<p>haha okay, whatever zantedeschia. why dont we change this thread to a discussion on how kids who go to private schools think they are so much better then public school kids just because your parents are rich. i go to a public school, but not becasue my parents can't afford a private school...i really thought I would get a better education at my city's public school. out of a class of 700 there were 45 national merit semi-finalists/finalists and about 50 commended. also there are about 21 kids in my class who got a 36 on the ACT, and my school's average hovers around 30 every year. 11 ppl got into stanford early, 3 into yale 4 into pton at least 1 into harvard, about 5 into penn etc...so yeah, im done venting i guess.</p>
<p>i donno when the whole public v private thing came up
but public is better
we win state in everything, there are so many people, 300+ clubs, good teachers, opportunities abound...but there are still 2 private schools in the town. if the smarter people actually go to private schools, they would have put them somewhere else. we use the privates as a place for the kids flunking out of our public!
haha but yeah i really dont care about which school anyone goes to, what difference does it make (except you've already paid for 4 years of school!)?</p>
<p>that 300 clubs statistic looks suspiciously high, but i know ive seen that number</p>
<p>i really thought I would get a better education at my city's public school. out of a class of 700 there were 45 national merit semi-finalists/finalists and about 50 commended. also there are about 21 kids in my class who got a 36 on the ACT, and my school's average hovers around 30 every year. 11 ppl got into stanford early, 3 into yale 4 into pton at least 1 into harvard, about 5 into penn etc...so yeah, im done venting i guess.</p>
<p>...you apparently live in a very affluent area if those are the stats for a public school.</p>
<p>my school</p>
<p>1 cornell early</p>
<p>...yea that'll pretty much do it.</p>
<p>i think our sat avg was 1350 or something-pretty solid since that means 525 kids got above that</p>
<p>lots of public schools are just as good as private. when you live in nyc like me and zante, and you dont want to go to a school of 1,000+ ppl per grade, you have to shell out 25,000 for a quality education. no need to get mad at her for simply stating the truth...</p>
<p>exactly. Its not just in the US. Its the similar situation in other countries. I lived in norway for 15 years, and the public schools were hopeless, even though the class size was abt 150 per grade level. The int'l school there cost about $25K, and the difference in quality of education is tremendous. On avg 3-5 norwegians go to ivies across the whole country per year. Maybe its because the whole population is just 4 mill, but that figure is still terribly low. From the private school, its about 4-5 in a class of 50.</p>
<p>Here in Korea, its the same thing. 25K for a non-korean education. For intls who live in foreign countries, the money that has to be shelled out for a decent education is crazy. But then again, most of the koreans who get admitted are from some elite academy that does not accept foreigners. I guess the need for a private school ed depends on the situation. </p>
<p>Btw, Im not used to US private school ed, but do most of them cost 25K?</p>
<p>Well you're lucky to have a good public school Sean, but NYC is notorious for horrible public schools so it's not like I chose to go to a private school because I'm prententious and rich and needed a way to flaunt it. I did go to public school for many years and I know how horrible it felt to be denied the opportunity to learn and explore and challenge yourself. </p>
<p>Going to private school was possibly the best thing that I could have done because I have learned so much and felt really stimulated. And I don't think all private school kids are pretentious. If anything, public school kids hate private school ones more than the other way around. </p>
<p>And also, not all people who go to private school are rich. There are plenty of people on financial aid in my school.</p>
<p>Thanks for defending me, Filmxoxo</p>
<p>i defent u too zant! all the way! ur fellow asians got ur back =P</p>
<p>lol thanks shrek
<3</p>
<p>oh and laurensmom, way to act like a mature adult by insulting us. </p>
<p>My intention was never to denigrate public schools. Originally my point was that I am kind of sickened by the number of ivy league acceptances at my school. And to be honest, you can't compare public and private schools, especially by the numbers, since class sizes are so different. </p>
<p>Obviously people on cc are all very talented and qualified, I don't see why people need to get insecure.</p>
<p>I go to a public school and it's horribly slow.</p>
<p>However, if someone's paying a great deal of money to attend a private school every year, then I'll be damned if they don't have a great slew of Ivy acceptances. If you're paying that kind of money you'd demand a great education and some opportunity to explore, which in turn contribute to your strength as an applicant I suppose. This is why I kinda like holistic evaluation though. </p>
<p>I don't like the concept of people "buying" their intelligence. I know a few people who go to private schools and think they are so superior to me just because of their school. However, an hour or two spent on the internet can be just as effective if you know what you're doing. In short, the school won't make your intellectual foundation any stronger necessarily, but it will perhaps boost your work ethic, knowledge, and pace.</p>
<p>I refuse to believe that you can learn everything you want/need to learn from "an hour or two on the internet" if that's what you're implying, legend. If that's the case, why would anyone go to school?</p>
<p>*I will elaborate on AIM lol</p>
<p>And I apologize if I sounded pretentious or offended anyone.</p>
<p>zantedeschia says: it's not really bragging, it's just demonstrating that we get what we paid for...you can't really expect a $27K/year education to be on the same level as a public school.</p>
<p>zantedeschia also says: Beat you, Finnjav...
ED/EA:
3 Princeton
5 Columbia
2 Cornell
0 Dartmouth
2 Brown
3 Yale
6 Harvard
5 UPenn
I think I've already said this but something like 23% of my class got into an ivy early. </p>
<p>I fail to see how either of the above comments from the op are anything other than condescending or pretentious. I know of many private schools that are lacking academically, so it is a fairly 'simple' analysis reflected in the statement that public schools could not be expected to be on the same level as private schools. Of course, since posting the above, the op has qualified his/her statements by stating they were referring the NYC public schools not public schools in general. I will defer to a New Yorker as to whether that statement is also a generalization.</p>
<p>My point, since it was lost on the op, is this. Success in life depends on many things. Good education, drive to achieve and good social skills are a few of those things. A prestigious diploma and drive will take you far in life but only if you don't forget to bring along those social skills.</p>
<p>Ommmmmmmmm</p>
<p>It was immature of me to take the bait...obviously I wasn't the first one to start tallying up ivy acceptances...</p>
<p>In any case, sorry for the confusion but I have never said anything about public schools outside of nyc since I don't know anything about them. My comparisons were purely between inner city public schools and college prep schools, and I doubt many will disagree with my generalizations about them.</p>
<p>i agree with zante on this one, i don't see anything offensive in that section laurensmom posted. i saw the second section as purely friendly banter, not an attempt to start up a public school v. private school thing. laurensmom also failed to post the "scary" that zante put after the last sentence, which makes the comment more of a joke and less of a brag. </p>
<p>the first comment didn't seem to bash public school, and i see its relevance in that if your paying a sum of money to attend a school, you'd hope that it would provide you with some kind of advantage (and by this i don't mean a prestigious diploma). I also go to a private school mainly because i live in an area where the public schools are not as good and i want a more personal, active education. if i lived somewhere else in california, such as the OC, where their funding is much larger due to the wealth of the people in that area, thus making their schools better, i might go to public school. </p>
<p>in the end, i think we should all chill and see the numbers for the truth of their content, that often private schools have higher acceptance rates to top colleges than public schools, for many reasons. but this in no way reflects either negatively or positively on the character of the individuals at these schools.</p>
<p>Seriously. All of us here who know zante know she's not like that. This thread was simply a comparison thread, one of the 5 bajillion CC has every day. I definitely don't disagree with her that often times you can receive a better education at a private versus a public school, simply because of the smaller student-to-teacher ratio and more liberal (in terms of restrictions) curriculum. Private schools have higher acceptance rates to the top schools, just as pegdiver said. And that's okay. That doesn't make people who attend public schools "less educated" than others, just that they may not have been encouraged as much as those at private schools to go the top 25 route. I know that's the cause at my (public) school.</p>
<p>So yeah, chill on flamin' zantedeschia. Or else she'll suffocate you with her post count ;)</p>