Big Ten Expansion - Phase II

<p>Simply put, both teams are pretty evenly matched with Michigan edges Notre Dame in terms of QB play. So, I’d have to say Michigan beats Notre Dame by a FG or a TD. With that said, here is a fun video between Michigan QB Denard Robinson and Tate Forcier:</p>

<p>[YouTube</a> - Denard Robinson and Tate Forcier](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)</p>

<p>“And when is the administration at Michigan going to give Rodriguez the heave ho?”</p>

<p>Another losing season at Michigan would get Rich Rod out of the door; however, he is most likely to stay for another year.</p>

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<p>Villanova football considering joining Big East</p>

<p>By MIKE KERN
September 10, 2010 </p>

<p>IF VILLANOVA WANTS its football program to move up from the Football Championship Subdivision level to join the Big East, all the university has to do is say yes.</p>

<p>The Daily News has learned that the Big East, one of six BCS conferences, has asked the Wildcats to make the jump.</p>

<p>And the school is officially considering the offer.</p>

<p>“The Big East very recently communicated its interest in adding Villanova as a football member,” Villanova athletic director Vince Nicastro told the Daily News yesterday. "As a result, we have decided to embark on an in-depth evaluation of this opportunity.</p>

<p>“As you might suspect, this is a complex issue, which entails many dimensions - both quantitative and qualitative. While we will move forward on this as quickly as possible, it is critical that all of those dimensions are vetted thoroughly prior to making any final decision.”</p>

<p>The Big East, through a spokesperson, opted not to comment. But conference sources confirmed Nicastro’s statement. Sources added that while no formal proposal has been made, if Villanova says yes, it will become a reality.</p>

<p>Villanova, which has informally looked at the many factors involved for about a year, will now officially start the due-diligence process.</p>

<p>No timetable for a decision has been set. Sources said that in a best-case scenario, the Big East would like to have an answer by the end of the year. The conference presidents hold their annual meeting in November, and aren’t scheduled to meet again until March. The Big Ten has its meetings in December, at which point it is expected to discuss additional expansion. The names of Big East teams reportedly have come up in past talks about the Big Ten.</p>

<p>From Villanova’s standpoint, the discussion next proceeds to a committee composed of Board of Trustees members. The committee will conduct a study and present a recommendation to that 32-member governing body before a vote is taken. Whether that can be done by the end of the year remains unclear.</p>

<p>The Big East would like, for practical purposes, to add a ninth football team. Having eight teams means each team must schedule five nonconference games, which isn’t always easy. And four of them play only three conference home games each season. Again, not preferable.</p>

<p>Villanova, which won its first FCS national football championship last year and is ranked No. 2 this season, following last week’s 31-24 loss to Temple, has been a Big East member for every other sport since 1980-81, the conference’s second year of existence.</p>

<p>'Nova played football at what was then called the Division I-A level until 1980, before the program was disbanded. It resurfaced 5 years later at I-AA. In 1997, Villanova and Connecticut were given the opening to join the Big East for football. Villanova turned it down, but UConn accepted. The biggest considerations for declining at that time were the increased financial commitment and lack of an adequate on-campus facility.</p>

<p>Maybe the times have changed. College athletics certainly have changed, with many schools switching conferences.</p>

<p>“I do think people are much more aware, especially of what happened this summer, of the changing landscape of college athletics, than they were 15 years ago,” Nicastro said. "They sort of knew it was out there, but now it’s real. Conferences are realigning, schools that have traditionally been in conferences for many, many years have shifted affiliations. Things nobody thought would happen have happened.</p>

<p>“And the conventional wisdom is they’ll continue to happen.”</p>

<p>If Villanova elects to move up, it likely would play one more season at FCS, followed by a mandatory 2-year provisional period. So the Wildcats wouldn’t gain full-time status in the larger Football Bowl Subdivision until 2014.</p>

<p>Where Villanova would play is an issue. Temple calls Lincoln Financial Field home. Sources said that makes it unlikely Villanova also would play there. Villanova Stadium has a capacity of 12,000, and the prospect of enlarging it apparently is not feasible. The NCAA requires 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home games for FBS schools. The attendance requirement must be met in 1 year over a 2-year period.</p>

<p>A viable venue is the new PPL Park in Chester, which holds 18,500 for Union soccer games. And there is room for a few thousand portable seats, as well as a potential for more permanent additions.</p>

<p>Other possibilities could include Franklin Field, and maybe even Citizens Bank Park (at least in November), now that Yankee Stadium and Wrigley Field are being used for college football.</p>

<p>Temple was a football-only member of the Big East from 1991 until the conference ended the affiliation after the 2004 season.</p>

<p>The Owls, who are in the Atlantic 10 for all other sports, have played football in the Mid-American Conference since 2007.</p>

<p>To compete on a higher level, Villanova knows it would have to upgrade its infrastructure (weight rooms, practice fields, etc.). It also would need to fund 22 more football scholarships, and as many additional women’s scholarships to comply with Title IX. The opportunities to increase revenue also would be much greater.</p>

<p>To help offset Villanova’s transition costs, sources said one way the Big East could help is to schedule home games against the Wildcats that would include guaranteed payouts.</p>

<p>Villanova’s basketball program is part of the equation regarding the football decision.</p>

<p>If the Big East football schools ever went their separate ways, as many have projected, that would leave the Wildcats in the non-football half of the 16-team conference. That means Villanova would lose basketball opponents Connecticut , Syracuse, Rutgers, Pittsburgh, West Virginia , Louisville, Cincinnati and South Florida.</p>

<p>With Villanova’s renewed national basketball profile, it would be important for the school to protect its brand and the football program could help.</p>

<p>The process to decide whether to play big-time football figures to be complicated for Villanova. At the same time, it could be a simple yes or no. Either way, the ramifications could be profound.</p>

<p>Source: <a href=“http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20100910_BIG_UPS_.html[/url]”>Villanova football considering joining Big East;

<p>To All,</p>

<p>With this post, I would like to announce my intention to follow Hawkette’s footstep in taking a step back and redirecting more energy & attention to my demanding career… </p>

<p>I hope I’ve not embarrassed my alma maters in any way the last 2 years. If I did, just so you all know that I DO NOT represent any of the schools that I attended. In addition, sincere apologies are extended also to those whom I have offended through my posts either intentional or unintentionally. Hmm… I guess all good things do come to an end. It has been a privilege to be able to communicate and perhaps befriended with some of you. I am also very grateful for the opportunity to be able to learn from, participate in and exchange ideas with many of you who are extremely resourceful, bright and intelligent. Unfortunately, for now, I will have to refrain myself from further posting due to my busy schedule. Hopefully, if time permits in the future, I shall stop-by from time to time during some of the ‘major events’ here on CC; otherwise, I will most likely remain as a lurker from afar as I’ve done so in the past.</p>

<p>Once again, thank you all for the wonderful memories, and for putting up with my broken English!! ;p</p>

<p>Best of Luck!!</p>

<p>-Sparkeye7 :)</p>

<p>“You will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You.” - Isaiah 26:3</p>

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<p>Don’t forget that this is also due to the ACC having 4 private schools as opposed to 1 for the B10, as well as the publics in the ACC, on avg., being quite a bit smaller than the those in the B10.</p>

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<p>I, also, thought that UNL was the next best option after ND or UT (definitely better than Mizzou).</p>

<p>As for RU, Pitt, 'Cuse, KU or Mizzou - they all have significant weaknesses; I really can’t see the B10 expanding any further unless ND changes their mind or what remains of the B12 blows up (which we likely aren’t going to see anytime soon).</p>

<p>To All,</p>

<p>With this post, I would like to announce my intention to follow Hawkette’s footstep in taking a step back and redirecting more energy & attention to my demanding career… </p>

<p>Bit of advice if your still checking the boards, Sparky. If a client offers criticism, don’t go down the 13 year old using twitter route and call them a “Hater.”
Might save you a client or the ability to chew your food.</p>

<p>No embarrassment of one of your alma mater’s, just confirmation.</p>

<p>@BaghDAD,</p>

<p>I am glad to know that you have read all that I wrote!
In short, thank you very much for the advice!! </p>

<p>P.S. For those who had PM me in the last few days, I promise that I will respond to you all over the weekend perhaps when I am more free. Thanks for the patience! :)</p>

<p>Sleep well, Sparkeye.</p>

<p>^^Thanks, LakeWashington!!! </p>

<p>I owe it to my patients and this Saturday’s Big Game!! </p>

<p>Go State!!! lol</p>

<p>What’s the deal with the BE offering Villanova an invitation?</p>

<p>I get it, if they accept and become the 9th team it will balance out the schedule…but why them?</p>

<p>I guess they just don’t want to throw off the balance in the basketball side, so offering an invitation to a team “in the family” makes some sense, but they have nothing to offer. I doubt the could ever get to the required levels, and before anyone says “Uconn did it”, well that’s different. Uconn is a large public university and had potential to build up it’s program, Villanova doesn’t. It’s a small private school, no public funding who can barely fill their current 12,000 seat stadium and won’t be able to build new facilities.</p>

<p>The BE should have went after ECU or Memphis - not a big UCFer, I think one Florida schools is enough.</p>

<p>My out of the box idea was to see if Umass would be interesting in upping their program, which woud be a similiar situation to Uconn - plus, it’s another great market.</p>

<p>Either way, no real good options for the BE, perhaps ask Temple if they want to come back. </p>

<p>There are no real viable teams that they could add who already are competitive.</p>

<p>Lloyd Carr makes a prediction: Notre Dame will join Big Ten</p>

<p>Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News
September 29. 2010 11:32AM </p>

<p>Former Michigan coach Lloyd Carr doesn’t believe Big Ten expansion is over, and he thinks long-time football independent Notre Dame eventually will become a member. </p>

<p>Carr, who retired after 13 seasons as head coach following the 2007 season, spoke to the Montgomery (Ala.) Quarterback Club on Tuesday night. He told the group that the college football landscape has not stopped evolving.</p>

<p>“There are lots of changes ahead,” Carr said at the Club, according to the Montgomery Advertiser’s Wednesday website. “I’ll give you one prediction and this is just a personal prediction, but I think Notre Dame is going to come to the Big Ten.” </p>

<p>The Big Ten expanded to 12 teams this summer with the addition of Nebraska. Carr said he believes the conference will bulge to 16 teams. </p>

<p>“The Big 12 loses Colorado (to the Pac-10) and Nebraska, so you know something is going to happen there,” Carr said. “I think we’re entering a new era of expansion. What we saw last year, I just think (expansion) is not over.” </p>

<p>Notre Dame rejected an offer to join the Big Ten in 1999, and most recently Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany said he expects the Irish to remain an independent. Carr suggested to the Club that continuing expansion will make joining a conference more appealing to Notre Dame. </p>

<p>“The way college football is evolving,” said Carr, “I think there is going to be great pressure on Notre Dame (to join a conference) if they want to be a factor in the national picture going forward.” </p>

<p>Source: [Lloyd</a> Carr makes a prediction: Notre Dame will join Big Ten | detnews.com | The Detroit News](<a href=“Detroit Local News - Michigan News - Breaking News - detroitnews.com”>Detroit Local News - Michigan News - Breaking News - detroitnews.com)</p>

<p>^ Or, you could end up eventually with a bunch of independents for football… BYU, Notre Dame, Texas, USC. In other words strong football schools that are able to carve out their own network and keep the money all to themselves.</p>

<p>^^Don’t kid yourself UCB. Only ND is strong enough to get away with being a big time independent. USC, Texas, and BYU do not have a strong enough national following from coast to coast.</p>

<p>^ BYU is a different animal.</p>

<p>BYU actually does have a rather large nationwide following, as Mormon’s live everywhere. The real reason BYU is able to pull this off is because the Church of Latter Day Saints has it’s own TV network, which will show every BYU football game nationwide. They have BYU TV, but I’m not sure how exactly it works.</p>

<p>However, BYU won’t get the same AQ deal that ND gets, so they are basically sacrificing a chance to play in the national championship game, which doesn’t matter because they can’t do that now playing in the MWC.</p>

<p>6 million Mormons do not equal 68 million catholics…However, I see your point. I do not see how BYU will ever again be a major player, big time independent, with the current BCS setup.</p>

<p>Oh boy! The Church of Latter Day Saints network. Where do I sign up.</p>

<p>The ACC is academically superior, but they are horrible at football. lol. Basketball only conference.</p>

<p>^^^How so? The B10 educates many more people than most of the smallish ACC schools.</p>

<p>Being a diploma factory has nothing to do with arguments about who is academically superior. The two are virtually tied in quality and clearly a step above every other conference who has at least a couple tier 3 schools.</p>

<p>It looks like Big Ten expansion is probably going to stop at 12 for the foreseeable future based on what I’ve heard from the various president’s.</p>

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*Based on USNWR rankings…which include a lot of factors that don’t really count toward being considered “academically superior”.</p>

<p>US News is how we rank schools academically, whether state schools like it or not.</p>