ESPN”>Sources: Texas' Pac-10 commitment imminent - ESPN)</p>
<p>Who the heck do you believe?</p>
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If Big XII (10) stays together, Pac-10 will likely invite Utah. Kansas doesn’t make much sense without OU and UT.</p>
<p>Pac-16 championship would likely be rotated among the Rose Bowl, Cowboys stadium, University of Phoenix stadium and, potentially, new SF 49ers stadium. Eat that, Big Ten…haha!</p>
<p>No doubt that a Pac-16 conference would be a major force and yes a Pac championship in Cowboy Stadium would be really something.</p>
<p>Texas A&M to SEC avoids the Aggies having to go head to head with Oregon for conference track and field championships. Other than some resistance from LSU, they would mop up the SEC in track.</p>
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<p>Good question, but if U Texas have a formal meeting tomorrow (Tuesday) I’m not buying any announcement one way or the other today … so I lean toward the Orangebloods report has shaky.</p>
<p>UCBChem, I don’t think the Pac 10 will overtake the Big 10, even if Texas and Okie join. The Big 10, with Michigan, Nebraska, OSU and PSU, would match the Pac 16 and the SEC. If Notre Dame joins, I think the Big 10 will be the premier conference in the nation.</p>
<p>^ Of course you don’t…you’re a Big Ten/Michigan homer.</p>
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Perhaps slightly for football (but mostly for football HISTORY - you include the elite historical powers and a lot has changed (sound like someone familar? 
). <em>And I understand college football is king.</em></p>
<p>But what about Olympic sports? In terms of Directors Cup, Pac-16 >> Big T(w)e(leve)n.</p>
<p>I was referring to Football…the only sport that matters! ;)</p>
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<p>Even if were possible to determine which is the premier conference in the nation, does it matter? Does the “premier” conference gets more BCS seats? Can a team that dominates an utterly mediocre conference still go to the national championship? </p>
<p>Back to taking nominations for the premier conference, what criteria would you use? National championships? Strength of competition? Number of rivalries that still mean something? Years of creation? </p>
<p>I think you’ll need some type of FPA aka Football Peer Assessment. That way the Michigan fans can stuff the ballots. Fow all we know, they could field a competitive team in the next genearation and one day compete against Notre Dame in a meaningful game again in that premier conference of yours. :)</p>
<p>“Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown.”</p>
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Pac-16 would lobby for two auto bids…sounds “premier” to me if they can pull that off.</p>
<p>UCB, do you think a 16-team Big 10 or SEC would not get two automatic bids too?</p>
<p>xiggi,
Football Peer Assessments! Haha. I bet that the U Michigan fans wish that they had thought of that first. </p>
<p>Their one (shared) championship in the last 60 years may be a little embarassing, not to mention being behind 4 other schools in the Big Ten (Ohio State, Nebraska, Michigan State, Penn State). But if U Michigan could find a way to leverage all of those “prestigious” victories pre-1950, well, the sky’s the limit to what their football PA could be. :)</p>
<p>If Pac-16 becomes a reality, they would HAVE to have two automatic BCS.</p>
<p>In the meantime, here are a few historical facts worth nothing:</p>
<p>National Champions in last four decades</p>
<p>1970-79Big 8: Nebraska, 1970-71; Oklahoma, 1974-75
Independents: Notre Dame, 1973-77; Pittsburgh, 1976
SWC: Texas, 1970
Big 10: Ohio State, 1970
Pac 8: USC. 1972-74
SEC: Alabama, 1978-79</p>
<p>1980-89Independents: Penn State, 1982-86; Miami FL, 1983-87-89; Notre Dame, 1988.
SEC: Georgia, 1980
ACC: Clemson, 1981
WAC: BYU, 1984
Big 8: Oklahoma, 1985</p>
<p>1990-99SEC: Alabama, 1992; Florida, 1996 and Tennessee, 1998
ACC: Georgia Tech, 1990; Florida State, 1993-99
Big 8/12: Colorado, 1990; Nebraska 1994-95-97
Pac 10: Washington, 1991
Big East: Miami FL, 1991</p>
<p>2000-09SEC: Alabama, 2009; Florida, 2006-08 and LSU 2007
Big 12: Oklahoma, 2000 and Texas 2005
Pac 10: USC, 2003-04
Big East: Miami FL, 2001
Big 10: Ohio State, 2002 </p>
<p>I have to admit that the Big 10 looked more impressive in the days of my granddaddy. They did well in the fifties and the sixties.</p>
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Possibly, if Big Ten successfully raids the Big East and SEC raids the ACC.</p>
<p>Hawkette, I do not recall saying Michigan was the premier football program in the nation. I said the Big 10 would be the premier football conference…should Notre Dame join.</p>