Black at a school with very few other african americans

<p>There’s a difference between being whitewashed and behaving like an educated individual imo.</p>

<p>No offense, but some of these posts make it seem like black girls are desperate to date white guys and that’s not the case (at least not with me and my black female friends).</p>

<p>Desperate? No.
There is, imo, a distinct shortage of available black men.</p>

<p>One must have options.</p>

<p>“One must have options.”</p>

<p>I agree, I date interracially myself.</p>

<p>I suppose that’s good? :&lt;/p>

<p>Interestingly enough, though I encourage looking, ahem, elsewhere for a romantic partner, I’m terrified of doing so myself. I mean, I can see my male counterparts seemingly free of any apprehensions concerning interracial dating…but…I dunno.</p>

<p>This mirrors my life so much it’s sad :(</p>

<p>No big deal, you live</p>

<p>Collectivism is where you clump a “group” of people and make assumptions about them based off their collective identity.</p>

<p>For example, one is not afraid of a black gang member with a gun pointed at your head, because they are black. One is afraid of them, because they are a gang member with a gun pointed at your head. One is not afraid of a white gang member with a gun at your head because they are white. You are afraid of them, because they are a gang member with a gun pointed at your head.</p>

<p>By even talking about different groups, your being a racist, because your collectively grouping people and making assumptions about individuals based off of collective group assumptions. Your saying black people act a certain way because they are black… or white people act a certain way because they are white. This is racist, because your neglecting the fact that there are so many millions of individual people that it is impossible to make collective assumptions about groups of people.</p>

<p>Martin Luther King famously said that he dreams of a day where his kids will be judged based off the content of their character and not the color of their skin.</p>

<p>So why make school decisions based off of collective assumptions you have created in your mind? How about going to school with other humans and look for schools with students who have strong characters and not arbitrary factors like color of people’s skin?</p>

<p>The difference between and a white and black person is so small that it is insignificant. </p>

<p>We are all individual humans and should we should all look at each other as individuals and not a collective group.</p>

<p>Collectivism = racism</p>

<p>@GoToCC</p>

<p>Lollllll, I’m not racist against my own race. Lets go to school for a bit. Being racist is believing one race is superior to another. When did I ever say that? Exactly. I didn’t. I’m being factual. There is a group of african americans that behave embarrassingly. And there are white, Asian, and Hispanic people who behave embarrassingly. It’s not just one race and not an entire race. I’m saying I want to go to a college where that population is as small as possible. When this happens, the college tends to be over 50% white. Therefore, I will be attending a college where the majority is white and I’m black. There’s nothing bad about that. I like all races. Most of my friends are non black though. The only thing I was worried about is I wanted to meet a diverse group of people at my university and I know that being at a school with mostly white people can complicate dating. Not being racist but its the truth. Lets not beat around the bush. I don’t know how what I said came off as racist to you…</p>

<p>GoToCC, it’s silly and counterproductive to think, for example, that there’s no such thing as African-American culture and that African-Americans don’t IN GENERAL have certain things in common. Making “assumptions” isn’t always bad; for example, most blacks have similar socioeconomic situations. I’m black too, but I grew up not only in a white community, but in a completely white family, and so I know that if I went to school at an HBU I would probably feel out of place to some extent. Yes, it’s great to go these moralizing diatribes about how we’re all equal and blah blah blah but the truth is that that’s not how it works in this country, and that there’s a very large degree of self-segregation.</p>

<p>And the difference between races in the U.S. is no where close to being “insignificant,” as you state.</p>

<p>Martin Luther King Jr. didn’t say “I have a dream when one day my kids will be judged on the content of their character and not on the color of their skin unless it benefits them or is somehow positive.”</p>

<p>Nobody has the choice who they are born as. There isn’t a screen where you can chose who you become. You just become it.</p>

<p>Clumping people as a group and making assumptions based on their collective identity leads to racism. </p>

<p>Judge people on the content of their character and not their skin color. Racism is not just speaking negatively on people. Its when you make assumptions about people based off of their skin color when you don’t even know them.</p>

<p>You have no idea who your going to meet at your future college. You have no idea what black, white, or anybody else is going to be like at your school. By assuming dating will be easier one group or another, before you ever meet them, you are judging people based off the color of their skin and not the content of their character… aka collectivism = racism. </p>

<p>Here’s a quote I am purposely not citing because it will detract from the content of the quote:
"Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.</p>

<p>Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men.</p>

<p>Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination."</p>

<p>I’m not trying to start a ****ing match on the internet, and I hope everyone here ends up at a great college. I hope you all find environments your comfortable with. I truly mean that.</p>

<p>I just find frustrating when people are RACIST by collectively clumping groups of people together and making assumptions based off of groups of people like they are numbers on a piece of paper that can just be known without ever meeting them. Your saying you will be uncomfortable around certain groups that you have never met before based only on their groups.</p>

<p>By saying you want more black people, you are also saying you want fewer white people which is racist.</p>

<p>“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”- MLK</p>

<p>“Yes, it’s great to go these moralizing diatribes about how we’re all equal and blah blah blah but the truth is that that’s not how it works in this country, and that there’s a very large degree of self-segregation.” Its a never ending cycle that gets perpetrated by all involved parties. Sadly your correct, but we can end it once we accept each other as humans and not groups.</p>

<p>If we want to end racism, stop looking at people as groups and start looking at people as individuals.</p>

<p>Can you leave pls?</p>

<p>@GoToCC</p>

<p>Two things:

  1. MLK jr is not God. Therefore I don’t have to follow his quotes as law in my opinion so stop throwing those at me. </p>

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<li>If you think this is racism, which its not, then this “racism” is beneficial, commonly used by all races including blacks, and should AND will stay. </li>
</ol>

<p>Now please leave my thread. Your presence is unwanted. Kthanksbye.</p>

<p>Ok. </p>

<p>Well I thought GoToCC would only comment once, but apparently that didn’t happen. I’m going to throw some of my thoughts in here. </p>

<p>GoToCC states collectivism=racism</p>

<p>Let us look at these definitions:
Collectivism - Noun
The practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.
The theory and practice of the ownership of land and the means of production by the people or the state.</p>

<p>Racism - Noun
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as…
Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.</p>

<p>The definitions don’t quite fit in the area of what we’re saying, but lets say that collectivism equals racism. </p>

<p>Is there a good and bad of racism? Is there a type of racism that is beneficial compared to another one? Is there a subset of racism that is highly accepted and has proved it’s worth? Oh, yeah! Search it on google. There’s tons. </p>

<p>Not all racism is burning crosses and segregation. I’m being blunt, but I just wanted to put this out there. The “racism” or “collectivism” or “generalization” or “categorizism” or (see how many acts there are that group people together?) that we are taking part is a very subtle one that has no negative impact against racial equality. The very racial equality that the Mr. Martin Luther King you like to bring up fought for. </p>

<p>A person has the freedom to choose where they go. A person has the freedom to choose what type of people they are around. They can do whatever, hang out wherever with whoever…as long as they are tolerant. Seems pretty fair to me. </p>

<p>This is where our discussion comes in. We are not saying we don’t like black people. If we did please quote it and show me. We are not saying we don’t like being around black people. If we did please quote it and show me. We are simply using our past experiences to make an educated guess on where we would be comfortable. There is nothing wrong with that. </p>

<p>In our discussion, we are not grouping an entire population to one definition. We are not saying that all historically black colleges are filled with poverty stricken African Americans that have no care for education. (Really, we never said anything close to that…). We are merely weighing the odds of certain populations, within a group, that in the past we were not as comfortable in or not as accepted. </p>

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If talking about different races is being racist then the entire country is racist. The entire world is racist, but you made a mistake. We are not making assumptions, we’re going off of pad experiences. </p>

<p>

Eh…no. If I did judge someone that acted sterotypically black and he or she happened to be black, it would be due to his or her socioeconomic background and culture, not from there skin color. </p>

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You might be in denial. We’re not assuming. We’ve lived it. We’re experiencing it. I’ve heard it come out of so many people’s mouth. How a black girls acts. Reacts. Dresses. Talks. I can go on and on. Saying that dating is equal for all races is unwise and foolish. </p>

<p>You know I’m not even going to continue speaking my mind on your stances because you, GoToCC, overuse the word racism. I picked a seat that a white just happened be sitting next to. I must be racist. I go to a school that is 60%+ white. Must be racist. I like Hispanic and white guys but not black guys. I must be racist because that means I’m discriminating against blacks guys. These are just examples, but come on. </p>

<p>How about we just not use the word racism or any form of it. It has such a negative stigma. Clearly I have brought up other words that do the same thing. Collectivism. Generalization. And many more!</p>

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No, if you didn’t want things to turn out this way then you wouldn’t have used this thread to hash out your anti-racism sentiments when people weren’t being racist.</p>

<p>GoToCC, I sincerely think it’s great that you in your personal life strive to judge people by the “content of their character and not the color of their skin,” and of course, in an ideal society, all people would truly aim to see past petty things like race. But that’s not the world we live in. </p>

<p>Like I said earlier, the experience of the average black American is very different from the experience of the average white American. Most white Americans just do not know what it is to be an ethnic minority in the U.S. They CAN’T know. Like I was saying, my parents are white, and in school when I felt uncomfortable because people were constantly teasing me because of my skin color, they would simply tell me to stop complaining or being sensitive, to “get over it,” to “not make everything about race.” Obviously the ability to pick up and move on from unpleasant situations is an important skill, but their response shows that they by definition have no way of understanding what it means to be a black male.</p>

<p>I go to a large public university, and even here, I’ve dealt with situations where I felt out of place because of the color of my skin, including a crazy verbal attack last year and many milder incidents. And as one of the only black people in all of my classes, I sometimes feel like there is no one with whom I can talk that “knows what it’s like.” Does that make me a racist? I don’t know-- ask my white parents, brother, grandma, aunt, uncle, etc. </p>

<p>So we can pretend all we want that race doesn’t matter and that we live in a “post-racial” society, but it’s precisely that kind of thinking that helps perpetuate systemic racism.</p>

<p>But, guys, we have a black president.
Obv racism no longer exists. </p>

<p>It’s clear that any member of the minority seeks diversity only because he or she is racist.
<em>eyeroll</em></p>

<p>tarheel,</p>

<p>My school is 4% black. I am not black but I do not really think it is weird for someone to be the only black person in a class. Maybe depending on the black person, he or she may feel uncomfortable depending on how he or she reacts to the situation. You appear to be better equipped to handle being a small minority. </p>

<p>I do notice, however, that a lot of black people on campus like to stick together. A black person on my school’s campus is more likely to be walking with another black person than a non-black person. I am not entirely sure why this is or if it is something of concern. If this is because they are being treated poorly by non-black students then that is a concern. </p>

<p>If you attend a school that doesn’t have many black people, you can still meet a ton of black people by joining black organizations. This would even to some degree help your dating issues of trying to find a black guy if that is what you want, though you seem to be content with other races too. </p>

<p>I am currently in 3 black organizations at my school even though I’m white. There’s roughly 100 people in each of them and they are 95% black. I would say that the black students in black organizations (at least at my school) are the smarter black students at my school. They are also extremely nice, especially to all of the members in the organizations. I would say I have made 40+ good (black) friends this semester already so I don’t see how it would possibly be hard to make black friends if you just join some black organizations.</p>

<p>the hell just happen with that large paragraph. Anyway dont make it a big deal,all i know is to be friendly and stuff just works out.</p>

<p>Well, you’ve said you wanted to attend UNC, and according to this <a href=“http://oira.unc.edu/first-time-freshman-class-profile-fall.html”>Accreditation | OIRA, UNC is about 8% African-American, so I am pretty sure you will not feel out of the loop.</p>

<p>What large paragraph? Large post? Large response? Large commentary? I don’t see a long paragraph anywhere.</p>