<p>^^^^Sitting in the shoe at a Michigan vs.TUOS game and wearing maize and blue?</p>
<p>^^ Nice try, rjk!!! That would have been an excellent answer a decade ago though!! ;p</p>
<p>The battle for New York City</p>
<p>September, 2, 2010 Sep 23:13PM
By Brian Bennett</p>
<p>New York City might be the largest market in the country, but as a college football town, it’s apathetic at best. </p>
<p>Several schools and others are trying to change that, as a Wall Street Journal article published Thursday details. Notre Dame and Army are playing in Yankee Stadium this year, and Rutgers is playing in the new Meadowlands complex. The Scarlet Knights have a Yankee Stadium game coming up, and Syracuse plans to hold several of its high-profile games in the coming years in East Rutherford, N.J. And of course, there’s the New Era Pinstripe Bowl debuting this season. </p>
<p>Both Syracuse and Rutgers claim to be New York’s team, while Connecticut has a stake there as well. And don’t forget the “subway alumni” of Notre Dame. Even Miami is trying to tap into the city with a Yankee Stadium appearance. </p>
<p>Will New Yorkers care about any of these games or teams? That’s the question the article poses. Not mentioned is the desire the Big Ten has to get into New York, which might affect the Big East if there’s more expansion. Or the Big East’s hopes of keeping the Big Apple as its own, including potential plans for a TV network based in Manhattan. </p>
<p>The article also has good quotes from Rutgers and Syracuse officials about how important New York is to them, and the Orange’s plan to play 10 games in the New York City area over the next 20 years. </p>
<p>Looks like the nation’s biggest city might also be the biggest battleground in college football</p>
<p>Source: [The</a> battle for New York City - Big East Blog - ESPN](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/11797/the-battle-for-new-york-city]The”>The battle for New York City - ESPN - Big East Blog- ESPN)</p>
<p>Will College Football Sell in New York? </p>
<p>NY SPORTSSEPTEMBER 2, 2010
By KEVIN CLARK </p>
<p>Syracuse, Rutgers, UConn, Army and Notre Dame Are All Trying to Become the City’s Team, Convinced the Answer is Yes </p>
<p>In the early 2000s, Tim Pernetti was responsible for deciding which cities saw which college-football games on ABC. It’s mostly a no-brainer jobPac-10 games in Los Angeles, Big Ten in Chicago, SEC in Atlanta, and problems rarely arose. Except each week, he had to do the one job he dreaded: picking the game that New York City would watch. </p>
<p>“We spent hours and hours deciding. It was frustrating,” said Mr. Pernetti, then ABC Sports’ director of programming and now Rutgers’s athletic director. “There’s no real recipe, and there’s really not another city like it.” </p>
<p>The relationship between college football and the city is one of the wackiest things in New York sports. The last significant game played in the area was in 2002. Only one market in the entire country had a lower TV rating for last year’s BCS national-championship game (New York was 55th, Providence, R.I., was 56th). So there’s a case to be made that being New York’s college-football team in recent years is a bit like being Albuquerque’s curling team.</p>
<p>But a confluence of new stadiums, new strategies to take New York and even a bowl game has resulted in something the city hasn’t seen in years: a crowded college-football landscape, a heightened battle to be the region’s team and, dare we say, a college-football renaissance in New York.</p>
<p>The major games begin this season with Army-Rutgers and Navy-Notre Dame in October at the New Meadowlands Stadium and Notre Dame-Army in November at Yankee Stadium.</p>
<p>The tradition of historically black colleges playing annually in New York will continue as well. On Sept. 25, Howard will face Morgan State in the New York Urban League Classic at the Meadowlands.</p>
<p>But the real battle to be the city’s team will heat up as the decade goes along: Syracuse will host many of its marquee gamesagainst Penn State (2013), Notre Dame (2014, 2016) and Southern California (2012)at the Meadowlands. Army will play in Yankee Stadium every season against teams like Boston College (2014), Rutgers (2011) and Air Force (2012). Rutgers will play at both the Meadowlands and at Yankee Stadium in the next few years, as will Notre Dame.</p>
<p>The games will seemingly put a tangible measurement on who is, in fact, the dominant team in the area. That competition has lately been limited to a war of words.</p>
<p>There’s Rutgers: “We’re not just claiming that. We are New York City’s team,” coach Greg Schiano said.</p>
<p>Syracuse: “Not a day goes by where I think we aren’t New York City’s college football team or we have to grab the market, it’s ours,” coach Doug Marrone said, noting the amount of alumni and history in the region.</p>
<p>And Notre Dame: “Saying we’re New York City’s team would get me in trouble,” athletic director Jack Swarbrick said. “Let’s just say that the city is critical in everything we do.” He later added that he thinks the school’s “subway alumni” of New York City is larger than ever.</p>
<p>This year, which Mr. Pernetti calls “pivotal” to the future of college football in New York, is the culmination of a few different strategies converging. Syracuse athletic director Daryl Gross, thinking the team needed a bigger footprint in New York, has spent five years advertising the school on city billboards and taxicab signs. Mr. Swarbrick made New York a priorityhe began talking to Yankee Stadium within 60 days of his hiring in 2008. Connecticut signed a deal in August with New York cable channel SportsNet New York to show significant programming to the city, joining Rutgers on the channel. Pac-10 coaches even visited New York on a media tour this summer, with commissioner Larry Scott saying his league wants the sort of exposure the city brings</p>
<p>So why do schools want to win the hearts and minds of such an apparently apathetic crowd? Well, for one, there’s the type of alumni that live in the cityArmy athletic director Kevin Anderson noted that many of Army’s alumni in the city work on Wall Street.</p>
<p>There’s recruiting: Like the fans, New York’s college recruits don’t claim allegiance to one school (last year’s top-rated player, Staten Island defensive lineman Dominique Easley, is now at Florida). Ishaq Williams, a four-star recruit from Brooklyn who claims 30 scholarship offers, is being sold on the benefits of playing locally, according to Abraham Lincoln coach Shawn O’Connor. </p>
<p>"Of course, it’s a big advantage in recruiting for these schools because they get to say ‘not only are we national, here’s the chance to play in front of your family,’ " Mr. O’Connor said. </p>
<p>There’s a financial aspect to all of it, of course. Rutgers’s guarantee from the New Meadowlands Stadium is $2.7 million, compared with about $1.5 for a normal home game, according to Mr. Pernetti. Mr. Anderson said that with a game at Yankee Stadium, Army will at least double its ticket revenue from a normal home game, which is between $400,000 and $450,000.</p>
<p>“There’s a windfall, but what you’re getting with the exposure, sponsorship and excitement you can’t even put a value on it,” Mr. Anderson said. “It’s just at another level as far as branding and marketing goes.”</p>
<p>Army’s relationship with Yankee Stadium makes them the unofficial gate-keepers of the stadium. “We could probably schedule Yankee Stadium 15-to-20 years out,” Mr. Anderson said of the interest from other teams. The relationship is based on not only Army’s long history of playing at the old stadium, but also late owner George Steinbrenner’s affinity for the academy. Mr. Steinbrenner was also a major proponent of games at the new stadiumwhere field goals will be kicked into Monument Park.</p>
<p>Because the Yankees assume a deep playoff run each year, the stadium will probably feature two regular-season games per year along with the Pinstripe Bowl, which pits a Big East team against a Big 12 team. Mark Holtzman, who oversees college football at Yankee Stadium, said he has heard from about two-dozen teams who want to play there. University of Miami athletic director Kirby Hocutt, for instance, said his school has had significant discussions with the stadium to play in the next few years.</p>
<p>The New Meadowlands Stadium isn’t so pigeonholed into a time frame. But Dr. Gross, the Syracuse AD, said his plan is to have a new version of the Kickoff Classic, which was a staple of Giants Stadium until 2002. Syracuse’s Meadowlands games all occur in early September.</p>
<p>Dr. Gross’s ideal plan would be to play 10 games in the New York region over the next 20 years. The Penn State series is his ideal model, with one game at Penn State, one game in Syracuse and one in the Meadowlands. Mr. Schiano said he would like Rutgers to play one game a year at a big area venue, either as the home team or a road team. </p>
<p>But national teams will have an impact as well. If there’s anything that shows how diversified the market is, it is television ratings. Last September’s Notre Dame-Michigan matchup, between teams that didn’t go to a bowl game last season, was the highest-rated game in the area by far. It scored a 5.2 rating, according to Nielsen, ahead of USC and Ohio State’s 3.7 rating. That’s not to say locals can’t make an impact, as the biggest-ever ESPN college-football rating in New York was Rutgers’s 2006 game against Louisville.</p>
<p>The tightrope act in such a delicate market falls to the stadiums. The New Meadowlands chief executive, Mark Lamping, said that the right teams draw well in New York. Mr. Lamping said the stadium will schedule games that will attract at least 60,000 fans. Top-ranked teams in the old Kickoff Classic didn’t guarantee a packed house when they weren’t one of the typical draws like Notre Dame or Penn State.</p>
<p>Unlike Yankee Stadium, Mr. Lamping said the New Meadowlands Stadium isn’t pursuing a bowl game. Mr. Holtzman said he would like the Pinstripe Bowl to eventually become a BCS bowl and said the Yankees do everything at “warp speed.” BCS Executive Director Bill Hancock said the conferences are happy with the current contracts, which run for four more years.</p>
<p>So will we have answers to who rules New York in a few years? Dr. Gross says that no team can capture the city without having a large footprint, and then winning on a consistent basis.</p>
<p>“New York City is so dynamic that it’s an everything city, and there’s so much going on that the only way you’re going to capture the city is through winning. What we’re doing is setting up an apparatus to where, when we have success, we’ll have those inroads in New York City,” he said. </p>
<p>Those inroads are going to be crowded.</p>
<p>Source: [Will</a> College Football Sell in New York? - WSJ.com](<a href=“Will College Football Sell in New York? - WSJ”>Will College Football Sell in New York? - WSJ)</p>
<p>“Last September’s Notre Dame-Michigan matchup, between teams that didn’t go to a bowl game last season, was the highest-rated game in the area by far.”</p>
<p>I’d like to think that Michigan had at least a little something to do with that rating. Many thousands of New Yorkers for decades have attended U-M. Notre Dame does play USC every year, and yet this game beat it out for viewership in the Big Apple. Just another reason why USC, which isn’t as strong a draw as some in LaLa land would like you to think, should not consider going independent.</p>
<p>CBSSports | August 31, 2010 </p>
<p>Tony Barnhart dives deeper with additional clips of his interview with Jim Delany.</p>
<p>Jim Delany Interview </p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - Jim Delany Interview](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)</p>
<p>Conference Academic Comparison </p>
<p>(Based on USNWR 2011 Best Colleges)</p>
<p>*Ivy: Harvard 1, Princeton 2, Yale 3, Columbia 4, Penn 5, Darmouth 9, Brown 15, Cornell 15
Ave 54/8 = 6.8</p>
<p>*Big Ten: Chicago 9, Northwestern 12, Michigan 29, Wisconsin 45, Penn St 47, Illinois 47, Ohio St 56, Purdue 56, Minnesota 64, Iowa 72, Indiana 75, Michigan St 79
Ave 591/12 = 49.3
Ave 682/13 = 52.8 (w/ Nebraska)
Ave 582/11 = 52.9 (w/o Chicago & Nebraska)</p>
<p>*ACC: Duke 9, Virginia 25, Wake Forest 25, North carolina 30, Boston College 31, Georgia Tech 35, Miami 47, Maryland 56, Clemson 64, Virginia Tech 69, Florida St 104, NC State 111
Ave 606/12 = 50.5</p>
<p>*PAC 10: Stanford 5, Cal 22, usc 23, ucla 25, washington 41, oregon 111, wash st 111, arizona 120, oregon st 139, arizona st 143
Ave 740/10 = 74.0
Ave 955/12 = 79.6 (w/ Colorado & Utah)</p>
<p>*SEC: Vanderbilt 17, florida 53, georgia 56, alabama 79, auburn 85, tennessee 104, south carolina 111, lsu 124, kentucky 129, arkansas 132, ol miss 143, miss st 151
Ave 1184/12 = 98.7</p>
<p>*Big 12: Texas 45, Texas A&M 63, baylor 79, colorado 86, Iowa st 94, missouri 94, kansas 104, nebraska 104, oklahoma 111, kansas st 132, oklahoma st 132, texas tech 159
Ave 1203/12 = 100.3
Ave 1013/10 = 101.3 (w/o Colorado & Nebraska)</p>
<p>*Big East: Syracuse 55, Rutgers 64, Pitt 64, Uconn 69, Cincinnati 156, West virginia 176, louisville 176, S florida 183
Ave 943/8 = 117.9</p>
<p>Note: Many of the Big East schools are regionally ranked, so I only included those with a football team. ;p</p>
<p>P.S. I know I am missing a few Conferences, but I don’t have the time. Feel free to fill-in if you so wish. :)</p>
<p>Sparkeye,</p>
<p>Sorry, have to throw the flag on you and it is not a Terry Porter “replay $$$ in the head$$$” call.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Chicago’s original Stagg field is more famous for Fermi’s Chicago Pile #1. Don’t bring up the CIS, CIA, the CIB or whatever it is called, it is NOT the athletic conference and to keep bringing it up gives off an IMPRESSION of foolishness. Does Chicago play D1 football in the ATHLETIC conference? NO. Will they be playing D1 football in the ATHLETIC conference next year? NO. ALL of Chicago’s teams play in the University Athletic Association (UAA) ATHLETIC conference.</p></li>
<li><p>Has Nebraska signed to play in the ATHLETIC conference? YES. Will they be playing in the ATHLETIC conference next year? YES.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>True Score: 57.16 for the expanded Big 10 ATHLETIC conference. ACC ahead by an average of 5+ spots with over half the conference schools in the Top 50.</p>
<p>5 spots missed, 5 yard penalty. The ACC is the #1 Academic DI conference.</p>
<p>BaghDAD, are we talking academics or athletics? If we are refering to academics, then the CIC takes precedence and Chicago must be included by definition.</p>
<p>At any rate, even without Chicago, the undergraduate academic reputation average of the Big 10 is slightly higher than that of the ACC.</p>
<p>Big 10
Northwestern 89
Michigan 88
Wisconsin 81
Illinois 78
PSU 77
Purdue 77
Minnesota 76
OSU 75
Indiana 73
Iowa 73
MSU 70
Nebraska 65
AVERAGE: 76.8</p>
<p>ACC
Duke 90
UVa 86
Georgia Tech 84
UNC 84
Boston College 77
Wake Forest 75
Maryland 73
VTech 73
Clemson 69
Miami 68
NC State 66
Florida State 64
ACC 75.75</p>
<p>Either way, academically speaking, the ACC, Big 10 and Pac 10 are all very impresive.</p>
<p>@BaghDAD </p>
<p>History
The Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC) was established by the presidents of the Big Ten members in 1958 as the conference’s academic counterpart. An invitation extended to the University of Chicago, one of the founding members of the Big Ten who withdrew from the conference in 1946, was accepted. </p>
<p>Following its admittance to the Big Ten in 1990, the CIC invited Pennsylvania State University to join the consortium. The University of Nebraska–Lincoln, also an AAU member, will be joining the Big Ten on July 1, 2011. The CIC Provosts unanimously voted to extend CIC membership to UNL, which was accepted. It also will take effect July 1, 2011.</p>
<p>Source: [History</a> of CIC](<a href=“http://www.cic.net/Home/AboutCIC/CicHistory.aspx]History”>http://www.cic.net/Home/AboutCIC/CicHistory.aspx)</p>
<p>The Association of American Universities (AAU) is an organization of leading research universities devoted to maintaining a strong system of academic research and education. It consists of 63 universities in the United States (both public and private) and two universities in Canada.</p>
<p>AAU was founded in 1900 by a group of fourteen Ph.D.-granting universities in the United States to strengthen and standardize American doctoral programs. Today, the primary purpose of the AAU is to provide a forum for the development and implementation of institutional and national policies, in order to promote strong programs in academic research and scholarship and undergraduate, graduate, and professional education. </p>
<p>Admission
AAU membership is by invitation only, which requires an affirmative vote of three-fourths of current members. Invitations are considered periodically, based in part on an assessment of the breadth and quality of university programs of research and graduate education, as well as undergraduate education.</p>
<p>Source: [Association</a> of American Universities](<a href=“http://www.aau.edu/about/default.aspx?id=4020&linkidentifier=id&itemid=4020]Association”>http://www.aau.edu/about/default.aspx?id=4020&linkidentifier=id&itemid=4020)</p>
<p>UNL to become member of prestigious CIC
Lincoln, Neb., June 17th, 2010 </p>
<p>The University of Nebraska-Lincoln will join the Committee on Institutional Cooperation effective July 1, 2011, following a unanimous vote by the CIC provosts. </p>
<p>July 1, 2011, is the same day UNL will become a member of the Big Ten Conference. Following the Big Ten Council of Presidents/Chancellors approval of UNL joining the athletic conference, the CIC membership was referred to the CIC Provosts, who govern the CIC as a “board of the whole.” The CIC announced the unanimous vote of approval June 16. </p>
<p>The addition of UNL marks the CIC’s first expansion since Penn State University joined the consortium in July 1990. It increases CIC membership to 13 institutions, which includes the Big Ten Conference institutions and the University of Chicago. </p>
<p>“We welcome the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, a top-notch public research institution that shares the academic values, aspirations and challenges of the CIC member universities,” said Rodney Erickson, CIC chair and Penn State executive vice president and provost. “UNL, like all of the current CIC institutions, is a member of the Association of American Universities. UNL also has been recognized by the Carnegie Foundation as a Doctoral/Research Extensive University. We look forward to working with our colleagues at UNL in the years ahead.” </p>
<p>UNL Chancellor Harvey Perlman announced the approval June 15 in a late-day e-mail to all UNL faculty and staff. </p>
<p>“The Big Ten is a historically prestigious and stable academic community of scholars and students,” UNL Chancellor Harvey Perlman said. “The Big Ten, known for its athletic prowess, is highly regarded in academe for its track record of effective collaboration through the Committee on Institutional Cooperation. This makes sense for the future of our university. We are honored to be included in the CIC.” </p>
<p>Said CIC Director Barbara McFadden Allen, “This is an exciting time in higher education, and the CIC is moving fast on many fronts. We’re looking forward to working with the university leadership to weave Nebraska into our many initiatives, projects and programs.” </p>
<p>Perlman told faculty and staff that the CIC affiliation will bring many academic benefits to UNL. “Our full membership in the CIC begins July 1, 2011, however the CIC will be working with our academic leaders and faculty during the coming year to connect UNL with the resources and networks of the CIC,” Perlman said. He noted many UNL faculty have ties to the Big Ten and CIC schools already, including the approximately 302 UNL faculty members of all ranks who have received their highest degree is from a Big Ten institution, plus 13 more from the University of Chicago. “Approximately 30 percent of our tenure-line faculty earned their highest degree at a CIC institution,” he said. </p>
<p>The CIC is the nation’s premier higher education consortium of top-tier research institutions. Through collaboration CIC members save money, share assets, and increase teaching, learning and research opportunities. Founded in 1958, CIC members engage in voluntary, sustained partnerships such as library collections and access collaborations; technology collaborations to build capacity at reduced costs; purchasing and licensing collaborations through economies of scale; leadership and development programs for faculty and staff; programs that allow students to take courses at other institutions; and study-abroad collaborations. More information is at [CIC</a> Home Page](<a href=“http://www.cic.net%5DCIC”>http://www.cic.net). </p>
<p>Source: [UNL</a> | News Release | UNL to become member of prestigious CIC](<a href=“http://newsroom.unl.edu/releases/2010/06/17/UNL+to+become+member+of+prestigious+CIC]UNL”>UNL to become member of prestigious CIC | News Releases | University of Nebraska-Lincoln)</p>
<p>Alexandre,</p>
<p>Being a super moderator still does not excuse you from posting the source of your rankings. Sparkeye was using the USNWR…Like it or not it, is the most accepted ranking out there. The whole academic vs. athletic question is for Sparkeye to answer. Seems they even had trouble figuring it out, leaving Chicago out in one measure. If you really want to muddy it further (to meet an agenda), Big East fans will cry fowl over the non-inclusion of G’town and ND as they are conference members in all other sports.</p>
<p>In 1965, France left NATO’s integrated military command structure and withdrew all forces assigned to the alliance. What was NATO’s dominant reason for existence? A military alliance. Sure, some French diplomats stayed on in Brussels to “monitor,” but for intensive purposes, they were not “playing” against the Warsaw Pact. Chicago IS France, they don’t strap on the helmets in the Big 10 and the other conferences don’t consider them when judging the conferences football strength. AAU includes non-Big 10 members, so that is a non-starter. Why Sparkeye went there, who knows? </p>
<p>Using the KISS principle, let’s boil it down to the simple laymen’s question someone will ask while sitting and watching a game: What football playing BCS conference has the highest ranked schools academically, on average? To say anything but the ACC is a fallacy.</p>
<p>Wait, so if Chicago is France, is Hutchins de Gaulle?</p>
<p>BaghDAD,</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Well, your definition of “academic” apparently just means *college ranking". And if you know anything about college ranking, ACC is slightly ahead primarily because they are in more densely populated states/areas which bumps up their selectivity ranking because more people apply. Their Peer Assessment (aka academic reputation) scores are lower. For many people, academics include the faculty and research and Big Ten blows ACC out of the water in those two areas. Even Duke/UVA is way behind Wisconsin, Michigan, and Northwestern in AAS or NAE memberships.</p>
<p>I will give you that if we are going to rank athletic conference, Big Ten should not include Chicago. That said, what really matters is UChicago IS having close collaboration with other Big Ten schools, especially Northwestern and Illinois. That’s the <em>reality</em> and it matters more than whatever bragging rights you want on this forum.</p>
<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Ask Sparkeye7, he was the one who titled the original post as “Conference Academic Comparison.”</p>
<p>If you want to call it a ranking comparison, fine. The ACC blows the Big Ten away in class size and selectivity of student body, so we are right back to square one, depends on what you measure. </p>
<p>de Gaulle, in many people’s opinion was a pompous idiot, I don’t think Hutchins has been called that in anything I have read. However, de Gaulle did leave us with an all time (albeit sexist) gem: “The cemeteries of the the world are full of “irreplaceable” men.”</p>
<p>@BaghDAD</p>
<p>“The whole academic vs. athletic question is for Sparkeye to answer.”</p>
<p>“The Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC) was established by the presidents of the Big Ten members in 1958 as the conference’s academic counterpart.” </p>
<p>An opening statement written on the organization’s official website which to me is both ‘Simple and Clear’.</p>
<p>Source: <a href=“http://www.cic.net/Home/AboutCIC/CicHistory.aspx[/url]”>http://www.cic.net/Home/AboutCIC/CicHistory.aspx</a></p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - CIC BigTen Network Commercial](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)</p>
<p>“AAU includes non-Big 10 members, so that is a non-starter. Why Sparkeye went there, who knows?”</p>
<p>Big Ten is the ONLY Div-1 Conference (not Ivy League, not Pac-10, and certainly not ACC) in which ALL of its members are included in AAU.</p>
<p>P.S. I believe Alex’s numbers were taken from the 2011 USNWR Best Colleges as well - the newly formulated overall Academic Reputation Index (Score).</p>
<p>I wouldn’t call “ACC blows the Big Ten away” in selectivity (don’t bother to check class size). </p>
<p>75-th percentile SAT average:
Big Ten 1360
ACC 1383</p>
<p>I wouldn’t call 20 points on a 1600-pt scale a big difference.</p>
<p>“Well, your definition of “academic” apparently just means *college ranking”. And if you know anything about college ranking, ACC is slightly ahead primarily because they are in more densely populated states/areas which bumps up their selectivity ranking because more people apply."</p>
<p>The top schools in the ACC are for the most part far smaller than those in the B10 as well. For example UVA and UNC undergraduate numbers combined are comparable in size to Wisconsin all by itself. Michigan has as many undergraduate students as Duke, William and Mary, Wake Forest, and Miami combined. Just those two schools, and they are not even the largest universities in the conference, educate as many undergraduate students as SEVEN of the twelve conference members schools in the ACC.</p>
<p>@BaghDAD</p>
<p>"de Gaulle, in many people’s opinion was a pompous idiot, I don’t think Hutchins has been called that in anything I have read. However, de Gaulle did leave us with an all time (albeit sexist) gem: “The cemeteries of the the world are full of “irreplaceable” men.” "</p>
<p>Ohio State University-Main Campus Visit Report by BaghDAD</p>
<p>Visit to Ohio State University-Main Campus in October 2007 by BaghDAD
(HS Class of 2007) </p>
<p>[Ohio</a> State University-Main Campus - Videos, Photos, and Visit Reports](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/vibe/ohio-state-university-main-campus]Ohio”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/vibe/ohio-state-university-main-campus)</p>
<p>A TOSU hater?? Was that you? The ‘only’ extremely lopsided evaluation ever written about tOSU here on CC… @_@" I guess as a royal buckeye alumnus, I do reserve the right to not respond to you whenever you call me out from this point on. Go Bucks!!</p>
<p>Glad to see your a part of “reality” America Sparkeye! The America were any criticism make you a “HATER” of that which is criticized, be it a person, institution, etc. I stand behind my visit comments…You were not there and I have served 25 plus years in the profession of insuring we all have the right to freely speak as guaranteed by the Supreme Law of the Land. So no matter what how you try to intimidate, YOUR ROYAL BUCKEYE _____ doesn’t scare me on bit. If you think you were called out, that is your problem.</p>