Big Ten expansion moves ahead

<p>There are also many calling for shutting down its football program for the next 5 years, effective immediately. While others suggested in wiping out the entire 30 years of its football winning record coached under Sandusky, which included two national titles due to tremendous shame and disgust…</p>

<p>The victims’ mothers sound off,</p>

<p><a href=“http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Victims-mothers-sound-off-on-Penn-State-officials-on-Jerry-Sandusky-110811[/url]”>http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Victims-mothers-sound-off-on-Penn-State-officials-on-Jerry-Sandusky-110811&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>It’s getting worse…</p>

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<p>Oh, you should not worry about that part. You will be “adopted” easily. I think I started posting there. Now, be warned that some of the CC mommies do not take prisoners. :)</p>

<p>Now what would be really interesting is that Penn State wins all its remaining games and the usual suspects accumulate a few more losses leaving an undefeated LSU and Penn State as the only school with one loss. </p>

<p>This would leave the BCS geniuses with lots of 'splaining to do.</p>

<p>Geez… the story is taking life of its own now. Thanks to the media, USA Today is now comparing Penn State with the Catholic priest scandals?!.. @_@"</p>

<p>[Local</a> parallels of Penn State, priest scandals ? USATODAY.com](<a href=“http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-11-08/penn-state-abuse-catholic-church/51126676/1]Local”>http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-11-08/penn-state-abuse-catholic-church/51126676/1)</p>

<p>sighing… It’s getting really really ugly and dark. Even the Governor of PA is heading over to the Happy Valley hoping to resolve the issues… In short, my thoughts and prayers are with the PSU family!! Go Nit… You have my support!! </p>

<p>“Oh, you should not worry about that part. You will be “adopted” easily. I think I started posting there. Now, be warned that some of the CC mommies do not take prisoners.”</p>

<p>Thanks for the heads-up, xiggi. You are right! I don’t think I can survive there… ;p</p>

<p>This is way worse than anyone could imagine… The fact that more and more people, media and authorities alike are all calling for the program to be shunt down for at least a few years if not permanently due to its despicable transgression. </p>

<p>[Penn</a> State football should be retired, permanently - Right Turn - The Washington Post](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.html]Penn”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/penn-state-football-should-be-retired-permanently/2011/11/07/gIQA9oiL0M_blog.html)</p>

<p>[Pa</a>. lawmaker wants federal probe of PSU abuse case | nj.com](<a href=“http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/pa-lawmaker-wants-federal-probe-of-psu/37cccd334f8341f9bc149f07cd329d8d]Pa”>http://www.nj.com/newsflash/index.ssf/story/pa-lawmaker-wants-federal-probe-of-psu/37cccd334f8341f9bc149f07cd329d8d)</p>

<p>B1G might return to 11 teams after all…?! I am sure this is not only the longest night for JoePa but also Jim Delany. Since He can’t conveniently shun away from this whole scandal as the NCAA opted.
[NCAA:</a> Penn State scandal not for us to rule in - YouTube](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)</p>

<p>Here is the Detroit CBS Radio Podcast on the issue (which I agree):</p>

<p>[CBS</a> Podcast Player](<a href=“CBS Detroit - Breaking News, Sports, Weather & Community Journalism”>CBS Detroit - Breaking News, Sports, Weather & Community Journalism)</p>

<p>It is expected that when this is all said and done, PSU will end-up losing many hundreds of millions to lawyers fees and settlements with the victims in the court… But the mental scars will remain for a loooooong time as in the case of my beloved Buckeyes… =.="</p>

<p>I am done for the discussion. G’nite!</p>

<p>There are so many possible outcomes to this tragic scandal. The level of involvement by (and knowledge) the past and current administration (including the AD, school president and Paterno) will determinemuch. </p>

<p>Worst case scenario:

  1. If the university president were in any way involved, as some have suggested, PSU’s football program is finished. The program would be discontinued indefinitely and the entire record of the program since Sandusky joined as coach back in the 1960s. Unfortunately, I do not see how such a major issue could have been kept from the university president. If that is truly the case, the president acted very innapropriately and the university (and its students and alums) will unfortunately be made to pay dearly.</p>

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<li>If the entire drama were truly confined to the athletic department alone, PSU’s entire record while Sandusky was coach should be wiped out and the entire football coaching staff and athletic department leadership should be replaced. </li>
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<p>Regardless, the media and politicians (all of which are guilty of corruption and lies anyway) should lay off and let the facts emerge before passing judgement on an entire university administration/athletic staff. A sad day indeed!</p>

<p>What is the point of doing anything to the football program beyond removing everyone that was actually involved in what happened?</p>

<p>^ Exactly! I understand we as a society like to harshly punish pedophiles, but that’s waaaay too harsh. To deprive a university what has essentially been its identity would be unjust for the alleged action of one and the complacency of some.</p>

<p>If this goes all the way up to the President of the University, I fear greater measures may have to be taken. Breaking NCAA rule is one thing, using the university as a front for sexual abuse and having the university knowlingly cover it up is completely another. </p>

<p>I agree that the punishtment, regardless of its severity, must be temporary (2-5 seasons), but the extent of the punishment will depend greatly on the complicity of the staff at PSU.</p>

<p>One question I have that I haven’t seen an answer to: why is this all coming out now? What transpired for someone to now blow the whistle?</p>

<p>^^^^My understanding is that this has been an ongoing investigation for a few years.</p>

<p>The best case scenario would be that the University acted immediately upon knowing that Sandusky was acting innapropriately, not just internally but also with proactively brining him to justice. If the University was proactive from the moment it knew of Sandusky’s crimes, then the program will be ok. That’s what I am hoping for because I really respect JoePa.</p>

<p>I just heard the comments that Joe Paterno made outside of his house last night and while I had supported him initially, I think it’s time for him to go.</p>

<p>“And as I said, I don’t know if you heard me or not, is, you know, the kids who were victims or whatever they want to say, I think we all ought to say a prayer for them. It’s a tough life when people do certain things to you.”</p>

<p>And then proceeds to lead a mini pep rally “We are…Penn State!”</p>

<p>While I understand he was expressing his gratitude to the students that gathered in front of his house, it doesn’t appear that good when your comments aren’t as sympathetic towards the real victims in all of this.</p>

<p>Pierre, Paterno is 85 years old. People at that age are often out of touch with modern-day realities. To put some perspective into this, he was in during World War II and 40 years old during the Vietnam war. In a way, you are right, he should not be heading a football program at his age. Coaches should retire at the normal age of retirement (65-70).</p>

<p>“I just heard the comments that Joe Paterno made outside of his house last night and while I had supported him initially, I think it’s time for him to go.”</p>

<p>[RAW</a> VIDEO: Joe Paterno talks to Penn State students from his window - YouTube](<a href=“RAW VIDEO: Joe Paterno talks to Penn State students from his window - YouTube”>RAW VIDEO: Joe Paterno talks to Penn State students from his window - YouTube)</p>

<p>If you guys don’t have the time to read through the Grand Jury Indictment Report, at least watch this clip, you will then understand why people have been so angry at PSU’s admin. The ridiculous amount of evidence in cover-up at every level in the chain of command has led to inaction in handling these child abuse scandals since the discovery in 1998. </p>

<p>Many many more children could have been saved, but Sandusky was still allowed to use PSU’s name to host day & overnight camp in order to carry out his vicious predatory act towards these vulnerable children in 2009 and continue to be allowed free-access to utilize PSU’s facilities (crime scene) up until last week!! God knows how many children were put in harm’s way over the decades, thanks to PSU’s mishandling of the crime. They all should be locked up for good (not just resign). </p>

<p>[BobsBlitz.com</a> ~ WFAN’s Kim Jones on Penn State Sandusky, Joe Paterno Disgrace [Audio] - YouTube](<a href=“BobsBlitz.com ~ Kim Jones on Penn State's Jerry Sandusky, Joe Paterno Disgrace [Audio] - YouTube”>BobsBlitz.com ~ Kim Jones on Penn State's Jerry Sandusky, Joe Paterno Disgrace [Audio] - YouTube)!</p>

<p>I feel so sorry for all the little children who were victimized due to PSU’s inaction throughout the decades in harboring the predator roaming around the campus. Penn State knew what was going on all along, from the janitor, to the graduate assistance, to JoePa, to CFO, to AD, to the President of the school. The all chose to remain ‘hush hush’ and instead of these disable children, they chose to protect the criminal who they considered as the best, the most revered defense coach in the school’s history. This is a serious crime, folks!! All administrators involved in covering up or failure to report the incident(s) to the police should be locked up for good, period. There is absolutely no excuse!!</p>

<p>PSU students, alumni and fans alike are all extremely disturbed and disgusted by the current leadership of Penn State. They are at ‘level 7’ now!! lol</p>

<p>[Penn</a> State University - Disgusted! Jerry Sandusky you will pay . . . - YouTube](<a href=“Penn State University - Disgusted! Jerry Sandusky you will pay . . . - YouTube”>Penn State University - Disgusted! Jerry Sandusky you will pay . . . - YouTube)</p>

<p>The very least that PSU should have done was to bar Sandusky from bringing ANY minors into the athletic facilities at the first mention of any improprieties.</p>

<p>Bye JoePa!</p>

<p>[Joe</a> Paterno’s 46-Year Penn State Tenure Ends With Jerry Sandusky Scandal - WSJ.com](<a href=“Paterno, President Out at Penn State - WSJ”>Paterno, President Out at Penn State - WSJ)</p>

<p>I’m sorry but this is not adequate. He needed and should have resigned effective immediately! He gets to quit on his terms. Too bad the children that were brutalized weren’t given the same option. I am totally disgusted with PSU at the moment.</p>

<p>"A chronological look at the case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, based on a grand jury report in Pennsylvania state court. Some key dates in Penn State football history are included. Sandusky has been charged with 40 criminal counts, accusing him of serial sex abuse of minors.</p>

<p>1963-65 — Jerry Sandusky starts his playing career at Penn State University as a defensive end.</p>

<p>1966 — Jerry Sandusky starts his career at Penn State University as a graduate assistant.</p>

<p>1969 — Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as a defensive line coach.</p>

<p>1977 — Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.</p>

<p>January 1983 — Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football’s national champion for the 1982 season.</p>

<p>January 1987 — Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football’s national champion for the 1986 season.</p>

<p>1994 — Boy known as Victim 7 in the report meets Sandusky through The Second Mile program at about the age of 10.</p>

<p>1994-95 — Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at a Second Mile picnic at Spring Creek Park when he is 7 or 8 years old.</p>

<p>1995-96 — Boy known as Victim 5, meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is 7 or 8, in second or third grade.</p>

<p>1996-97 — Boy known as Victim 4, at the age of 12 or 13, meets Sandusky while he is in his second year participating in The Second Mile program.</p>

<p>1996-98 — Victim 5 is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old.</p>

<p>Jan. 1, 1998 — Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky’s wife, as a member of Sandusky’s family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl.</p>

<p>1998 — Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university police, who investigate.</p>

<p>Detective Ronald Schreffler testifies that he and State College Police Department Detective Ralph Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim 6, eavesdrop on two conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky. Sandusky says he has showered with other boys and Victim 6’s mother tries to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not. At the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, “I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won’t get it from you. I wish I were dead.”</p>

<p>Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that it was wrong.</p>

<p>The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.</p>

<p>June 1999 — Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status.</p>

<p>Dec. 28, 1999 — Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky’s wife, as a member of Sandusky’s family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.</p>

<p>Summer 2000 — Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade.</p>

<p>Fall 2000 — A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13.</p>

<p>Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a report. Victim 8’s identity is unknown.</p>

<p>March 1, 2002 — A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.</p>

<p>March 2, 2002 — In the morning, the graduate assistant calls Coach Joe Paterno and goes to Paterno’s home, where he reports what he has seen.</p>

<p>March 3, 2002 — Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director to his home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said.</p>

<p>March 2002 — Later in the month the graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz. The grad assistant reports what he has seen and Curley and Schultz say they will look into it.</p>

<p>March 27, 2002 (approximate) — The graduate assistant hears from Curley. He is told that Sandusky’s locker room keys are taken away and that the incident has been reported to The Second Mile. The graduate assistant is never questioned by university police and no other entity conducts an investigation until the graduate assistant testifies in Grand Jury in December 2010.</p>

<p>2005-2006 — Boy known as Victim 1 says that meets Sandusky through The Second Mile at age 11 or 12.</p>

<p>Spring 2007 — During the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with Victim 1 weekly, having him stay overnight at his residence in College Township, Pa.</p>

<p>Spring 2008 — Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy’s mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.</p>

<p>Early 2009 — An investigation by the Pennsylvania attorney general begins when a Clinton County, Pa. teen boy tells authorities that Sandusky has inappropriately touched him several times over a four-year period.</p>

<p>September 2010 — Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second Mile, saying he wants to spend more time with family and handle personal matters.</p>

<p>Nov. 5, 2011 — Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts.</p>

<p>Nov. 7, 2011 — Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says Paterno is not a target of the investigation into how the school handled the accusations. But she refuses to say the same for university President Graham Spanier. Curley and Schultz, who have stepped down from their positions, surrender on charges that they failed to alert police to complaints against Sandusky.</p>

<p>Nov. 8, 2011 — Possible ninth victim of Sandusky contacts state police as calls for ouster of Paterno and Spanier grow in state and beyond. Penn State abruptly cancels Paterno’s regular weekly press conference.</p>

<p>Nov. 9, 2011 — Paterno announces he’ll retire at the end of the season."</p>

<p>Source: [Key</a> dates in the Penn State sex abuse case - BostonHerald.com](<a href=“http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view.bg?&articleid=1379646&format=&page=1&listingType=colfb#articleFull]Key”>http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view.bg?&articleid=1379646&format=&page=1&listingType=colfb#articleFull)</p>

<p>*That’s nearly half-a-century of being at State College, which makes you wonder how many kids had Sandusky sexually molested. Shocking…</p>

<p>I would guess the numbers and dates will both be expanded greatly. Not something you just decide to do one day. Child molesters are among the must clever, driven and long-term criminals out there.</p>